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    Default Spyder problem, no help in manual

    Well, after all these years of trouble free RT spyders (12 Limited, 13 Basic and now 14 RT-S) i finally run into a problem that has not been discussed on this forum, let me explain

    1 got dressed and walked out to my Spyder, turned the key on and waited for the computer to do it's thing, 12 seconds or so later it says "before operating read safety message then press mode button"

    Now i intend to stay within my warranty guidelines and don't want to get in trouble so................. i reach up for the safety card and it is stuck, it will not come out.


    ANY SUGGESTIONS?????????????????? PLEASE HELP.

    so embarrassed by this situation that i won't even sign my name so you won't know who this is


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    I would report this to the NHTSA,Carlos an Rattigan Roger ASAP!!!!

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    Oh my goodness!! what a horrible thing to have happen to you!!! What are you going to do ?? If you don't read the safety instruction you can't ride!

    Seems to me that BRP should replace your Spyder IMMEDIATELY!!

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    What's a safety card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindman View Post
    Oh my goodness!! what a horrible thing to have happen to you!!! What are you going to do ?? If you don't read the safety instruction you can't ride!

    Seems to me that BRP should replace your Spyder IMMEDIATELY!!

    My thoughts exactly
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    That is serious trouble indeed Joe. Here's what I would do, go to the manual, on page 108 is the safety message. Find some good sharp scissors, cut it out a
    nd then duck tape it to the glove box door, on the outside of course where you can read at any time Then take a picture and send it to BRP so they can add it to the file they have on you.
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    Warranty flat rate to "unstick" the safety card pays 1.5 hrs.
    Sold my 14 RTS went back to 2 wheels.
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    Default Ohhhh, you're good!

    Quote Originally Posted by NovaSpyder View Post
    That is serious trouble indeed Joe..

    How'd you know it was Joe? The original poster was Anonymous.
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    Not reading the safety card will NOT void the warranty. However, the card retainer has a micro switch which when opened, counts the number of times the safety card is read before start. This goes in to the BUDS under safety card activation. After 250 starts without reading the card, the BUDS goes in to safety lockdown sequencing. There is no code for this available to the owner. The machine must then be towed to the dealer. The dealer must have a current BUDS program for unlocking the sequencer, resetting the counter and updating the ECM. Please note that once the system is reset the number of starts is reduced to 200 when the sequencer locks the system again. Currently there is only one dealer who has this program from BRP. They can't use it because their AST computer is down and their BRP tech only works on Tuesday and Thursday. Monday, Wednesday and Friday he shovels coal at the mine.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperman View Post
    How'd you know it was Joe? The original poster was Anonymous.

    Well I was just guessing, Joe was easy to spell, but it could be Bob I suppose or Engelbert....
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    Default Here's what you do..!!

    remove windshield and brackets, headlights, instrument cluster, mirriors, handlebars and gps...pop cover and flip card over, read and proceed to start. Reassemble and ryde like the wind.... should take about 5min....
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    Default I'll send some friends to help

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    You are very bored that's what happens when you retire.
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    Default NSA

    maybe the NSA can help, they can find out anything.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaSpyder View Post
    Well I was just guessing, Joe was easy to spell, but it could be Bob I suppose or Engelbert....
    I taped "Miss July", to my Safety Card...

    It voided the warranty; but it was worth it!
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    That's how BRP knows you haven't been reading it. After so much disuse, it sticks and you have to go to a dealer and confess, thus voiding your warranty!
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    the best way to remove that card is with a chainsaw. The sticking issue will be solved for good.
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    My salesman actually told me that you had to pull out the card to start the engine... I just nodded and smiled


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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperman View Post
    How'd you know it was Joe? The original poster was Anonymous.


    Yeah,

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    Had that happened before....fixed it with a hammer and it never happened again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperman View Post
    How'd you know it was Joe? The original poster was Anonymous.
    I was "Skyped" by the NSA...

    They're the ones who ratted on you, Joe!
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    The cheap glue leaked. Leave it in the sun for an hour or so, and open it. Remove the sticker, and clean the panel with "Goof Off" or something similar. Find a "Do Not Mess with my Spyder" sticker, and place it on the now clean panel. Close the panel.

    The panel now has a beneficial use as an additional deterrent for keeping admirers off your ryde...
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    You can always just leave it in the "deployed" position; it does a nice job of reducing the glare on the main screen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruiser View Post
    Not reading the safety card will NOT void the warranty. However, the card retainer has a micro switch which when opened, counts the number of times the safety card is read before start. This goes in to the BUDS under safety card activation. After 250 starts without reading the card, the BUDS goes in to safety lockdown sequencing. There is no code for this available to the owner. The machine must then be towed to the dealer. The dealer must have a current BUDS program for unlocking the sequencer, resetting the counter and updating the ECM. Please note that once the system is reset the number of starts is reduced to 200 when the sequencer locks the system again. Currently there is only one dealer who has this program from BRP. They can't use it because their AST computer is down and their BRP tech only works on Tuesday and Thursday. Monday, Wednesday and Friday he shovels coal at the mine.
    I live in Califonia, and had this problem. It IS NOT covered by warranty. It took 1.5 hours of shop time to fix it! It cost me $135.00 at the dealer. THE MORAL OF THE STORY: PULL OUT THE CARD AND READ IT EVERY TIME. THE NANNY KNOWS IF YOU JUST PULL IT OUT AND PUSH IT IN. YOU MUST READ IT.
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