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No oil on the stick
159 miles ago I had my first $400.00 oil change,that was two weeks ago.yesterday I went on a 100+ mile ride?today I was cleaning my spyder ( got rained on,big time ) I decided to check the oil,I started it up got it to operating temp,shut it off took the dipstick out,swiped it off,put it back in,took it out,bone dry,did the whole procedure again,still nothing.
what am I doing wrong,it's a 2013 ST S SE5 no indication on the dash that oil is low.
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Put a couple ounces in. Ride it to get it hot, shut it off and then check it. If it still isn't on the stick add a couple more ounces. It's best to check it after a ride when it's good and hot. There is no "low oil" light.
Last edited by Highwayman2013; 09-01-2014 at 09:43 AM.
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Originally Posted by Highwayman2013
Put a couple ounces in. Ride it to get it hot, shut it off and then check it. If it still isn't on the stick add a couple more ounces. It's best to check it after a ride when it's good and hot. There is no "low oil" light.
no,no low oil light.
ill do that, thanks
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
There is no indicator for "Low OIl Level"...
...Only, "Low Oil Pressure"...
Call your dealer; read them the riot act, and then add some oil!
No Bob,nothing to indicate an issue,
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Originally Posted by Genet
No Bob,nothing to indicate an issue,
When I turn the key on the oil indicator stays red until I start it then it goes away.
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letting it ideal is not enough you must ride it for at least 15 min then check the oil
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Originally Posted by Genet
When I turn the key on the oil indicator stays red until I start it then it goes away.
That's because the oil pressure hasn't gotten woke-up yet...
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Take a look at post #25 here:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ht=check+level
The bottom line is, just letting the spyder sit and idle until the gauge shows the engine is warm is not the way to do it.
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Originally Posted by wyliec
that at helped a lot,thanks. I'll go for a ride and report back,thanks again.
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You need to take it for a ride to get the oil to circulate properly and to bring the spyder up to its proper operating temp.
When I do what you have just the oil stick shows no oil but when I go for a ride and then check the oil level it show there is oil on the stick. I have a 2010 RTS SE5.
If I am going to check the oil level I will check it right after I arrive home from a days ride,
I always carry a quart of oil with me, so that I can check and add oil when we stop for a lunch break while out riding.
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
There is no indicator for "Low OIl Level"...
...Only, "Low Oil Pressure"...
Call your dealer; read them the riot act, and then add some oil!
There is!! It's called the check engine light but you are sol if it comes on!!!
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Got this from A BRP certified tech.
Start engine, let idle until cooling fan comes on, continue idle until cooling fan comes on a second time. Shut down and check oil.
I did a comparison of this procedure and driving for half hour then checking oil. Both gave same reading.
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Originally Posted by Genet
159 miles ago I had my first $400.00 oil change,that was two weeks ago.yesterday I went on a 100+ mile ride?today I was cleaning my spyder ( got rained on,big time ) I decided to check the oil,I started it up got it to operating temp,shut it off took the dipstick out,swiped it off,put it back in,took it out,bone dry,did the whole procedure again,still nothing.
what am I doing wrong,it's a 2013 ST S SE5 no indication on the dash that oil is low.
You're getting some good advice here from other members. I would like to add that the proper procedure for checking the oil is in your owner's manual. The way you checked your oil is NOT correct. When in doubt read your manual.
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Originally Posted by Marker
You need to take it for a ride to get the oil to circulate properly and to bring the spyder up to its proper operating temp.
When I do what you have just the oil stick shows no oil but when I go for a ride and then check the oil level it show there is oil on the stick. I have a 2010 RTS SE5.
If I am going to check the oil level I will check it right after I arrive home from a days ride,
I always carry a quart of oil with me, so that I can check and add oil when we stop for a lunch break while out riding.
You have to ride it first then check. Shortly after I bought my STL I did the idle in the garage until I had 4 bars on the temp gauge. Pulled dip stick NO OIL! I added 8 ounces to get it 3/4 of the way to the full mark. Yhe next day after a ride I checked it again it was way over full. I attached a piece of gas line hose to a turkey baster and guess what? I took about 8 ounces back out. This is an SE5 so I think riding it and warming up the tranny makes a big difference. Maybe an SM not so much? I am not the one to answer that question.
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Try this..!!
if your not ryding..run the engine till the fan comes on. Check the level at this point. Add as needed a little at a time (it's easier to add than remove). Keep the level above half and below full. I check the oil after coming off a long ryde. But your manual tells you to check oil every so often. I hear the 1330ACE is really good on oil but the rest use oil...so check it..!!
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Not only does the engine have to be at normal running temp but you also have to shut it off then back on for 30 seconds to clear the oil pump. You are checking the tank not the engine. It would help if you read the owners manual.
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$400 for an oil change?! Is that normal for these machines?
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No; it isn't...
With my 998, it was normally a touch over $115.00
The 1330 stretches it to just over $135.00 (More oil)
I'm not sure if this was a break-in service or not; they DO run a bit higher...
Last edited by Bob Denman; 09-02-2014 at 08:19 AM.
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Originally Posted by Flamewinger
Not only does the engine have to be at normal running temp but you also have to shut it off then back on for 30 seconds to clear the oil pump. You are checking the tank not the engine. It would help if you read the owners manual.
If you will read my original post you will see that I did READ THE MANUAL.
i was just concerned something else was wrong. Thanks for the snarky reply,
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Originally Posted by Flamewinger
Not only does the engine have to be at normal running temp but you also have to shut it off then back on for 30 seconds to clear the oil pump. You are checking the tank not the engine. It would help if you read the owners manual.
My manual states at least 30 seconds, which means I could run it longer, let's say for another 5 minutes or maybe more. If that's the case, I don't see the difference with letting the spyder continue to run after a ride, park it, pull the panel, shut it off, and check the oil.
3. With the engine at normal operating
temperature, start engine and
let it run at idle for at least 30 seconds.
4. Stop the engine.
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