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    When I saw the title I was going to say Very well .

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    I think it works real nice.

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    Default SE semi automatic & SM manual transmission

    Here are two posts I put in some time ago. Maybe this will help.

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    The SE is not an "automatic" transmission. The transmission is the same as the SM -- a manual transmission with a conventional motorcycle-type multiplate wet clutch. The difference is that BRP designed an automatic clutch control system and shifting system to shift the manual transmission. They also added a centrifugal clutch mechanism to keep the clutch disengaged at idle when not moving. Conventional thinking and experience with "automatic" transmissions does not apply. If you downshift the SE or downshift the SM, you are doing the same thing and with the same results.

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    The clutches for both SM and SE's are essentially the same -- multi-plate wet motorcycle clutches. The centrifugal part of the SE arrangement is a centrifugally actuated mechanism that disengaged the conventional multi-plate clutch when the rev's dropped low such as when you were stopped and the engine is idling. For normal shifting, the clutch operation was not centrifugal but was operated by oil pressure and control solenoids that would quickly disengage the clutch perfectly synchronized with the shifting solenoids to get the next higher or lower gear. The 2014's did away with the centrifugal mechanism for the SE's and use computer programming to gradually engage the clutch from a standstill so you get a smooth start without stalling the engine or without excessive clutch slipping. The same way the automotive "dual clutch" transmissions do.

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    Thanks for the explanation.
    But we sure could have used Scotty batting clean-up, for this one!
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    What's a Scotty?

    Isnt that an English dog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNOOPY View Post
    What's a Scotty?

    Isnt that an English dog?

    Everybody knows knows that they are Scottish Dogs...
    Scottish Terrier.jpg

    English...
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    The SE5 is an computer controlled with hydraulic shifting and clutch control using the SM5 transmission. It uses things like engine speed, mph, clutching, and keeping track of what gear your in and much more. It's one of the better systems I have seen. If you want more information buy a workshop manual and read up on it. For me to sit down and explain the system, we would need a few hours to show you how it works. That's about the best I can do online.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post

    Everybody knows knows that they are Scottish Dogs...
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    Intellect has not died.... It has simply moved on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNOOPY View Post
    What's a Scotty?

    Isnt that an English dog?
    SCOTTY.....doesn't the name give you some sort of clue ?

    A short lesson, Great Britain/United Kingdom is made up of four countries, England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.

    Now it's homework time.

    Where does a Welsh border collie come from ?
    Where does an Old English sheepdog come from ?
    Where does an Irish wolfhound come from ?

    Answers on a postcard please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZSpyderRyder View Post
    SCOTTY.....doesn't the name give you some sort of clue ?

    A short lesson, Great Britain/United Kingdom is made up of four countries, England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.

    Now it's homework time.

    Where does a Welsh border collie come from ?
    Where does an Old English sheepdog come from ?
    Where does an Irish wolfhound come from ?

    Answers on a postcard please.
    What should we have expected from a "Beagel"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZSpyderRyder View Post
    SCOTTY.....doesn't the name give you some sort of clue ?

    A short lesson, Great Britain/United Kingdom is made up of four countries, England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.

    Now it's homework time.

    Where does a Welsh border collie come from ?
    Where does an Old English sheepdog come from ?
    Where does an Irish wolfhound come from ?

    Answers on a postcard please.

    Engalnd
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    Whatever

    From this side of the pond, no difference in. England and Scotland.


    Hope that English guy doesn't see this...or is he Scottish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZSpyderRyder View Post
    SCOTTY.....doesn't the name give you some sort of clue ?

    A short lesson, Great Britain/United Kingdom is made up of four countries, England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.

    Now it's homework time.

    Where does a Welsh border collie come from ?
    Where does an Old English sheepdog come from ?
    Where does an Irish wolfhound come from ?

    Answers on a postcard please.
    Most come from the local Animal Shelter

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy_100 View Post
    Here are two posts I put in some time ago. Maybe this will help.

    First post:
    The SE is not an "automatic" transmission. The transmission is the same as the SM -- a manual transmission with a conventional motorcycle-type multiplate wet clutch. The difference is that BRP designed an automatic clutch control system and shifting system to shift the manual transmission. They also added a centrifugal clutch mechanism to keep the clutch disengaged at idle when not moving. Conventional thinking and experience with "automatic" transmissions does not apply. If you downshift the SE or downshift the SM, you are doing the same thing and with the same results.

    Second post:
    The clutches for both SM and SE's are essentially the same -- multi-plate wet motorcycle clutches. The centrifugal part of the SE arrangement is a centrifugally actuated mechanism that disengaged the conventional multi-plate clutch when the rev's dropped low such as when you were stopped and the engine is idling. For normal shifting, the clutch operation was not centrifugal but was operated by oil pressure and control solenoids that would quickly disengage the clutch perfectly synchronized with the shifting solenoids to get the next higher or lower gear. The 2014's did away with the centrifugal mechanism for the SE's and use computer programming to gradually engage the clutch from a standstill so you get a smooth start without stalling the engine or without excessive clutch slipping. The same way the automotive "dual clutch" transmissions do.

    Great post.

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