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    Default Rear Brake pads

    I have the 2012 Limited with the (Automatic)
    I have had the Rear pads replaced a couple of times now, and they were recently done with EBC, As I only have about 17,000 miles on the bike, Now it appears the pads maybe wore out again....I have several other sport/Tour bikes and have never seen anything burn through pads like this....

    I also had the dealer check it out and they said nothing was wrong...


    Is there something els here I need to be looking at....

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    With 7500 on mine, my mechanic commented on how thin he thought my rear pads looked, but we decided they would last until I got back from Canada and we did another service. So maybe 10,000 miles on a set

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    Recently replaced my rear pads and rotor with EBC from BahaRon. Like you, I've never seen rear brakes wear as fast as on the Spyder.
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    The actual specs for them, allows them to get pretty darn thin. Perhaps they're being pulled prematurely?
    (I'll need to put on my glasses, and go find the spec for you... )
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    i've got 18k on my rts2011 haven't replaced brakes yet.i guess i should have them looked at next time i go in for service.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    The actual specs for them, allows them to get pretty darn thin. Perhaps they're being pulled prematurely?
    (I'll need to put on my glasses, and go find the spec for you... )

    1mm, about 3/4 of the width of a dime....
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    Its is not the miles that are on the brakes.... but the amount of times that you use those brakes and how hard you use those brakes in those miles.... Think about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    1mm, about 3/4 of the width of a dime....
    Ron,

    Do the aftermarket pads eliminate the brake squeal?
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    You need to do more engine braking and less foot braking.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PW2013STL View Post
    Ron,

    Do the aftermarket pads eliminate the brake squeal?
    In almost every case, yes. But there have been a few customers who got noise out of these EBC pads. No way to know why.
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    As the front brakes generally do 70% or more of the overall braking on most vehicles, I find it curious that the rears are wearing out faster than the fronts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    In almost ever case, yes. But there have been a few customers who got noise out of these EBC pads. No way to know why.
    Do you carry them for the 2014 RT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkLawson View Post
    As the front brakes generally do 70% or more of the overall braking on most vehicles, I find it curious that the rears are wearing out faster than the fronts.
    Have never tested this out but my theory is that the braking system is biased towards the rear wheel. In other words, the rear brake is applied first and released last. This would tend to stabilize the Spyder when stopping and might explain why the rear wears so quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    No, I do not think there is an aftermarket source for the Brembo brakes on the 2013/14 Spyder.
    So... They've got us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    No, I do not think there is an aftermarket source for the Brembo brakes on the 2013/14 Spyder.
    Darn, I guess I just assumed that you'd have pads for the 2014. I'm at 16,000 miles and my pads are okay but it won't be long until I need some. I do engine brake quite often but I also pull a loaded trailer often too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    No, I do not think there is an aftermarket source for the Brembo brakes on the 2013/14 Spyder.
    Ron,

    EBC list for the 2014 RT

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    Default Varies..!!

    RS sm5 2012 with 22,000 miles and breaks still in specs. I ryde double up most of the time but use engine compression to slow down also most of the time. RT's are heavier and can carry more weight. Pulling trailers etc add to that wear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    So... They've got us!
    As usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    So... They've got us!
    Nope - EBC makes them
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    I have also mentioned about mine in other threads, but seems appropriate here also.

    Never replaced brake pads on any of my Spyders. My high milers were are 36,500, 25,000, and 23,500. When I brought the 2011 in for season start up service, they said the brakes were fine at 13,000 miles.

    I do a lot of mountain descending here, but let the engine do the braking most of the time. I also enter twisties at just enough speed to accelerate slightly--so no brakes on most curves. I try to drive so my foot is not on the brake a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PW2013STL View Post
    Nope - EBC makes them
    Hold the Phones and Stop the Presses! EBC DOES INDEED make them.

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    Ok, I'm back.

    Well, well, well. This is encouraging news! EBC makes this brake pad in both the Semi-Sintered 'V' series and the Sintered 'HH' Series.

    I have no personal experience with the HH series as it was developed for high performance motorcycles and is not available for the pre-2013 model Spyder pads. But BRP has stepped up their braking system with the Brembo's and it has opened another door for brake pad choices.

    The V series are designed for touring and this compound gives the rider more 'Feel'. Hard to describe but 2 wheel riders know exactly what I mean. Braking on 2 wheels has to be managed very carefully and the rider needs to monitor several 'Inputs' to brake effectively. One of which is the 'Feel' from the brake peddle and lever.

    But with the Spyder, feel is not nearly as important to the rider as on 2 wheels. The HH series will last longer and stop better. The unknowns (at least to me) are #1 noise potential, #2 dust production and #3 overall rider satisfaction with the product.

    So, I am looking for a test pilot or 2 so that we can get some user feedback on this product. I do not have a 2013/14 Spyder so I will need a Spyderlover or 2 to supply me with data on this product.

    I will supply you with a set of these pads at a price below my cost. But I am only interested in a rider who will;
    1- Install these right away
    2- Ride them right away
    3- Give them a good workout
    4- Supply comprehensive and honest feedback
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    Have never tested this out but my theory is that the braking system is biased towards the rear wheel. In other words, the rear brake is applied first and released last. This would tend to stabilize the Spyder when stopping and might explain why the rear wears so quickly.
    Also the diameter of the disk should be larger and the caliber should have at least two pistons, due to the size and weight of the rear tire, rim, and drive sprocket. That's IMHO.


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    I was going to be replacing mine anyway because of the squeal, but I won't be near my shop to be able to do the work for at least a couple of weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    Have never tested this out but my theory is that the braking system is biased towards the rear wheel. In other words, the rear brake is applied first and released last. This would tend to stabilize the Spyder when stopping and might explain why the rear wears so quickly.

    You also have twice the braking surface on the front brakes because you have two separate caliper systems .......so you will only get half the wear ......IMHO....Mikeguyver

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcthorne View Post
    You need to do more engine braking and less foot braking.....
    .......Along, long time ago, someone a lot smarter than me said ....."would you rather pay for brake pads .........or a new clutch or transmission " . I use my brakes ...JMHO Mikeguyver

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