Tires....a.g.a.i.n

[GeoffCee]

I wish I knew what it is that gets so many people offering their 2 cents about this or that choice of tire.
I think the subject of tire choice on this forum is entirely subjective, meaning everybody's opinion is only that, an opinion.
It would be better if tire choice was based on a scientific assessment, but it is what it is, just one guy's point of view butting up against another.
My Spyder RT's wheels go round and round and I refuse to beat myself up worrying about side wall stiffness and the number of plies in my tires.
I already have a life, thank you, I'm not looking for yet another way to uselessly waste my time.
Seems to me tires are a specialist subject and not being a specialist I'll happily stick with BRP and the Kendas.


Unless, of course. somebody out there REALLY knows of a better tire?

[ulflyer]

I wish I knew what it is that gets so many people offering their 2 cents about this or that choice of tire.

I already have a life, thank you, I'm not looking for yet another way to uselessly waste my time.
Seems to me tires are a specialist subject and not being a specialist I'll happily stick with BRP and the Kendas.


Unless, of course. somebody out there REALLY knows of a better tire?

Why then are you "uselessly wasting your time" replying to these posts?

[GeoffCee]

Why then are you "uselessly wasting your time" replying to these posts?

In case somebody out there REALLY knows of a better tyre.

Clearly, not you.

[Bob Denman]

Now that the issue of, "What type of wheel is on the Spyder?" has been resolved; the waters will appear even murkier!
(It's an automotive style...)

[PW2013STL]

I have not replied to this thread before now as I have not gone back to the factory tire.

I will state that I will not ever go back unless I am forced to!

[Bob Denman]

So... what tire are you using now?

[jaherbst]

I wish I knew what it is that gets so many people offering their 2 cents about this or that choice of tire.
I think the subject of tire choice on this forum is entirely subjective, meaning everybody's opinion is only that, an opinion.
It would be better if tire choice was based on a scientific assessment, but it is what it is, just one guy's point of view butting up against another.
My Spyder RT's wheels go round and round and I refuse to beat myself up worrying about side wall stiffness and the number of plies in my tires.
I already have a life, thank you, I'm not looking for yet another way to uselessly waste my time.
Seems to me tires are a specialist subject and not being a specialist I'll happily stick with BRP and the Kendas.


Unless, of course. somebody out there REALLY knows of a better tire?

Well said!

Jack

[Bob Denman]

In case somebody out there REALLY knows of a better tyre.

This is pretty easy to figure out...
The Better tire will ALWAYS be the one that you're ordering right now, for the next tire change!

[wyliec]

I wish I knew what it is that gets so many people offering their 2 cents about this or that choice of tire.
I think the subject of tire choice on this forum is entirely subjective, meaning everybody's opinion is only that, an opinion.
It would be better if tire choice was based on a scientific assessment, but it is what it is, just one guy's point of view butting up against another.

Scientific assessment on spyderlovers is typically SOTP (seat of the pants). Of course, there are some on here whom you'd would swear had calibrated SOTP.

[olderman]

I will just say I have my 2nd Michelin car tire on the rear on my Spyder, and the first one I got over 26000 miles on it and had no problems at all. I' m sure I could have gotten at least another 3,000 or 4,000 miles on it, but wanted to be ready for this riding season so I had it done in the winter. I have General car tires on the front and have almost about 28,000 miles on them and they look almost brand new still. I will never go back to the stock tires.

What model Michelin did you buy and does it matter if the Spyder is a R S or R T or any other R's
I have a 2014 R S and put a new tire on at 5,200 miles. O E M ( I didn't put it on-- the dealership did ) $277.77 o t d Living in Ca. I am able to ride 12 months a year, and in 8 months have 7,000 miles on . What with oil changes and new tires every 6 months it gets a little pricey. Thanks for the info.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I wish I knew what it is that gets so many people offering their 2 cents about this or that choice of tire.
I think the subject of tire choice on this forum is entirely subjective, meaning everybody's opinion is only that, an opinion.
It would be better if tire choice was based on a scientific assessment, but it is what it is, just one guy's point of view butting up against another.
My Spyder RT's wheels go round and round and I refuse to beat myself up worrying about side wall stiffness and the number of plies in my tires.
I already have a life, thank you, I'm not looking for yet another way to uselessly waste my time.
Seems to me tires are a specialist subject and not being a specialist I'll happily stick with BRP and the Kendas.


Unless, of course. somebody out there REALLY knows of a better tire?

I really know my answering you is REALLY futile, but it's raining .....What is your requirement for " really knows the best tire " , I hope it's not the opinion of BRP.....Because their decision to put KENDA'S on the Spyder had nothing to do with performance....it was strictly financial.....I have a " V " rated tire on the front of my Spyder that cost me $57.....What are the Kenda's rated at ????....I don't think anyone knows .....Why ? maybe because it's so LOW it would scare you to know.............And are you telling me that KENDA tires really are the EQUAL of Michelin's , or Pirelli's ,or Yokohama's, or Goodyear's........I know what are better tires for the Spyder, but I think you want the info directly from the mouth of GOD..........just sayin................enjoy your Kenda's ......I enjoy my 1/2 the cost " V " rated Toyo's ...Mike

[DrewNJ]

Personally, I'm not at all fond of Michelin and Goodyear car tires. I've had horrible results in the past with both. Michelin having great tread life but being slick as snot as they age, Goodyear tires just wanting to fall apart.
Kendas are actually a pretty well respected tire in the motorcycle and atv world. I've had nothing but good things to say about my kenda spyder tires. Very good tread life and great dry/wet traction (which is most important IMHO).

Will I change to car tires or stay with Kendas when I need new tires? Who knows.... I agree that it's silly to over think tires. Ride more, worry less. Ride safe!

[Bob Denman]

(Dammit! )

[wyliec]

Personally, I'm not at all fond of Michelin and Goodyear car tires. I've had horrible results in the past with both. Michelin having great tread life but being slick as snot as they age, Goodyear tires just wanting to fall apart.
Kendas are actually a pretty well respected tire in the motorcycle and atv world. I've had nothing but good things to say about my kenda spyder tires. Very good tread life and great dry/wet traction (which is most important IMHO).

Will I change to car tires or stay with Kendas when I need new tires? Who knows.... I agree that it's silly to over think tires. Ride more, worry less. Ride safe!

What is the matter with you. You are starting to mellow. I'll have to put you on my ignore list.

[Deanna777]

I need to replace the crap kenda rear tire on my 2014 RTS that only has 6700 miles on it. What brand and size is everyone using?

I put on a General Altimax RT 43 Size: 215/60R15 on the rear of a 2014RTS-SE6 last month. I do not feel a difference when riding on dry/wet roads. ( I have about 2, 000 miles on the rear tire, the original tire Kenda had 5,284) With the General Altimax RT 43. I got the tire because of the Ratings.


The mileage on my Spyder is 7,888 miles. Deanna

[PW2013STL]

I put on a General Altimax RT 43 Size: 215/60R15 on the rear of a 2014RTS-SE6 last month. I do not feel a difference when riding on dry/wet roads. ( I have about 2, 000 miles on the rear tire, the original tire Kenda had 5,284) With the General Altimax RT 43. I got the tire because of the Ratings.


The mileage on my Spyder is 7,888 miles. Deanna

I now have 11,000 miles on my General Altimax RT 43 (same size as yours) and today I measured the tread depth in the center and it is .120 so it should be good for another 10,000 or more.
I really like how this tire handles both dry, wet, and muddy roads.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I now have 11,000 miles on my General Altimax RT 43 (same size as yours) and today I measured the tread depth in the center and it is .120 so it should be good for another 10,000 or more.
I really like how this tire handles both dry, wet, and muddy roads.

Since I have sent people to this tire, I'm curious as to what PSI you are running, & is that single or with Passenger..? ? ?.......I have Dee's at 24 lbs, because of the stiffer sidewalls, she rides alone...........Mike

[GeoffCee]

This is pretty easy to figure out...
The Better tire will ALWAYS be the one that you're ordering right now, for the next tire change!

AAAAGGGGHHHHH...!

[GeoffCee]

I really know my answering you is REALLY futile, but it's raining .....What is your requirement for " really knows the best tire " , I hope it's not the opinion of BRP.....Because their decision to put KENDA'S on the Spyder had nothing to do with performance....it was strictly financial.....I have a " V " rated tire on the front of my Spyder that cost me $57.....What are the Kenda's rated at ????....I don't think anyone knows .....Why ? maybe because it's so LOW it would scare you to know.............And are you telling me that KENDA tires really are the EQUAL of Michelin's , or Pirelli's ,or Yokohama's, or Goodyear's........I know what are better tires for the Spyder, but I think you want the info directly from the mouth of GOD..........just sayin................enjoy your Kenda's ......I enjoy my 1/2 the cost " V " rated Toyo's ...Mike

To summarise this slanderous outburst:

Spyder tires are of relative poor quality because they've been manufactured to the lowest possible unit price.
Kenda's speed ratings are a BRP industrial secret.
Kenda tires are so shockingly second rate that they're really unfit for purpose.
Kendas are overpriced.

It's strange then, all the above being true, that Kenda's haven't come back to bite their Scrooge-like BRP master in the butt.
I don't remember reading in these pages of a single instance of a Kenda de-laminating, nor suddenly going flat through failure of the carcass.
There is no reticence among contributors to Spyderlovers when a grievance concerning their machines becomes apparent so we'd hear about a rash of failing Kenda tires pretty darn quick were it to happen.

So far, so good. I'll stay with my Kendas.

[Bob Denman]

Hi Geoff,
There have been instances of Kendas having some trouble with the belts separating...
Dan )Firefly) went through a bunch of front tires that got "lumpy" on him.
That having been said; I have had pretty good luck with my OEM tires. I switch to the "Dark Side" in order to find some more tread life...

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

To summarise this slanderous outburst:

Spyder tires are of relative poor quality because they've been manufactured to the lowest possible unit price.
Kenda's speed ratings are a BRP industrial secret.
Kenda tires are so shockingly second rate that they're really unfit for purpose.
Kendas are overpriced.

It's strange then, all the above being true, that Kenda's haven't come back to bite their Scrooge-like BRP master in the butt.
I don't remember reading in these pages of a single instance of a Kenda de-laminating, nor suddenly going flat through failure of the carcass.
There is no reticence among contributors to Spyderlovers when a grievance concerning their machines becomes apparent so we'd hear about a rash of failing Kenda tires pretty darn quick were it to happen.

So far, so good. I'll stay with my Kendas.

I know what the word " SLANDEROUS " means............I haven't said anything that meets that criteria .................annnnnnnd ENJOY your Kenda's , because for the rear tire you will be buying a lot of them .....................Mike

[JerryB]

Hi Mike,

I do find this, and other threads on tires, very informative. And that is a good thing; I want to learn all that I can so that I can make the best decision for me.

What I find hilarious is that, in many threads, posters complain about the nanny-state and how rules, regs , etc tell us what to do.

So here is BRP, in a sense, telling us what to do ( use only OEM equipment ) and some people swear by it.

You cannot have it both ways.

I have always been of the opinion that once the doctor whacks you on the keester for your first cry, all bets are off.

Thanks for taking the time to read my rant; now I'll get down off of the soapbox,

Jerry Baumchen

[PW2013STL]

Since I have sent people to this tire, I'm curious as to what PSI you are running, & is that single or with Passenger..? ? ?.......I have Dee's at 24 lbs, because of the stiffer sidewalls, she rides alone...........Mike

Mike,

I am running at 28# and two up about 95% of the time. 8,500 of those miles was also pulling a loaded trailer.

Les

[wyliec]

Hi Mike,

I do find this, and other threads on tires, very informative. And that is a good thing; I want to learn all that I can so that I can make the best decision for me.

What I find hilarious is that, in many threads, posters complain about the nanny-state and how rules, regs , etc tell us what to do.

So here is BRP, in a sense, telling us what to do ( use only OEM equipment ) and some people swear by it.

You cannot have it both ways.

I have always been of the opinion that once the doctor whacks you on the keester for your first cry, all bets are off.

Thanks for taking the time to read my rant; now I'll get down off of the soapbox,

Jerry Baumchen

You can have it as many ways as you'd like. If I decide I want to run kendas, I'll run them and give my opinion. If next week I decide I want to switch to an aftermarket tire (and not pay attention to BRP's caution), I will. What is funny is the first cry from the dr's whack has seemed to carry on, and on, and on.......................for some.

[cyclekid58]

Mike,

I am running at 28# and two up about 95% of the time. 8,500 of those miles was also pulling a loaded trailer.

Les

Les, have you tried other pressures first, any issues at 28?