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    Default 2014 Shift Point

    Had a 2010 RT and now have a new 2014 RTS. The 998 loved high rpm's and a shift point of 4,000+. I've been out two days now on the 2014 with Eco mode on and it seems the shift point is around 2,500. Is this what others are finding? Going by this I'm in 6th at 45 mph.


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    Yes, I used to shift my '10 at 5,000 rpms. I use the Eco on the '14 RTS.
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    That is quite a difference ...
    Well; we got used to winding the tach-up, for the twins...
    Now; we'll have to un-learn all of it, and start over!
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    That sounds right to me. However, I have only used Eco mode for one tank of fuel. I would prefer water torture to Eco mode any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    That sounds right to me. However, I have only used Eco mode for one tank of fuel. I would prefer water torture to Eco mode any day.
    Water torture??
    Like this??
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    Default Yup! That's right...

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    Had a 2010 RT and now have a new 2014 RTS. The 998 loved high rpm's and a shift point of 4,000+. I've been out two days now on the 2014 with Eco mode on and it seems the shift point is around 2,500. Is this what others are finding? Going by this I'm in 6th at 45 mph.


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    Whether in ECO Mode or not, that's slightly above the lowest shift point recommended by BRP for the ACE 1330 /6 speed. Of course you can go higher, we do! Don't know yet how much it affects fuel economy. There are other members doing that testing currently and it will be interesting to see how driving style affects mileage and your level of enjoyment. I believe most would go with the enjoyment shift points

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    I can't WAIT for the great, "1330 shift-points" debates to begin...
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    Default 2014 RT-S SE6 shift point 3,000 to 4,500 rpm; NO Eco mode 2,500 rpm is lugging motor

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    Had a 2010 RT and now have a new 2014 RTS. The 998 loved high rpm's and a shift point of 4,000+. I've been out two days now on the 2014 with Eco mode on and it seems the shift point is around 2,500. Is this what others are finding? Going by this I'm in 6th at 45 mph.


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    Hi,
    I have 3,150 miles on my 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6 shifting between 3k to 4.5k rpm (1330 motor sweet spot) normal ryding; average 33 mpg.
    Shifting 4k to 6.5k rpm the 1330 triple motor comes alive with awesome torque/power; average 32 mpg.
    Shifting 3k to 4k ryding easy not over 75 mph I get 37.5 mpg.
    I never lug motor 2.5k or below. Never in ECO mode. I like SpyderAnn01 comment "I would prefer water torture to Eco mode anyday"; ha!
    I love the wailing sound of the 1330 triple motor so am on the throttle a lot throught the gears.
    Mostly ryde in 5th gear aound town, etc. Only use 6th over 65 mph.
    Don't be concerned about rpms, the new in-line 1330 triple motor loves to rev also like the 998.
    Enjoy your new 2014 RT!!
    (This is my preference)!
    Jim
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    SpyderAnn01, what is it that cause you to take water torture over the ECO?


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    She likes to use her right wrist to "Shorten roads", up a bit...
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    Don't use ECO mode and I will decide when to shift. I usually shift around 2,500-2,800 RPM's. City driving mainly in 4th gear. 5th gear usually in the 40's. Don't go into 6th gear until over 55-60.

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    Default Anxious...

    With all of this discussion on this thread............I'M READY TO RYDE!! Come on weather cooperate -- maybe Sunday -- looks close to 60 degrees in terms of the fcst

    Hope we ALL can ryde soon....shaved the beard off today to honor the "passing of winter" and ready to get out there!


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    I've been ready to ride for over Six Months...
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    Default Weather to improve here

    I'm looking forward to Sunday & Monday, March 30 & 31st. We're supposed to see nice sunny weather with 50s on Sunday and finally seeing 60 on Monday after 105 days since last seeing 60 here. I'll be getting my Victory Cross Country out for some riding (sorry no Spyder yet but seriously considering one).

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    I am also waiting for the "Great Shift Points" debate to begin. So far, it seems that most agree on 3000 to 4000 rpms when not in ECO mode.

    I am still waiting to fire up and ryde the Black Widow. It's getting closer.

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    Just remember... Your Black Widow is the 998... 5,000 rpm, and up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Just remember... Your Black Widow is the 998... 5,000 rpm, and up!
    10-4 on that. I was one of the early proponents of the 5000-5500 rpm upshift range. You remember that, I bet.

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    Default 2014 Shifting is different!

    Wow after riding my 2012 RTS for the last two years, the 2014 RTS is a lot different with shifting patterns. I turned on EcoMode on the way home from picking it up and I think it just confused me. As soon as the green arrow came on, I would shift. As soon as I would shift, it was like the green arrow instantly came on wanting me to shift again. Even when I was maintaining a constant speed right after shifting up, the green arrow would appear. It was like it was never happy with whatever speed I was in no matter what gear. It would just display a green arrow again taunting me to shift up again...

    I feel like a zombie following the green shift arrow as it taunts me...
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    I'm grabbing first to second to third upshifts at about 2,100 rpm. Fourth, fifth and sixth get snagged at 2,500 rpm.
    And I'm getting 37 mpg!
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    I've been shifting this thing like a BMW 1200 twin - upshift between 3500 and 4000 and shooting to keep a constant 3000 rpm which is 40/4th 50/5th 60/6th - no eco mode - low mpg 35.9 - high mpg 42.4 That's just what works for me - Your results may vary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I'm grabbing first to second to third upshifts at about 2,100 rpm. Fourth, fifth and sixth get snagged at 2,500 rpm.
    And I'm getting 37 mpg!

    Just got back from another run... In EcoMode, I am in 5th gear at 45 MPH and about 2600 RPMs and EcoMode is showing me the green shift-up arrow... seems weird to me!!

    A couple times I was in 1st gear and hit about 4,000 RPMs before the green arrow made an appearance....

    Does anyone know if the EcoMode follow's any rules? Like certain RPMs or speed or something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderyderjim View Post
    Hi,
    I have 3,150 miles on my 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6 shifting between 3k to 4.5k rpm (1330 motor sweet spot) normal ryding; average 33 mpg.
    Shifting 4k to 6.5k rpm the 1330 triple motor comes alive with awesome torque/power; average 32 mpg.
    Shifting 3k to 4k ryding easy not over 75 mph I get 37.5 mpg.
    I never lug motor 2.5k or below. Never in ECO mode. I like SpyderAnn01 comment "I would prefer water torture to Eco mode anyday"; ha!
    I love the wailing sound of the 1330 triple motor so am on the throttle a lot throught the gears.
    Mostly ryde in 5th gear aound town, etc. Only use 6th over 65 mph.
    Don't be concerned about rpms, the new in-line 1330 triple motor loves to rev also like the 998.
    Enjoy your new 2014 RT!!
    (This is my preference)!
    Jim
    This coincides with my experience so far. Is it just me or does the 2014 RTS seem a little slower out of the gate in 1st compared to the older RTS (mine was 2012). From a stop, I could blast off on my 2012. Could it be that this will improve after break-in period? I only have 60 miles on it!
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    I haven't found much utility in the "ECO" mode...
    Other than softening the power delivery; I'm already shifting lower than it seems to like...
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    I wish BRP would publish some guidelines. Automobile owner manuals usually have this info in them, I think. I'm reading here 2100 rpm - 3500 rpm. That's quite a range.

    Also, how does pulling a trailer affect it? When I was on my way to get fuel before leaving Springfield was the first time I realized there wasn't a trailer mode. I called Pit Bulls and asked about it. They said because of the lower torque, it wasn't necessary. I'm OK with that, but I'd like some guidelines on shifting with and without a loaded trailer.
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    Just don't try to pass a truck on a grade two up in EcoMode. Just say'n...........

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