No fenders and tire sizes

[5PYD3R]

So I have been doing a lot of research on tire sizes that will work with stock fenders. My fenders have been sleeping soundly in the garage for the past 2 yrs with no plan to put them back on. I am not saying I want to go as big as I can since I don't have fenders but what is a smart way to approach this? I am scared of getting into trouble with the nanny too. I have found a few threads that have said that no one has reported issues with going to a bigger size and that going a step or two up will actually make the speedo a bit more accurate? Right now I am looking at the Kumho Ecsta AST (stock size) for the back and Falken Ziex ZE-512 for the front (185/60R14) Thoughts?

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I've stated this 10 or more times before but here goes.................My research shows that the Yokohama " S " Drive 185/55-14 will work on the front of all Spyders from 2008 to 2013 with or without fenders.........This is a very highly recommended tire ( according to Tire Rack ) and is a " V " speed rated tire .....It can be purchased for around $ 80 per tire.............Your welcome , Mike ..............PS as another bonus this tire has the largest footprint ( for similar sizes ) according to specs from Yokohama,...............and it will not upset the "Nanny"

[Bob Denman]

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tirecalc.php

As long as you keep the overall diameter pretty darn close to the original size; you'll be good to go!
You can plug in different tire sizes here, and see what the results will be.
Happy Hunting!!

[5PYD3R]

I've stated this 10 or more times before but here goes.................My research shows that the Yokohama " S " Drive 185/55-14 will work on the front of all Spyders from 2008 to 2013 with or without fenders.........This is a very highly recommended tire ( according to Tire Rack ) and is a " V " speed rated tire .....It can be purchased for around $ 80 per tire.............Your welcome , Mike ..............PS as another bonus this tire has the largest footprint ( for similar sizes ) according to specs from Yokohama,...............and it will not upset the "Nanny"

Have not ran into a thread about this one. Thanks though! Looks like this will be my new front tire

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tirecalc.php

As long as you keep the overall diameter pretty darn close to the original size; you'll be good to go!
You can plug in different tire sizes here, and see what the results will be.
Happy Hunting!!

Thank you!

[Bob Denman]

Oh... Your screen name ROCKS! SPYD3R 001.jpg

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tirecalc.php

As long as you keep the overall diameter pretty darn close to the original size; you'll be good to go!
You can plug in different tire sizes here, and see what the results will be.
Happy Hunting!!

Bob I know you've posted this before but there is a flaw here .....it's a Mathimatical measurement.......in the real world of tires what Goodyear calls a 225/50-15, is not what a B.F. Goodrich will measure out to be ( or probably anyone else's either ).......i.e. the circumference is not going to be the same ......and the Circumference of a tire is the only true factor that matters. The Tire Rack lists in the SPECS how many revolutions per mile each tire size will have, and this way you can accurately measure the same tire sizes from different makers against each other ..........Mike

[den1953]

Pi times the diameter (twice the radius) equals the circumference. You can run this on any calculator using the Pi symbol key. Revolutions per mile is 5280x12 divided by the circumference or 5280 divided by the (circumference divided by 12). The first way converts a mile in feet to a mile in inches. The second way converts the circumference in inches to circumference in feet.

[jcthorne]

Pi times the diameter (twice the radius) equals the circumference. You can run this on any calculator using the Pi symbol key. Revolutions per mile is 5280x12 divided by the circumference or 5280 divided by the (circumference divided by 12). The first way converts a mile in feet to a mile in inches. The second way converts the circumference in inches to circumference in feet.

You cannot simply divide the circumference into 5280 ft and get revs per mile. Tires are not round in use. They have a large flat spot where the contact the ground. Different tire constructions will result in tires of the same circumference using a different number of revs pre mile. Use the tire manufacturers specs to compare, not a mathematical calculation.

Also its difficult to compare widths. Tires are not flat across with square edges. The tire section widths can be the same with very different effective contact patches. Again, compare mfg specs, not size numbers.

[Bob Denman]

That's no flaw Mike; at least not in the Math...
Manufacturing tolerances can always monkey things-up a bit...
But the raw numbers are always the best place to start the search!

[SPYD3R]

THESE WILL 'ALL' FIT.....

SPYDER TIRES
For front tires:
165/65R14 BARUM POLARIS 2
165/65R14 KLEBER KRISALP 3
165/65R14 UNIROYAL MS PLUS 5
165/65R14 SEMPERIT WINTER-GRIP
165/65R14 PIRELLI W190 SNOWCONTROL
165/65R14 GOODYEAR ULTRAGRIP 7
165/65R14 DUNLOP SP WINTER SPORT M3
165/65R14 CONTINENTAL TS 800
165/65R14 MICHELIN ALPIN A3

For rear tire:
-KUMHO 225/50 R15 Ecsta AST -Federal 225/50R15 SS-595 91W
-Fulda 225/50R15 Cart extremo
-Michelin 225/50R15 PI.Exalto PE-2
-Toyo R888 225/50R15, approved for road, but not good under rain (aquaplanning).
-Pirelli P Zero A
-Dunlop SP9000

SPYDER TIRES
For front tires:
MINE: Kumho Solus KH16 185/65-14 165/65R14 BARUM POLARIS 2
165/65R14 KLEBER KRISALP 3
165/65R14 UNIROYAL MS PLUS 5
165/65R14 SEMPERIT WINTER-GRIP
165/65R14 PIRELLI W190 SNOWCONTROL
165/65R14 GOODYEAR ULTRAGRIP 7
165/65R14 DUNLOP SP WINTER SPORT M3
165/65R14 CONTINENTAL TS 800
165/65R14 MICHELIN ALPIN A3

For rear tire:
MINE: Kumho AST 225/50-R15
Federal 225/50R15 SS-595 91W
Fulda 225/50R15 Cart extremo
Michelin 225/50R15 PI.Exalto PE-2
Toyo R888 225/50R15, approved for road, but not good under rain (aquaplanning).
Pirelli P Zero A
Dunlop SP9000
OTHERS;
REAR - Toyo Proxes 4, Michelin HydroEdge 215/60R15, Falken ZE912, Kumho Sabji.

FRONT - COOPER CS3 185/60 R 14,

[pslawing]

THESE WILL 'ALL' FIT.....

SPYDER TIRES
For front tires:
165/65R14 BARUM POLARIS 2
165/65R14 KLEBER KRISALP 3
165/65R14 UNIROYAL MS PLUS 5
165/65R14 SEMPERIT WINTER-GRIP
165/65R14 PIRELLI W190 SNOWCONTROL
165/65R14 GOODYEAR ULTRAGRIP 7
165/65R14 DUNLOP SP WINTER SPORT M3
165/65R14 CONTINENTAL TS 800
165/65R14 MICHELIN ALPIN A3

For rear tire:
-KUMHO 225/50 R15 Ecsta AST -Federal 225/50R15 SS-595 91W
-Fulda 225/50R15 Cart extremo
-Michelin 225/50R15 PI.Exalto PE-2
-Toyo R888 225/50R15, approved for road, but not good under rain (aquaplanning).
-Pirelli P Zero A
-Dunlop SP9000

SPYDER TIRES
For front tires:
MINE: Kumho Solus KH16 185/65-14 165/65R14 BARUM POLARIS 2
165/65R14 KLEBER KRISALP 3
165/65R14 UNIROYAL MS PLUS 5
165/65R14 SEMPERIT WINTER-GRIP
165/65R14 PIRELLI W190 SNOWCONTROL
165/65R14 GOODYEAR ULTRAGRIP 7
165/65R14 DUNLOP SP WINTER SPORT M3
165/65R14 CONTINENTAL TS 800
165/65R14 MICHELIN ALPIN A3

For rear tire:
MINE: Kumho AST 225/50-R15
Federal 225/50R15 SS-595 91W
Fulda 225/50R15 Cart extremo
Michelin 225/50R15 PI.Exalto PE-2
Toyo R888 225/50R15, approved for road, but not good under rain (aquaplanning).
Pirelli P Zero A
Dunlop SP9000
OTHERS;
REAR - Toyo Proxes 4, Michelin HydroEdge 215/60R15, Falken ZE912, Kumho Sabji.

FRONT - COOPER CS3 185/60 R 14,

Thanks for this INFO!!!!! Need a little help, guys. I need a new rear tire for my 2012 RT Limited. It's almost bald in middle after 9000 miles! So which one would you recommend? Need traction too! Would like a more milage tire. Then after I get the tire, do I just take to dealership and let them install? Do they mount on wheel etc.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

[SPYD3R]

Thanks for this INFO!!!!! Need a little help, guys. I need a new rear tire for my 2012 RT Limited. It's almost bald in middle after 9000 miles! So which one would you recommend? Need traction too! Would like a more milage tire. Then after I get the tire, do I just take to dealership and let them install? Do they mount on wheel etc.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

-KUMHO 225/50 R15 Ecsta AST
there is NO other tire that you'll ever need.....

[pslawing]

-KUMHO 225/50 R15 Ecsta AST
there is NO other tire that you'll ever need.....

Thanks SPYD3R!!!
Where did you purchase? You probably installed yourself, but not comfortable doing that. So just take to can am dealer?
Peggy

[pslawing]

Take a look at AMAZON

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QL6DWS/...I17KJN62QCNTQS

Is this the correct tire????????...free shipping!!!

Thanks guys!

Peggy

[SPYD3R]

Thanks SPYD3R!!!
Where did you purchase? You probably installed yourself, but not comfortable doing that. So just take to can am dealer?
Peggy

bot my KUMHO @ Billy Brown's Tire & Muffler here in Greenville, SC... took the tire to POWERSPORTS of GREENVILLE, and Bridgette (Service Mgr.) had it mounted for me....

my 1st KUMHO, i got 25,000 out of... i'm on my 2nd now.... gr8 tire...

good luck... let us know what your choice was, and how you like it....

[pslawing]

Wow that's great!!!!!!!
Thanks!!

[5PYD3R]

I've stated this 10 or more times before but here goes.................My research shows that the Yokohama " S " Drive 185/55-14 will work on the front of all Spyders from 2008 to 2013 with or without fenders.........This is a very highly recommended tire ( according to Tire Rack ) and is a " V " speed rated tire .....It can be purchased for around $ 80 per tire.............Your welcome , Mike ..............PS as another bonus this tire has the largest footprint ( for similar sizes ) according to specs from Yokohama,...............and it will not upset the "Nanny"

So IF you go by the tire comparison chart, the yokohama is going to be 0.4in shorter but 0.78in wider?

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

That's no flaw Mike; at least not in the Math...
Manufacturing tolerances can always monkey things-up a bit...
But the raw numbers are always the best place to start the search!

2 + 2 = 4......MATH____________225/50-15 Goodyear = 950 revs per mile .........225/50-15 Kumho = 960 revs per mile ( these are not factual numbers just for demonstration purposes ) Both of these tires are the SAME listed size .......However their actual circumference is not the same ........Do you understand this now..........Sometimes the revs per mile are even further apart......Go to the Tire Rack Site and check their charts and you will see what I'm talking about ......jcthorne Post # 8 knows exactly what I'm talking and I'll bet RNET would also agree with this......Mike

[SPYD3R]

2 + 2 = 4......MATH____________225/50-15 Goodyear = 950 revs per mile .........225/50-15 Kumho = 960 revs per mile ( these are not factual numbers just for demonstration purposes ) Both of these tires are the SAME listed size .......However their actual circumference is not the same ........Do you understand this now..........Sometimes the revs per mile are even further apart......Go to the Tire Rack Site and check their charts and you will see what I'm talking about ......jcthorne Post # 8 knows exactly what I'm talking and I'll bet RNET would also agree with this......Mike

Mike;
you're right.... the REV's PER MILE is determined by the depth of the tread.... @ least that's what i've been told.... the depth changes the diameter of the tire... for whatever reason, the 225 is to the bottom of the thread.... strange, i know... i wish i knew egg-zak-lee how the various tire manufacturers figured these things out.....
rock on pal..... when r u coming to TN....????

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike;
you're right.... the REV's PER MILE is determined by the depth of the tread.... @ least that's what i've been told.... the depth changes the diameter of the tire... for whatever reason, the 225 is to the bottom of the thread.... strange, i know... i wish i knew egg-zak-lee how the various tire manufacturers figured these things out.....
rock on pal..... when r u coming to TN....????

Dan I'm not positive on this buuuuut.....I think they measure the circumference of the center of the tire tread inflated ( to what PSI I don't know ).....As far as DEPTH of tread goes as a tire wears it's going to get smaller this is the same for all tires. I don't think they give a REVS per mile based on tire with " no tread " ?????.....And I'm MOVING .....ASAP

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

So IF you go by the tire comparison chart, the yokohama is going to be 0.4in shorter but 0.78in wider?

JCTHORNE in post # 8 above has a good explaination.......................I don't know the exact numbers ....the above ones you give could be correct......I do know the size ( REVS per mile ) is very close to Stock OEM.................The YOKO just has a much wider footprint in relation to it's overall width, which is only slightly wider than Stock

[SPYD3R]

Dan I'm not positive on this buuuuut.....I think they measure the circumference of the center of the tire tread inflated ( to what PSI I don't know ).....As far as DEPTH of tread goes as a tire wears it's going to get smaller this is the same for all tires. I don't think they give a REVS per mile based on tire with " no tread " ?????.....And I'm MOVING .....ASAP

MOVING....??? when i made the decision to relo from FL to SoCar, it took me all of 2 minitz to decide......
com'mon man.... JUST DO IT..... after this winter, u need to GET YOUR WHEELS TURN'n.....
we need to break-bread pal.....

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Take a look at AMAZON

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QL6DWS/...I17KJN62QCNTQS = $99.99 delivered

Is this the correct tire????????...free shipping!!!

Thanks guys!

Peggy

DiscountTiresDirect = $ 84 Delivered

[flybuddy]

General Altimax will work on the fronts also---185/60/14

[SPYD3R]

General Altimax will work on the fronts also---185/60/14

NO NO NO......
GO for the Kumho Solus KH16 185/65-14, they have a 100,000 mile wear rating....
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