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    Default Road Position Saved My Life Today.

    Whew! There are lots of reasons to establish an outside-inside-outside line in turns, and to brake before the turn, roll on the throttle through the turn....doing this increases turning radius, allows more visibility around the turn, more separation from oncomming traffic, and maximizes availabe traction.

    Today it saved my life! Really.

    I was driving in the mountains, taking a right curve, outside-inside-outside, starting to roll on the throttle. BIG TRUCK...TOO HOT IN THE TURN...OVER THE YELLOW LINE...HEADED FOR ME...relax, relax, swerve right, plenty of pavement, SWERVE NOW! Lifted right wheel. Nanny kicked in...did not collide with the truck. Whew.
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    Phew!! Time for fresh underwear!!
    Well done Dan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OJ UK View Post
    Phew!! Time for fresh underwear!!
    Well done Dan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Ashley View Post
    Whew! There are lots of reasons to establish an outside-inside-outside line in turns, and to brake before the turn, roll on the throttle through the turn....doing this increases turning radius, allows more visibility around the turn, more separation from oncomming traffic, and maximizes availabe traction.

    Today it saved my life! Really.

    I was driving in the mountains, taking a right curve, outside-inside-outside, starting to roll on the throttle. BIG TRUCK...TOO HOT IN THE TURN...OVER THE YELLOW LINE...HEADED FOR ME...relax, relax, swerve right, plenty of pavement, SWERVE NOW! Lifted right wheel. Nanny kicked in...did not collide with the truck. Whew.
    ? How can u lift a right wheel in a righthand curve

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    Righthand wheel is the inside wheel in a right curve, if something is gonna come up, that'll be it.

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    Glad to hear you got through all that safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyspyder2039 View Post
    ? How can u lift a right wheel in a righthand curve
    Generally what happens next is a flip over.. However nanny saved the day. Good to hear nothing bad happened.
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    Default Gotta say..!!

    nanny does not like flip overs and does a good job at avoiding them. My problem now is the mods I have done to the suspension upsets the nanny way to often. Wish they had put settings on the vss like tour and sport ryding... Glad you kept a cool head and pull out of it with only the scare..!!
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    Glad you're OK! It's very important to learn these valuable techniques when riding. Good quick thinking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackspyder View Post
    Glad you're OK! It's very important to learn these valuable techniques when riding. Good quick thinking!
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    Three things actually saved your bacon...good riding technique, the VSS feature, and not riding at the edge of the envelope. I'm sure you know what I mean, but I will explain for those who don't. Riding at the performance limit of your machine or the limits of your skill, pushing physics to its limits, does not leave any margin to allow evasive maneuvers, even with a nanny. If you are at the adhesion limits of your tires, the most lateral force your machine can take without lifting a wheel or sliding out, or riding faster than the distance you can see and react, there is not going to be a happy ending in a situation like this. If you are on a race track or controlled course, and are familiar with it, by all means feel free to push the envelope, but if you are on a public road where you cannot control or are not aware of the conditions...opposing traffic, sand or gravel in the road, off camber turns, potholes, wet pavement, slow traffic ahead, etc., leave yourself a little wiggle room. Your survival may depend on it. JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    Riding at the performance limit of your machine or the limits of your skill, pushing physics to its limits, does not leave any margin to allow evasive maneuvers, even with a nanny. If you are at the adhesion limits of your tires, the most lateral force your machine can take without lifting a wheel or sliding out, or riding faster than the distance you can see and react, there is not going to be a happy ending in a situation like this. If you are on a race track or controlled course, and are familiar with it, by all means feel free to push the envelope
    Even on the track they teach us how to push it without reaching the limits for very long.

    Braking a little more going into a turn, then late apexing a corner before rolling on the throttle puts you out of harms way that much longer, and minimizes the duration of time that you are near the end of your traction budget.

    You only sacrifice a small amount of speed in the corner for a whole lot more options coming out of it which is where all the exciting things happen.

    Plus it's a lot easier to brake hard and make a slower turn than it is to precisely judge how much to brake before turning into a mid-apex corner.

    For those who practice outside-inside-outside, try aiming for inside past the midpoint of the turn and see what I mean. It makes for a no-fan-fare turn which is, by all right, boring... but 99% as quick around the corner and 500% safer.

    Glad you came thru safely Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by OJ UK View Post
    Phew!! Time for fresh underwear!!
    Well done Dan!

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    Thank you for putting yourself in the postion of being able to tell your story!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NexVision View Post
    Generally what happens next is a flip over.. However nanny saved the day. Good to hear nothing bad happened.
    It is extremely difficult to flip a Spyder. Of all the hair raising events and even collisions reported here, there have been a very small number of Spyders actually flip. I am guessing 2 total (could be off on this but even if you double this figure we are looking at a total of 4).

    The Spyder may FEEL like it wants to flip over, in reality it just isn't something that happens in the real world.
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    I bet the pucker kept you from sliding on the seat as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR Buck View Post
    I bet the pucker kept you from sliding on the seat as well.
    Yep! Suction. Works every time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OJ UK View Post
    Phew!! Time for fresh underwear!!
    Well done Dan!
    I'll bet there was a pucker factor of 932 on that one. Good job on avoiding the truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Ashley View Post
    Whew! There are lots of reasons to establish an outside-inside-outside line in turns, and to brake before the turn, roll on the throttle through the turn....doing this increases turning radius, allows more visibility around the turn, more separation from oncomming traffic, and maximizes availabe traction.

    Today it saved my life! Really.

    I was driving in the mountains, taking a right curve, outside-inside-outside, starting to roll on the throttle. BIG TRUCK...TOO HOT IN THE TURN...OVER THE YELLOW LINE...HEADED FOR ME...relax, relax, swerve right, plenty of pavement, SWERVE NOW! Lifted right wheel. Nanny kicked in...did not collide with the truck. Whew.
    Glad everything worked out for you. I have been there myself, but it was a Harley, not a truck.
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