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    Default Riding skyway today and broke linkage....





    Just completed the cherohola skyway and was on the last few turns and the swaybar linkage broke. I have however come up with a bulletproof solution. I will post it as soon as I get some internet going at the cabin. It will solve all the broken swaybar issues.

    Ill go ahead and tell yall what to buy to permanently fix. Get two 5/16 fine thread tie rod ends and a grade 8 bolt with enough thread to cut off and join the two tie rods together Now butt them together and it will be the exact length as the plastic junk that comes on the spyder....

    Ill post pictures later.....

    I have no internet yet at the cabin in tellico plains. I am buying a verizon myfi and hopefully ill be online shortly.

    Sent from my Galaxy S3. I may have made a spelling error or may have some grammer issues. My fingers are way to big to type on this tiny screen!
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    Neither typing correctly nor proper grammar are a requirment on this forum (unless Lamont corrects me on this one). I personally am huked on fawnics.

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    Here is the fix.. just add all-thread and locktite.....







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    Is it possible they are a weak link for a reason. What fails, when, if they do not?


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    Default Interesting..!!

    BajaRon was running a survey on this subject looking for those that have had this exact thing happen. Wants to see if there would be a market for pretty much what you made up. Looks like you have found a good solution and very simple to DIY..thanks for doing all the leg work and sharing. I'm sure you have helped a lot of folks who will benefit from this...!!
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    While a breakage is bad, i think that a stronger part may bend the upper frame attachment point. I am not an engineer so i will wait and see what folks post.

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    They could have intended that the swaybar end link function as a shear-pin in a Hay baler does...
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    Been looking at doing the same thing except with a male threaded Heim joint and a threaded coupler. Haven't had a problem yet but this way or your way is the way to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by rabtech View Post
    Here is the fix.. just add all-thread and locktite.....







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    Well if "The Boss" is saying that it looks good; please tell us all more!
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    One wonders if this wouldn't be a good preventative measure at the time a BajaRon sway bar was added??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post

    Been looking at doing the same thing except with a male threaded Heim joint and a threaded coupler. Haven't had a problem yet but this way or your way is the way to go.
    I considered that, but I worry about the strength of the threaded coupler. Using female rod ends and a threaded rod mad from a Grade 8 bolt would be stronger. The ideal solution would be a piece of chrome moly tubing with weld-in threaded ends. JMHO
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    But do you think that this setup would be stronger than the OEM plastic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    I considered that, but I worry about the strength of the threaded couple. Using female rod ends and a threaded rod mad from a Grade 8 bolt would be stronger. The ideal solution would be a piece of chrome moly tubing with weld-in threaded ends. JMHO
    I think pretty much any option would be better than the stock option.

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    Where can you buy those male & female Heim joints/tie rod ends?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    They could have intended that the swaybar end link function as a shear-pin in a Hay baler does...
    So, now we're riding balers?

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    As Shultz from Hogan's Heros would say, "Verrrrrrrrry interesting"......

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    Quote Originally Posted by stallion143 View Post
    As Shultz from Hogan's Heros would say, "Verrrrrrrrry interesting"......
    I think you may be on the right track...

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    Default THIS ENGINEERING SCHOOL !!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveNur View Post
    Doubt the frame would bend, but can't say the mounts won't pull lose. That some engineer at BRP would believe this plastic junk would hold makes me wonder what engineering school he or she attended and just where in the bottom of the graduating class was his or her standing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabtech View Post




    Just completed the cherohola skyway and was on the last few turns and the swaybar linkage broke. I have however come up with a bulletproof solution. I will post it as soon as I get some internet going at the cabin. It will solve all the broken swaybar issues.

    Ill go ahead and tell yall what to buy to permanently fix. Get two 5/16 fine thread tie rod ends and a grade 8 bolt with enough thread to cut off and join the two tie rods together Now butt them together and it will be the exact length as the plastic junk that comes on the spyder....

    Ill post pictures later.....

    I have no internet yet at the cabin in tellico plains. I am buying a verizon myfi and hopefully ill be online shortly.

    Sent from my Galaxy S3. I may have made a spelling error or may have some grammer issues. My fingers are way to big to type on this tiny screen!
    What year Spyder do you have? Looks different than mine. I am definitely thinking this maybe the way to go as I am sometime a very aggressive rider and don't need plastic determining my destiny.

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    I HAVE INTERNET NOW!!!!!!


    I am so far back in the woods that dial up internet wont connect. I finally ran this MYFI so far up a pole that I can post this.


    I am running BajaRons prototype ST bar. Let me say it makes a huge difference. If I had to weld plates under the A arm to make it stronger I would just to run this bar.

    I can tell you that you can literally BAWL the tires around a turn with his new bar. At least until the plastic crap breaks. I don't believe anyone will have any trouble changing to a all metal joint. I will test it all week till Sunday here at Deals Gap.

    Now that I have internet ill post daily.....
    If you have an ST start bugging Ron for the bar.

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    Here is what I wonder.....

    2008-2012, very few broken Heim joint links.

    2013, a rash of broken Heim joint links. All but this one with stock sway bars...

    Hmmm.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    So, now we're riding balers?

    Hay hay I resemble that remark.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattigan_Roger View Post

    Thank you very much Roger.
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    Lamont we were on the same channel. I started pondering what would work and it looks like we almost matched solutions. I am putting them on both my spyders.

    Here is a side by side of them. Also, as long as you change both sides at once you will be ok. The new steel setup is a 1/8 inch longer. If I were at home I would have ground it down but after installing it. I realized that it doesn't matter about length as. Within a reasonable distance.

    Here is a side by side



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    Do you think it was the stress of the new sway bar on the OEM plastic coupler that caused the part to break?

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