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Missing exhaust spring and melted cylinder
Mark took the panels off the ST and wrapped the left exhaust pipe...found no spring attached to exhaust to hold it together resize2.jpgthen when we took panels off right side we found a melted brake cylinder resize1.jpgwhat to do...sent a file of pics and explanations to BRP and my dealer
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I'm pretty sure we're going to start seeing a lot of these.
As for the spring, the heat sent that one for a trip down the road.
All BRP is doing at this point is sending replacement parts for the melted and missing ones. Which just melt and go missing again. Not sure how long it'll take before they have a real fix ready for us. (they wouldn't tell me)
Please be extra careful 2013 owners.
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I will add this to the list of things to have my dealer check when I take mine in on the 11th. They will be replacing the parking brake cable which melted and also putting on new shocks.
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I went thur 8 months of crap till my bike is up to rideing now the headset still don't work right but its rideable BRP just don't get it with quality and service to be over looked at the dealer level as well as their quality were seeing they care about the sale more then the service and quality and we suffer to make pymts while its being serviced or repaired but hopefully it get fixed for you soon be happy its still under warrentee thanks Rich
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Diane & Billy Huddleston just had problems with a melted master cylinder, too, Flamingobabe, on their new ST (that they purchased at Spyderfest) . They also had the same electrical problem you had with the wire resting on the rear tire. Their ST is currently at the shop with brake failure codes.
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My 2013 STl limited at dealer right now also. Was throwing multiple codes. Brake assembly fried as well ad 6 month old battery due to heat issues. Tried to tell me not to ride too close to other cars and avoid stop and go traffic. Give my a freakin brake, I live in Houston Texas. Will give them a chance but if not satisfied can keep their bike as I will not make another payment on a bike that I cannot ride in the heat where summer last 8-9 months here.
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Melted
FB, my master cylinder cap also melted. Dealer will replace under warranty. Only fix I can think of at this time is to wrap the exhaust pipe and apply reflective heat tape on the new plastic cap. Hopefully, BRP will come up with a permanent fix.
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I don't have a dog in this hunt, but I hope, for everyone's sake that has an ST, that BRP takes notice and fixes the problems.
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Originally Posted by Sny
I'm pretty sure we're going to start seeing a lot of these.
As for the spring, the heat sent that one for a trip down the road.
All BRP is doing at this point is sending replacement parts for the melted and missing ones. Which just melt and go missing again. Not sure how long it'll take before they have a real fix ready for us. (they wouldn't tell me)
Please be extra careful 2013 owners.
I don't know.. my guess is was never installed. We found 3 body panel screws and 2 push pins missing when we got in there..plus 2 of the clips that the screws go into were missing... All of this on the left side.... some one was asleep on the job at BRP....at least on the port side...
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Originally Posted by hotglue
I don't know.. my guess is was never installed. We found 3 body panel screws and 2 push pins missing when we got in there..plus 2 of the clips that the screws go into were missing... All of this on the left side.... some one was asleep on the job at BRP.... at least on the port side...
Mark sorry to hear she having problems like this, hope they get this fixed asap,
shame for a new machine you think they would at least have the assembly down pat by now
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Originally Posted by hotglue
I don't know.. my guess is was never installed. We found 3 body panel screws and 2 push pins missing when we got in there..plus 2 of the clips that the screws go into were missing... All of this on the left side.... some one was asleep on the job at BRP.... at least on the port side...
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All I know is that if you have things melting under normal operating conditions you better be coming up with a solution fast BRP before someone gets seriously injured!
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My 2012 Limited didn't have a spring on the left side either. There was a thread that someone said left side did not have springs installed.
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another problem
and just think BRP thinks a once a year dinner is gonna make us all happy and forget about the poor quality problems that so many bikes are having on the new bikes at a high price were paying and dealer neglect
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I don't have a dog in this hunt, but I hope, for everyone's sake that has an ST, that BRP takes notice and fixes the problems.
I think someone should forward their findings to BRP and the NHTSA, seriously. These failures are a BRP design fault, not something that is normal operating conditions.
You don't buy a car expecting the brakes to fail because the master cylinder melts. You shouldn't accept that in a bike.
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Shouldn't the dealer have done a pre-delivery inspection (PDI). I know here in Canada we pay a hefty price for a PDI. If stuff is missing on the bike it should have been picked up by the dealer. They dropped the ball.
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I agree that these incidents need to be reported to the NHTSA. This is a serious matter...life and death if you think about it.
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Originally Posted by asp125
I think someone should forward their findings to BRP and the NHTSA, seriously. These failures are a BRP design fault, not something that is normal operating conditions.
You don't buy a car expecting the brakes to fail because the master cylinder melts. You shouldn't accept that in a bike.
I sent an email with pics to BRP we'll see what happens
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Bummer..!!
sorry to hear of new issues but glad you caught them when you did. Hope they come around and fix this and get you back on the road...!!
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No spring
Thanks for your detailed post. I will inspect my master cylinder in the next couple days just to be safe. I looked up the parts fiche to see the assembly and found that the left side does not take a spring, but the right side does. So it looks like it is not missing. Still seems odd to me.
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that's odd. no spring on the parts diagram, but you can see the wire loops where it goes.
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