For those with Toy Haulers... Question about amount of gas in the spyder

[WackyDan]

This will be the first trip with the spyder actually in the toy hauler versus just using the hauler as a camper.

Does it matter how much gas is in the spyder? I want to minimize fumes from the trailer bouncing around - Even though it rides pretty nice on the tandems.

[bullant12]

If you are concerened, just leave enough to where you can pull the out of the hauler and go to a filler station. Or carry an external fuel can and fill up the when ready to move.

[DRTSB]

You will find that toyhaulers have ventilation windows that you open to get the fumes out, they should be on opposite walls and one should be high and the other low, doesn't matter how much gas is in the tank, but remember gas has weight and that would require more gas in the toyhauler itself to get you there!

Dave

[cjackg]

I always have a full tank when I leave home hauling my RT and have not seen any problem with gas dripping during the trip. If you normally get some drip when parked, you might consider a horizontal Filter in the Vent pipe (like below) to contain fuel drips until contraction pulls them back up the pipe. Either way, be sure to allow ventilation when loaded in the hauler.

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[boborgera]

The less gas in the Spyders tank the more it will create fumes, A empty tank, [just a few gals in it] will slop around the empty air space in the tank and will fill with fumes...

[SpyderDen]

In over two years of hauling my Spyder in two different toy haulers, I have not noticed any fuel odors, regardless of fuel level.

[bruiser]

You will find that toyhaulers have ventilation windows that you open to get the fumes out, they should be on opposite walls and one should be high and the other low, doesn't matter how much gas is in the tank, but remember gas has weight and that would require more gas in the toyhauler itself to get you there!

Dave

At 6.073 pounds per gallon the added 34 pounds shouldn't affect fuel mileage that much. If it was me I would not haul water in the toyhauler tanks. Water weighs just over 8 ppg. at 70F.

[spyderbirds]

If we put spyder in right after a long ryde while still hot it does have some fumes. After those are gone no fumes noticed.

[Biosafena]

I just got back from a 3500 mile Texas trip with the Spyder in my toyhauler. I have hauled it almost empty, half full and completely full. No issues to report. I will get a fuel smell if I pull it into the "garage" when it is hot, but it quickly disappears when I turn on the roof vent. My trailer is about 18,000 pounds when loaded, so a few extra gallons of gas means about as much to me as a cloudy day.



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[Empty Pockets]

Wow that's a big trailer, how long is it? What's the brand? How big is the garage part? Where can I get one?

[denviola]

I had asked some of the same questions earlier this year, and it sure is nice to get input from others - http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...uler-Questions
I have traveled with the garage side wall vents slightly open and have had no issues. Amount of fuel did not make a difference, and I learned early on with the advice of others here not to fill the gas tank to the top. The vapor canister will thank you.
It is sure nice to travel with your own home on wheels. Our first trip was Spyderfest this year, 1050 miles each way. Enjoy your hauler.
Denny

[WackyDan]

You will find that toyhaulers have ventilation windows that you open to get the fumes out, they should be on opposite walls and one should be high and the other low, doesn't matter how much gas is in the tank, but remember gas has weight and that would require more gas in the toyhauler itself to get you there!

Dave

The big problem I've heard with those vents is that they leave the inside of the camper filthy with dust from the road, etc... Is that true?

[SpyderDen]

No problem with dust in mine. I guess if you are driving on a dusty road following an 18 wheeler it may be an issue.

[WackyDan]

At 6.073 pounds per gallon the added 34 pounds shouldn't affect fuel mileage that much. If it was me I would not haul water in the toyhauler tanks. Water weighs just over 8 ppg. at 70F.

I haul some water. I make sure the grey water and black water tanks are empty, but I keep maybe 5 gallons in the fresh water tank because sometimes it is nice to use the toilet in the camper if you need to while on the go... Or if we break down and I need to clean up after a fix. Fresh water tank is near the front, so I don't fill it anyway due to the added tongue weight that would have. Trailer with full 30# LP tanks on the front weighed in at 1300 pounds at the hitch before the stabilizer bars were added.

[SpyderAnn01]

We never had a problem with fumes in ours

[denviola]

The big problem I've heard with those vents is that they leave the inside of the camper filthy with dust from the road, etc... Is that true?

No issue with that because the living space is completely separate from the garage in mine, sliding glass door between.
I keep the vents slightly open to the rear during travel so it doesn't become "water injection" if it rains. May not be the best position for air movement, but it is something.

[Biosafena]

I received a few PM's asking about my toyhauler and the pics I posted. This rig started off as a 44 foot Pace American that was used to haul a dragster. When I got it, it was nothing but bare steel studs inside. It took four years to build in my driveway and two trips to the emergency room (one finger is now a little shorter thanks to the table saw). Where can you get one? Dunno. This is a total custom build. All the cabinets were milled from rough sawn lumber and built on site. Mine might be for sale in a year or so, so stay tuned!

Here are some of the numbers on my rig:
44 feet long
Garage is almost 19 feet
30,000 BTU of A/C with heat pumps
40,000 BTU forced air ducted furnace
4000 watt Xantrex inverter/charger (can be off the grid up to a week)
80 gallon fresh water capacity
120 gallon waste water capacity
14 gallon propane/electric hot water
50 amp electric service
60 pounds of propane storage
800 watts of Pioneer home stereo with satellite radio
HD Cable TV to two TV's
All cabinets are solid oak and made on site
All countertops are Corian
10 jet full body shower with stereo speakers in shower
Minimum 3.5 inches inches of insulation in all walls, floor and ceiling
Queen Serta mattress
3000# winch in garage to pull boat into garage (also used to secure Spyder)
21 foot fully electric awning with wind sensors


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