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    Default Picked up a 7x57 Ackley Imp.

    7x57 AI 3.jpg7x57 AI.jpg7x57 AI 2.jpgWent to a neighbors estate sale got a bunch of tools and this
    sporterized Mauser 98 chambered for 7x57 AI.
    Cant wait to shoot it, But need to fire form some brass and have a buddy
    load me some ammo.

    I picked it up for $300, and when I was walking out the door another guy
    noticed it and after a quick look he offered me $550.00. I think its worth a little more that that.

    Anyone here have any Ackley wildcats???

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    I don't; but what a great buy!
    Just get some standard 7x57mm rounds, and pitch them downrange; you'll be making 7x57 Ackley Imps with each pull of the tipgger.
    I like Wildcats... My main hunting firearm is my Contender in .375JDJ, and my woodchuck gun in another Contender barrel for the .22 K-Hornet!
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    I agree with Bob. 7x57 will work just fine. I had a 6mm when I was stationed in NM. Used it to hunt deer/elk. Mine was an M1896 converted to an M1941B sniper rifle. Took down many a mule deer (missed some too) and a few elk. Dang, wished I hadn't sold that rifle.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I don't; but what a great buy!
    Just get some standard 7x57mm rounds, and pitch them downrange; you'll be making 7x57 Ackley Imps with each pull of the tipgger.
    I like Wildcats... My main hunting firearm is my Contender in .375JDJ, and my woodchuck gun in another Contender barrel for the .22 K-Hornet!
    Bob that what I ment by fire forming some brass. Thats part of the fun...Buddy has some 7mm rounds for me to use up, then he's gonna load 'em for me.

    I use a TC encore in 7mm-08 for deer, which is pretty much the 7x57 AI's sister..

    Tried to sneek it in when mamma wasnt lookin, but she caught me

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    An Encore in 7mm-08? Way cool round!
    That's the Big-Brother to my Contender's 7-30 Waters!
    I'm getting a touch over 2450 fps with a 120 sierra!
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    I had a contender pistol in 7x30W. Great little round. Took a few deer out to 120yrds with that combo.
    wish I never sold it...

    I never handloaded the 7x30. Yrs ago I used a friends stuff to work up a load for my 22-250. Got the little
    pill headed downrange at 4100fps. The ground grizzlys didnt stand a chanch.......

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    Default 7x30W Round -- Agree it's Great

    Quote Originally Posted by mowin View Post
    I had a contender pistol in 7x30W. Great little round. Took a few deer out to 120yrds with that combo.
    wish I never sold it...

    I never handloaded the 7x30. Yrs ago I used a friends stuff to work up a load for my 22-250. Got the little
    pill headed downrange at 4100fps. The ground grizzlys didnt stand a chanch.......
    Spydercowboy and I have a Winchester Model 90 (I think), called a 730 Waters, and it packs a powerful punch! Only down side to the rifle is that there is not enough gun for the round so it kicks like a mule -- one of the reasons I don't care for it; but it's the only one we have with enough punch to take down a pig. I prefer my 22-250 Mauser style with custom walnut stock because it is heavy enough for the round and is smooth to shoot .... all it does is make pigs mad (though I did wound one a couple of years ago bad enough that our neighbor was able to catch up with it and kill it shortly after I hit it). BTW, these are feral hogs ... a real menace here in Texas.
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    Those old lever-action 'Chesters weren't really designed with an eye toward recoil management...
    The Waters round kicks a bit less than a standard 30-30 because of the projectile weight; but there's not a big difference!
    They work well... bagged a nice buck at 225 yards with mine!
    (Pentax 4x EER scope on a Super-14 barrel)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Those old lever-action 'Chesters weren't really designed with an eye toward recoil management...
    The Waters round kicks a bit less than a standard 30-30 because of the projectile weight; but there's not a big difference!
    They work well... bagged a nice buck at 225 yards with mine!
    (Pentax 4x EER scope on a Super-14 barrel)
    Thats a dam good poke for a pistol......

    Best shot I made w my T/C 7x30 was on paper at 200yds.

    The farthest for my 22-250 was a 'chuck at 435(rangfinder verified)..Was usin a Nikon 4x14x50
    Varget powder and a 40g Nosler.
    My pistol shootin is rather...well...lets just say it could be better....lol

    Did some indoor 22 pistol leages. Never did great, but had lots of fun....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowin View Post
    Did some indoor 22 pistol leages. Never did great, but had lots of fun....
    What'd you use?
    I started with a Ruger MKII
    Dead-reliable; I put over 80,000 rounds through it before anything broke...
    Moved up to to an S&W 41; probably overall the best-shooting pistol I used.
    Then I tried a Walther GSP... It was one very finicky racehorse! You were either in the 10 ring, or off the paper with it...

    Did you shoot in Troy? I didn some indoor 900s up there over the years. That was a real nice range!
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    I hunted Javelina in Arizona and New Mexico. I used the Winchester 30-30 and a Springfield .308 (yes, the M1) with some "procured" 7.62 ammo. Had to dial back the round though because the standard 7.62 usually tore up the varmits. We hand loaded smaller 55 grain rounds. That still gave the muzzle velocity with good knock down. The 308 did the better job of taking down these nasties at longer ranges. I'd love to have the M1A1 but the going rate is around 1700.00 and they're hard to get, especially NIB. Probably much the same as the feral pigs I should think. They are becoming a problem here in NC as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    What'd you use?
    I started with a Ruger MKII
    Dead-reliable; I put over 80,000 rounds through it before anything broke...
    Moved up to to an S&W 41; probably overall the best-shooting pistol I used.
    Then I tried a Walther GSP... It was one very finicky racehorse! You were either in the 10 ring, or off the paper with it...

    Did you shoot in Troy? I didn some indoor 900s up there over the years. That was a real nice range!
    Well I started with a H&R wheel gun open sights...dont have to tell ya how that went...lol
    Picked up a Ruger SS MKII slabside topped with a reddot..Scores went up alot. My MK was picky on what ya fed it.
    Only round that wouldnt jam in it was Green dot or green lable..Dont remember the exact mame, but they were
    one of the most $$ round out there.
    got rid of the MK and I now have a Baikal target 22 topped w a red dot. That thing is amazingly accurate...I'm not.

    Never shot in Troy, Shot for a number of yrs at Nassau sportsman club.(no not Nassau county). Also shot some at a small club
    in Stockport in Columbia CO.

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    The Rugers seemed to like Remington Standard velocity...
    We're gonna have to get together and "talk targets" some day...
    I finally earned my expert class rating in both indoor and outdoor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    The Rugers seemed to like Remington Standard velocity...
    We're gonna have to get together and "talk targets" some day...
    I finally earned my expert class rating in both indoor and outdoor...
    Love to get together and chat 'bout guns and targets..Thats always a good time
    Expert class.... Thats great. Not a easy task.

    I never tried outdoor rifle shoots. Always wanted to go to some as a spectator and learn about 'em tho.

    I was hooked on Trap and Skeet for a few yrs. Highest score in trap was 24 out of 25...did that several times.
    Always managed to drop one preventing me from gettin my perfect score patch. Think 20 out of 25 was my best skeet round
    and that only happened once or twice.

    Shot Sporting clays a bunch, but that was with a group of friends bustin on ya for missin a "easy" shot.. There are no "easy" shots in sp clays....

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    I managed "expert" with the handgun in the outdoor 2700 matches. I shot the .45 in both the Centerfire and .45 matches.
    High-Power Rifle?? I only shot enough of them to learn the deal, and qualify for a DCM M1 Garand purchase...
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    You guys need to be careful, you do know guns kill people! Just Ask The President!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_R View Post
    You guys need to be careful, you do know guns kill people! Just Ask The President!!!!!!!!!
    Dont get me........I'm gonna leave that one alone...Dont want a vacation.....

    Bob, you ever shoot the 1000yrd rifle matches? They sound like a lot of fun....

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    I wish...
    Furthest Target that I ever shot at was the prone position, 600 yarder...
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    The longest shot/s i ever took was 335m at night with a Starlight scope and using the M14, And at the time
    [1965] You needed a security clearance to even handle that scope.
    But this week end i had the chance to shoot a M14 for the first time since 1966,

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    Did you hit him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boborgera View Post
    The longest shot/s i ever took was 335m at night with a Starlight scope and using the M14, And at the time
    [1965] You needed a security clearance to even handle that scope.
    But this week end i had the chance to shoot a M14 for the first time since 1966,
    Ok for us that are conversion challanged....how many yds is 335m??

    I've squeezed of a few rounds from a M14... Wasnt in 1965 tho...I was only 1 then.

    Bob, 600 yrds is more than half way there. Just aim a little higher

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    Roughly... 365!
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    Quote Originally Posted by boborgera View Post
    The longest shot/s i ever took was 335m at night with a Starlight scope and using the M14, And at the time
    [1965] You needed a security clearance to even handle that scope.
    But this week end i had the chance to shoot a M14 for the first time since 1966,
    Never had a chance at an M14 ... never even seen one up close that I recall; sounds sweet.

    My proudest, also longest, was with my 22-250 Mauser style, just after dawn and with a scope (don't recall the brand at the moment). Coyote in the pasture during calving season and our neighbor had cows in the pasture immediately to our south (the direction of shot). So, had to wait for the area behind the varmint to clear before I dared squeeze the trigger -- 250yds. And yes, Mr. Denman, I did hit him ... right through the heart, so he just fell over (something satisfying about seeing that happen).

    Curiously, I have yet to hear the "thump" that confirms contact with the target (unless it's one of our practice targets, those are metal) -- Spydercowboy says it's there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder_Cowgirl View Post
    Never had a chance at an M14 ... never even seen one up close that I recall; sounds sweet.

    My proudest, also longest, was with my 22-250 Mauser style, just after dawn and with a scope (don't recall the brand at the moment). Coyote in the pasture during calving season and our neighbor had cows in the pasture immediately to our south (the direction of shot). So, had to wait for the area behind the varmint to clear before I dared squeeze the trigger -- 250yds. And yes, Mr. Denman, I did hit him ... right through the heart, so he just fell over (something satisfying about seeing that happen).

    Curiously, I have yet to hear the "thump" that confirms contact with the target (unless it's one of our practice targets, those are metal) -- Spydercowboy says it's there.
    Nice shot.. I've bounced .22's off there noggin. there one tuff critter.

    As far as the "thump"..its there. Its easyer to hear on the farther shots as theres a slight delay between the report and the hit.
    It also depends on the traget. A paper target wont be as noticeable as say a jug filled with water.

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