New Recall Gas Cap Did Not Fix Gas SMell

[Y Rider]

The new gas cap didn't fix the gas fume smell so I went ahead and performed the canister removal mod. Took it out on 20 minute ride today with a full tank of fuel. Parked it in the garage and 15 minutes later had no gas smell. The real test will be this weekend when we go on a long enough ride that will heat the tank up enough to evaporate gas in the tank (boiling point).

[JJW SpyderRider]

Thanks Lamont, I am the original owner. 2010 RTS, but I've not recieved anything regarding a gas cap recall. Will check with my dealership. Thanks again.

I live in Northern Illinois and have not received anything yet but don't expect one at this time of year. Let BRP take care of those that are still riding, at least more than me, first. I have not had any issues with gas smell on ether of my Spyders.

[Trickie Dick]

I'm sure it's because of our tropical weather and everyone here in sunny Indiana is riding on a daily basis.
BTW, the only time I've had a fuel smell issue was when the weather was in the high 90's and I was ridng in stop and go traffic. So really, very few times. I've never considered it an issue.

[RTVIPER]

The replacement gas cap did the trick. No more gas fumes filling up the garage

[Anakrid46]

I have noted gas fumes coming from my 2012 RTS and it worries me a lot! Very strong on some days--I will let my dealer look into this next visit. I have looked for but never found any signs under the bike. I have noted that after rides in which I run fast I have more fumes after parking which leads me to think it may be the holding tank and plumbing at fault. Thanks to all for the input on this!

[ABQAndy]

At first I thought that the new gas cap cured the gas smell problem, not so. I took a long ride yesterday and parked in the garage. Went in the house for a few minutes and when I went back in the garage there was the strong gas smell again. Have to leave the garage open for an hour or so to clear the fumes. Wish there was a solution that the dealer could perform!!

[Bob Denman]

Andy,
Any chance that it was just a case of overfilling the fuel tank?

[Jeriatric]

At first I thought that the new gas cap cured the gas smell problem, not so. I took a long ride yesterday and parked in the garage. Went in the house for a few minutes and when I went back in the garage there was the strong gas smell again. Have leave the garage open for an hour or so clear the fumes. Wish there was a solution that the dealer could perform!!

Not saying this is your problem but I'm told there has been problems with purge valve failure. One would think if it fails to work, that would cause over vaporizing of the canister. That, in my thinking may cause the canister to foul. Emissions are a five year warranty item - if memory serves me

[Bob Denman]

So if I've got this figured right; there's about three reasons for fuel smells...
Leaky gas cap gasket
Bad purge valve
overfilling the tank...

Are there any others that come to mind?
The issue of the warranty is interesting...
If overfilling the tank ruins that canister; could that still be considered a warranty item?
After all; if you let it dry out well before calling the dealer; could they trace it back to owner error?

[JJW SpyderRider]

So if I've got this figured right; there's about three reasons for fuel smells...
Leaky gas cap gasket
Bad purge valve
overfilling the tank...

Are there any others that come to mind?
The issue of the warranty is interesting...
If overfilling the tank ruins that canister; could that still be considered a warranty item?
After all; if you let it dry out well before calling the dealer; could they trace it back to owner error?

Bob, You might add the leaking fitting on top of the gas tank.

[ABQAndy]

Bob,

No, I started on the ride yesterday with about 3/4 of a tank of gas and didn't refill after the ride. I also am fairly careful not to overfill the tank.

[cjackg]

Andy,
Any chance that it was just a case of overfilling the fuel tank?

This is the first question they ask when you report the problem to a dealer and looks to me like an effort to blame the owner and/or possibly avoid acknowledging there is a basic problem!
I never had this problem with my 2010 RT but had it from the 1st week with the 2012 RT and I never "overfilled" either one.

Something different with the 2012? The Canister & purge valve were replaced on the 2012 by my dealer and I have the new cap, but the problem is still there.
My dealer is consulting with BRP on the next step....

[Bob Denman]

That's an easy question to answer;
"No sir; I would never, EVER, EVER overfill a tank!"
Please keep us in the loop on what is found. Good Luck!

[Bob Ledford]

I think, I am really hoping, that the second replacement cap is a winner, Last Saturday i. was at the selling dealership browsing an made mention that my original replacement call was not working. I took it off for the service department CSR to look at and it was her recommendation to take a cap turned in by a former owner and try it over the weekend.

i am glad that I did!!!!!

[Only1Pooh]

I have a RS SE5 2012. I have no gas smell, I will take the gas cap if I get one but I will just keep it as an extra, Why mess with it. So far no problems with my Spyder dont want to mess with the mojo

I have the same model and year too Tazzel and I didn't have any gas smell either ... But after seeing some posts about fires starting with or without any indication / warning ... I did change out to the New gas cap that came from BRP.

[OneBadPenny]

We did not have any gas fume smell with the old gas caps --
We received the new ones for the RSS and RTS and dutifully put them on.
Went on 2 different rides and the gas smell was overwhelming in the garage both times.
Put the old gas caps back on to test if there was any fumes and amazingly, there was absolutely none.
What's up with that? Frustrated.

[spydeyblue]

We own a 2012 RT-S, and we've started having the same problem with strong gasoline odors, and liquid gasoline dripping from the evap cannister overflow line, after a long ride, and a nearly empty gas tank. After reading many posts on this forum, we know better than to even come close to overfilling our gas tank. We took our Spyder to the dealership a few weeks ago, and all they did was replace the evap cannister. As soon as we rode our Spyder home from the dealership, the evap cannister overflow line was dripping gasoline again, so obviously, the cannister wasn't the only problem. My guess, after reading the technical manual, and lots of posts on this forum, is the purge valve has failed. We're taking our Spyder back to the dealership again, and I'm going to insist they troubleshoot the blasted purge valve, this time around, not just throw another cannister at the problem. If the purge valve isn't broken, then my guess is the vapor recovery system design itself is flawed, somehow. If so, BRP needs to fix the problem, ASAP, with a voluntary recall. California is pretty harsh, when it comes to vehicle emission violations, so BRP would be much better off handling the problem themselves, before Sacramento finds out about it!


Sincerely,
Paul and Linda

[Bob Denman]

I think, I am really hoping, that the second replacement cap is a winner, Last Saturday i. was at the selling dealership browsing an made mention that my original replacement call was not working. I took it off for the service department CSR to look at and it was her recommendation to take a cap turned in by a former owner and try it over the weekend.

Bob,

Any improvement?

[jmcbow]

These are being distributed in somebody's idea of accordance with riding season. Michigan hasn't been notified yet, either. Be patient!

Recieved mine yesterday, I guess their not shipping these "in accordance with the riding season" as there is a foot of snow on the ground here.

[NancysToy]

Recieved mine yesterday, I guess their not shipping these "in accordance with the riding season" as there is a foot of snow on the ground here.

Yea, we got ours yesterday, too. Maybe they know something we don't?

[Bob Denman]

Perhaps they're forecasting an early Spring???

[Bob Ledford]

Bob,

Any improvement?

I went out on Sat. For about 60 mile ride average temperature was in the low seventies came he pulled in the garage, went through a short idle period, while I set the PB and killed it with the key switch. No immediate odors present. Anne came in and said, you need to smell the garage! It just reeked of boiling fuel odors. Turned on the fan and raised the garage door a foot. Took about an hour to clear the air.

Did the same thing on Sunday but no odors emitted.

Did the same thing on Monday no orders emitted. Tank is showing half capacity now.

Tuesday took a short three miler to the dealership to meet a friend from AL, went to lunch another two mile trip after lunch retraced the route and when I turned the Spyder off the gas odors were excessive..

Needless to say I was really discouraged by it all. Plan on going to the dealership in a bit if it does not rain in the meantime.

[Bob Denman]

There is nothing more frustrating, than a problem that rears it's head "intermittently".
The purge valve is sticking once in a while??

Make sure that they're aware that it's not doing it all of the time... Good Luck!

[Bob Ledford]

[QUOTE=OneBadPenny;569667]We did not have any gas fume smell with the old gas caps --
We received the new ones for the RSS and RTS and dutifully put them on.
Went on 2 different rides and the gas smell was overwhelming in the garage both times.
Put the old gas caps back on to test if there was any fumes and amazingly, there was absolutely none.
What's up with that? Frustrated.[/QUOTE


i wish I had your problem and you had mine. I am on number two cap and the problem is worse then the original compliant. 2011 RTL. 3,000 miles Aug 2011 new.

[Bob Ledford]

It went back in the shop this afternoon for a canister MRI!!!!!