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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    Which one Lamont? Are you saying that the RT is not the same at all? Do I need to find some $$ for a new Spyder?
    Yes, he said they all received the updated shocks and geometry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattigan_Roger View Post
    Warning this post may contain an unpopular opinion.
    While I find the new ST very nice, I'm really at a loss as to what niche it is supposed to fill.
    The distinction between the RS and RT was clear but the purpose of the ST seems unclear, at least to me.
    It has a frunk?


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    Any way to enter the contest other than Facebook?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Yes, he said they all received the updated shocks and geometry.
    Well Elkas and a Ron Sway bar will still cost less than a new RT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattigan_Roger View Post
    Warning this post may contain an unpopular opinion.
    While I find the new ST very nice, I'm really at a loss as to what niche it is supposed to fill.
    The distinction between the RS and RT was clear but the purpose of the ST seems unclear, at least to me.
    Roger, I was secretly hoping the ST was for super tour as in an upgrade to the RT with bigger powerplant and shaft drive...... Oh well I wasnt gonna upgrade no matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ga Blue Knight View Post
    Well Elkas and a Ron Sway bar will still cost less than a new RT!



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    Anyone hear of app price for the ST?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattigan_Roger View Post
    I guess it does and if you trick it out with rear saddlebags you can have nearly the storage capacity of an RT for just a little more money than an RT.
    Makes perfect sense to me........scratches head


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    I do like the additions to the RT, vented windshield, floorboards for the driver, wheels, adjustable air wing. Hoping they can be added to existing models. Just not enough to upgrade, but nice additions. Like how the RT-S has the blacked out treatment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    Which one Lamont? Are you saying that the RT is not the same at all? Do I need to find some $$ for a new Spyder?
    All the Spyders including the RT have a new frame, new brakes (Brembo), redesigned suspension, next gen BOSCH ABS system, larger wheels (15")

    And there is a fully adjustable handlebar for the RT and I mean fully. You have three bolts that will allow you to move the bars in or out and forward or back. There's a new vented windshield and new adjustable side vents. Trust me it's not the same animal. I rode as hard as I could and had a hard time kicking in the VSS.

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    Default And from the floor of the unveiling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattigan_Roger View Post
    Warning this post may contain an unpopular opinion.
    While I find the new ST very nice, I'm really at a loss as to what niche it is supposed to fill.
    The distinction between the RS and RT was clear but the purpose of the ST seems unclear, at least to me.
    I would guess that the target is someone who wants to do some touring but still wants the sportiness of the RS. The ST weighs about 100 pounds les than the RT so it should have a little more oomph. It gives you the seating position of the RT which is attractive to more people than the "ninja" style seating of the RS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    All the Spyders including the RT have a new frame, new brakes (Brembo), redesigned suspension, next gen BOSCH ABS system, larger wheels (15")

    And there is a fully adjustable handlebar for the RT and I mean fully. You have three bolts that will allow you to move the bars in or out and forward or back. There's a new vented windshield and new adjustable side vents. Trust me it's not the same animal. I rode as hard as I could and had a hard time kicking in the VSS.
    Maybe a list of updated features for the RS and RT is in order.


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    I think the ST is going to reach that market that think the RT is for the older retired guy and the RS is not good enough for touring.

    It will be for the concourse 14 and Honda ST1300 market.

    They have a nice line up now, RS for the sporty folk out there, ST for the sports tourers that want to do weekend away and the RT's for the Goldwing folks that want to do some long distance touring.

    For me the RT is still the right model but I know a few that have looked at mine on bike nights and would drool over the ST.

    I will test ride the new RT when I can but would have to be a lot different for me to upgrade, I'm very pleased with my current RT Limited.

    Nice to see them do some thing to move forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclelover63 View Post
    Anyone hear of app price for the ST?

    post number 22

    http://www.spyder.brp.com/spyder-st/st-limited/detail

    the STS limited is $24,599

    STS $20.099

    St $18.899

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrypottar View Post
    I think the ST is going to reach that market that think the RT is for the older retired guy and the RS is not good enough for touring.

    It will be for the concourse 14 and Honda ST1300 market.

    They have a nice line up now, RS for the sporty folk out there, ST for the sports tourers that want to do weekend away and the RT's for the Goldwing folks that want to do some long distance touring.

    For me the RT is still the right model but I know a few that have looked at mine on bike nights and would drool over the ST.

    I will test ride the new RT when I can but would have to be a lot different for me to upgrade, I'm very pleased with my current RT Limited.

    Nice to see them do some thing to move forward.

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    Does the RT shake at 45 mph?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    BRP never hyped up a bigger engine. The people on this forum did that. Basically everyone hyped up their fantasy about the engine, starting multiple threads and posts about it over the last 2 months, only to let themselves and others down by their own imagination. Saying we were "expecting" a bigger engine had nothing to do with BRP leading people on, but rather the customers placing their fantasy on BRP.
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    Some of us RS owners said how we would like to ride the RT to Spyderfest but have the RS to ride while there. The ST makes the perfect combo. The luxuries of the RT with the sportier look of the RS. I can see the RS becoming extinct in the next year or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattigan_Roger View Post
    I guess the problem with me is that I'm out of their target demographic.

    Hell, I'm out of everyone's target demographic......
    Hell, I guess I am too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattigan_Roger View Post
    I guess the problem with me is that I'm out of their target demographic.

    Hell, I'm out of everyone's target demographic......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattigan_Roger View Post
    Yeah, The Spyder CT, with a trunk large enough to be buried in.
    CT=coffin trunk


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    While I understand the changes Lamont mentioned I do not see better mpg or performance. Must just be me but I am not all that excited about the new models. Yes, they look cool, but I fear the same old issues as before. I will have to wait and see what real life does bring out. Announcement are all about hype.... Not biting just yet.


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    I figured someone would rave about the yellow in the RT lineup, had seen lots of people say they would like that in past.

    I think that dark purple may be the one I like most. have to see one in person on that.
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