Check Engine Light came on AGAIN today ... Bike is shaking and clanging WTH???

[Flight Risk]

I had a big ride planned today with my MC. I start the engine and Bam!!! Big orange check engine light AGAIN (took it into the shop for this 1 1/2 weeks ago) and this time the bike is making lots of bad noise, clanging and shaking. I turned it off immediately, pulled the key and walked away for about a minute. Tried to start it again and the same thing but this time I put it into reverse and it was ever worse, pulled out of the garage just a few feet and put it into first and barely got it back into the garage.
I will call the dealership tomorrow. Will have to have it towed in..............WTH???? The only other problem I have had with it was bad guages and those were replaced a good while ago.
I have my oil changed on time.............
I am really pi$$ed off now......... Afraid this is going to be bad!

Any ideas?

[Lamonster]

My guess is its the throttle body.

[NancysToy]

Without the failure codes, it is hard to say what is going on. Could be a bad plug wire, could be a bad throttle body, could be an ECM problem, or could be something esle. The check engine light is just the end result. Your dealer should be able to sort it out...if he will pick it up or you can get it to him. If you have the extended warranty, the road service should help. Sorry about the ride having to be cancelled.

[Jeriatric]

I had a big ride planned today with my MC. I start the engine and Bam!!! Big orange check engine light AGAIN (took it into the shop for this 1 1/2 weeks ago) and this time the bike is making lots of bad noise, clanging and shaking. I turned it off immediately, pulled the key and walked away for about a minute. Tried to start it again and the same thing but this time I put it into reverse and it was ever worse, pulled out of the garage just a few feet and put it into first and barely got it back into the garage.
I will call the dealership tomorrow. Will have to have it towed in..............WTH???? The only other problem I have had with it was bad guages and those were replaced a good while ago.
I have my oil changed on time.............
I am really pi$$ed off now......... Afraid this is going to be bad!

Any ideas?

Did it throw any codes?



How to check for codes.

Turn key on, then.

Lay your left thumb across both the "Mode" and "Set" Buttons - while holding them down
push your turn signal button in.

The main screen should bring up codes.

Write them down, then hit "Mode" one last time to get back to the home screen.

Post codes and we can check them for you.

Hate to hear you're having an issue.

[Flight Risk]

Jerbear, I did what you said and this is what came up P1614

Lamonster, it does sound like the video you posted.

What additionally ticks me off is just last Friday week ago, the engine light came on...I called the dealership and they said it was okay to ride it in and they would look at it immediately. According to their computer hook up, it needed two bud updates, TCM and ECM? I have only ridden it about 35 miles or so after the dealership so this happened with it just sitting in the garage.........

What does that code mean??

(A million thanks to ya'll for this insight and help)

[Jeriatric]

Jerbear, I did what you said and this is what came up P1614

Lamonster, it does sound like the video you posted.

What additionally ticks me off is just last Friday week ago, the engine light came on...I called the dealership and they said it was okay to ride it in and they would look at it immediately. According to their computer hook up, it needed two bud updates, TCM and ECM? I have only ridden it about 35 miles or so after the dealership so this happened with it just sitting in the garage.........

What does that code mean??

(A million thanks to ya'll for this insight and help)

ECM - throttle idle position failure on throttle release.

Dealer fix.

Sorry!

[Flight Risk]

[QUOTE=Jerbear;519216]ECM - throttle idle position failure on throttle release.

Dealer fix.

Sorry! [/QUOTE

ECM was updated as was TCM two Friday's back. I don't understand.............***sigh***

[NancysToy]

[QUOTE=Fliight Risk;519253]

ECM - throttle idle position failure on throttle release.

Dealer fix.

Sorry! [/QUOTE

ECM was updated as was TCM two Friday's back. I don't understand.............***sigh***

Some seem to fail anyway, possibly from damage prior to the update. Some were not replaced at the time of the update, despite being called for in the service bulletin if codes have appeared. In either case, your throttle body needs to be replaced.

[schnauzermom]

Happened to me 2 wks ago. Same code, same symptoms. Throttle body failure. Did you say 2011? If so shd be covered under warranty. Worst part was waiting 5 days for part. Good news runs better than ever. Make sure you get 3rd and latest upgrade for throttle body if you haven't already when they replace it. Good luck.

[Mr. White]

Had the same problem. ECM went out and repalced....did not fix the problem. Repalced the throttle body...fixed.

[Bob Denman]

P1614... That would be the throttle body's swan song...
Sorry...
I've been having a running hatchet-fight with my bike: P1120 & P2620 keep shutting things down at the most interesting moments possible!
Getting it back to the dealer next Month... but writing everything down in the interim!

[Flight Risk]

To answer one question, yes 2011 RTS SE5

Called the dealership first thing Monday morning. Man answering says he will call me right back. I called them back 5 hours later....the slow burn is turning into a low boil. If I want them to pick up the bike it will be Friday before they can get someone to me as they are "a man down on Tuesday and Thursday". Wondering what the heck that has to do with Monday? They are always a man down on Tuesday and Thursday.

Might also use this time to put on the new oil panel and count my miles and see if it's oil change time.

arrrrrgggggggggg

[Flight Risk]

Called my dealer today to make sure they were picking up my bike tomorrow. We chatted, I inquired about a loner so I could go on the great ride this weekend. Just for the hell of it, I put the key in and the bike had no "check engine" lights, started it up and there was no clanging noise, idle was perfect!!! WTH?
I'm taking it in tomorrow after the gun range and they will hook it back up to see what the heck is going on.

My question is after the bike was just sitting in my garage this week, how did it miraculously stop throwing the engine light and stop banging???

[ARtraveler]

They do that sometimes. I call it the computer getting the flu. Please keep us posted on how they resolve the situation.

[Schnauzer]

AI..artificial intellegence this thing has more onboard computers than most computer geeks carry around in their pockets/car/closet..

[NancysToy]

The throttle positioner can do that. The problem will become more frequent, until it fails altogether. It will need a throttle body, but you may be able to buy some time. If you do ride it while waiting for parts, I hope you have road service, just in case.

[Flight Risk]

The throttle positioner can do that. The problem will become more frequent, until it fails altogether. It will need a throttle body, but you may be able to buy some time. If you do ride it while waiting for parts, I hope you have road service, just in case.

I know this will sound stupid, but a throttle body is an actual part, yes?

[NancysToy]

I know this will sound stupid, but a throttle body is an actual part, yes?

Yes, think of it as the carburetor. It serves the same basic function. The throttle positioner is part of the throttle body assembly, and is not available separately.

[bruiser]

Throttle body fuel injected engines use a throttle position sensor (TPS) to send a signal back to the engine control module (ECM). The ECM then knows what amount of fuel to send to the mixer for that position. As Scotty said, this is a part of the throttle body so the whole assembly needs to be replaced. Tunnel port injected engines... Never mind, I don't want to confuse you.

[bruiser]

My guess is its the throttle body.

Dang, that thing sounds really rough.

[Flight Risk]

Rode my bike to the dealership today. Of course it was acting perfectly. They hooked it up......cleared the code, updated the software. They took it for a short test drive and handed it back to me.

I am riding around 250 miles tomorrow with friends. Yes I do have roadside assistance. This sucks not knowing if it is "fixed" or just patched. They could not duplicate the clanging/banging/check engine.

OYE! Say a little prayer.

[rhansen309]

Dang, that thing sounds really rough.

From one AF guy to another - I like your helmet!!!

[Jeriatric]

Is it a patch? You'll be the first to know.

Be safe, have a great ride and hope it doesn't act up on you.

[Farmboy]

Rode my bike to the dealership today. Of course it was acting perfectly. They hooked it up......cleared the code, updated the software. They took it for a short test drive and handed it back to me.

I am riding around 250 miles tomorrow with friends. Yes I do have roadside assistance. This sucks not knowing if it is "fixed" or just patched. They could not duplicate the clanging/banging/check engine.

OYE! Say a little prayer.

Sorry to say but... "It will happen again". According to A dealer in MO. 1 code is all it takes BRP says to change the throttle body out. Have your dealer to check his memo that he never read. I lost most of my summer riding be couse my dealer would "reset" with buds and shove it out the door. week later I would have to bring it back in...again, and again. I went to another dealer in MO. 400 miles away and they repaired it right the first time by changing the throttle body.

[NancysToy]

Sorry to say but... "It will happen again". According to A dealer in MO. 1 code is all it takes BRP says to change the throttle body out. Have your dealer to check his memo that he never read. I lost most of my summer riding be couse my dealer would "reset" with buds and shove it out the door. week later I would have to bring it back in...again, and again. I went to another dealer in MO. 400 miles away and they repaired it right the first time by changing the throttle body.

The service bulletin specifies changing out the throttle body if any of four throttle body related codes appear.