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Question about checking the oil level
Pardon me if this has already been asked.
I recently bought a 2008 GS on ebay. When I went to check the oil (cold) there was nothing showing on the dipstick (I did screw it all the way in before checking). I added about 2/3 qt. Amsoil and that brought the cold level up to around halfway between the ADD and FULL mark. Then I drove it around a few miles to heat the oil up. When I checked it again right after shutting down, I noticed the oil was all bubbly and was somewhat above the FULL mark. After letting it settle for about 5-10 minutes, the bubbles are gone and it shows about 1/4 inch above the FULL mark. My questions:
- is the bubbly look normal when just shutting down, or does this indicate way too much oil?
- is it worth sucking out that 1/4 inch to bring it back to the FULL mark, or is that not that big a deal?
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Check the manual on the procedure - the oil is checked HOT on the RT (assume the same on the RS).
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You should be fine and bubbling immediately after shut down is normal, just let them dissipate before checking.
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A Spyder requires you to check the oil while the engine is at operating temp. A Spyder uses a dry sump oil system. When cold you will normally get little or no oil on the dip stick because the oil is kept in a secondary reservoir and does not get into the dipstick area until the engine is running. I would suggest you check your oil when you get back from your ride. As to whether you should suck out the excess oil I think I would but it would be better to check with your dealer or wait until on of the gurus here chime in as I am still a very newbie myself.
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Originally Posted by spyryder
You should be fine and bubbling immediately after shut down is normal, just let them dissipate before checking.
Thanks - glad to hear it's nothing I need to worry about. I'd rather ride my new toy, than have to work on it at this point.
BTW, I noticed your sig line says "'08 silver SM5 pe#3550 of 2500" - how does that work? I'm wondering if that should read #355, in which case it was built very close to mine - #331
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Originally Posted by SequiMike
Thanks - glad to hear it's nothing I need to worry about. I'd rather ride my new toy, than have to work on it at this point.
BTW, I noticed your sig line says "'08 silver SM5 pe#3550 of 2500" - how does that work? I'm wondering if that should read #355, in which case it was built very close to mine - #331
No that's an old joke...they were only supposed to make 2500 premier editions. I think they wound up making around 3700.
(and PE's are worth way more!)
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I had an 08 bubbling/foaming is normal right after a hot shut down, Wait 30 sec or so to check the level.
If in fact the oil is too high [check it again hot With dipstick screwed in] You might want to take some out to avoid blow bye.
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Originally Posted by SequiMike
Pardon me if this has already been asked.
I recently bought a 2008 GS on ebay. When I went to check the oil (cold) there was nothing showing on the dipstick (I did screw it all the way in before checking). I added about 2/3 qt. Amsoil and that brought the cold level up to around halfway between the ADD and FULL mark. Then I drove it around a few miles to heat the oil up. When I checked it again right after shutting down, I noticed the oil was all bubbly and was somewhat above the FULL mark. After letting it settle for about 5-10 minutes, the bubbles are gone and it shows about 1/4 inch above the FULL mark. My questions:
- is the bubbly look normal when just shutting down, or does this indicate way too much oil?
- is it worth sucking out that 1/4 inch to bring it back to the FULL mark, or is that not that big a deal?
I recommend you take your new 08 to a dealer and ask them to plug in the BUDS computer to see what updates have been done to the Spyder. Don't take anyone's word for this. There are a couple of updates that are very important for your safety. Make sure you have the latest model power steering unit (DPS) and make sure there is a long vent hose on the evaporation canister. I am pretty sure BRP will pay for these changes, if they have not been done, because they are safety related.
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Originally Posted by WaltH
I recommend you take your new 08 to a dealer and ask them to plug in the BUDS computer to see what updates have been done to the Spyder. Don't take anyone's word for this. There are a couple of updates that are very important for your safety. Make sure you have the latest model power steering unit (DPS) and make sure there is a long vent hose on the evaporation canister. I am pretty sure BRP will pay for these changes, if they have not been done, because they are safety related.
Thanks for the heads-up! The closest dealer is about an hour away, but I have to head down that way to take the road test on the 25th. I'll ask them to take a look at it then.
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This is my opinion based on 55,000 miles with two GS's. Check the oil when it is hot. Not warmed up but hot like after running a while. See the manual. Never add more than will bring it to half way up the dip stick.
Why: Any excess oil will blow more oil up into the air box. This is not a problem in itself but it will eventually leak down and get on the engine and then on the floor. It will either make you think you have an oil leak or mask an oil leak or other issue. I have added a piece of air cleaner foam to my return line to stop this from happening and it seems to work. I have also used the catch can method but that never worked very well for me although others have great success with it..
And you do need to get hooked to BUDS and have it checked out especially the DPS thing. If your DPS has not been repaired I would see to that immediately.
Have fun with it.
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Originally Posted by Recluze
This is my opinion based on 55,000 miles with two GS's. Check the oil when it is hot. Not warmed up but hot like after running a while. See the manual. Never add more than will bring it to half way up the dip stick.
Why: Any excess oil will blow more oil up into the air box. This is not a problem in itself but it will eventually leak down and get on the engine and then on the floor. It will either make you think you have an oil leak or mask an oil leak or other issue. I have added a piece of air cleaner foam to my return line to stop this from happening and it seems to work. I have also used the catch can method but that never worked very well for me although others have great success with it..
And you do need to get hooked to BUDS and have it checked out especially the DPS thing. If your DPS has not been repaired I would see to that immediately.
Have fun with it.
The glass is half full.
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