Driving on military base

[johnwinslow]

i went to Fort Lenard Wood during Spyderfest this year to see my grandson, and had no problem. no vest, gloves, helmet, my gps took me in the back gate and right to his barracks. the base was very nice and fuel was cheap, He is in Hawii now, so i will not take the Spyder there unless someone knows where the bridge is.

[Motorcycledave]

It's the same for all the armed services yo have to have Helmet, gloves, leather hightop shoes or boots
eye protection, (windshield does not count) insurance, motorcycle drivers lic. (if it's a bike) if it's a trike and
your state requires a motorcycle lic. or Trike lic. then you have to have one. Some military bases have additional rules
such as reflective vest and reflective markings/stripes on your helmet. and ALL require the MSF card. If on a Navy base
contact the Command Master Chief and his office will arrange for you to take the course if you have not do so, Army, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard are all similar.
Yea I'm retired Navy,
Dave

[wyliec]

Motorcycledave,

Does a face shield on a full face helmet count for eye protection? Or, is that another thing that is base by base?

[Boriken]

to your son on his graduation and please thank him on my behalf for his service.

[JCSMOKE]

to your son on his graduation and please thank him on my behalf for his service.

Will do

[bruiser]

Motorcycledave,

Does a face shield on a full face helmet count for eye protection? Or, is that another thing that is base by base?

Yes it does, DoD wide.

[bruiser]

i went to Fort Lenard Wood during Spyderfest this year to see my grandson, and had no problem. no vest, gloves, helmet, my gps took me in the back gate and right to his barracks. the base was very nice and fuel was cheap, He is in Hawii now, so i will not take the Spyder there unless someone knows where the bridge is.

The gate guard must have been asleep.

[bruiser]

When I was teaching on Fort Richardson (now joint base Elemendorf/Richardson) I had to have military ID, (drivers license and insurance pre-checked for the military ID), helmet, and flourescent vest. Now, it appears they let them wear a flourescent strap instead of the full vest.

I was on the base teaching, a year ago.

It depends on the base commander.

[CMA Cowboy]

Fort Leonard Wood does not require the reflective vest or belt during day light hours now. You do have to have DOD helmet, long sleeve, long pants, over the ankle footware and eye protection other than a windshield.

[bruiser]

The Air Force is the only service that requires retroflouresent reflective upper outer garment both day and night. I just found out that on joint bases, that is USAF/Army only USAF personnel are required to wear the vest. Army is exempt because they come under Army motorcycle regs. DoD sets the standards and each service ignores it and sets their own. Ok, not really, but sure seems like it. I'm glad I'm retired.

[LLSailor]

The gate guard at Fort Leavenworth today told me that the reflective items are not required during daylight, as I came on post with my bright yellow vest over my long sleeve shirt.

[bone crusher]

My wife is active duty army doctor...I have a military ID as her spouse...so, getting on is quite easy (just show that to them) for me. As far as requirements for anything gear goes, I can assure you that they're not enforced.

The security doesn't care what you're wearing (provided you're wearing what's required in the state). All they care about is who you are and do you have permission to be on the base.

I've been on Walter Reed/Bethesda Naval (naval base) multiple times on the Spyder...never an issue at all...I've been in shorts, sneakers, etc... The military has about 500 billion pages of useless requirements for everything...it is unlikely that any security guard at a base has viewed anything motorcycle related...their job is to protect the base, not worry about your garb...

[Bob Denman]

Soooo... They ain't the fashion police??

[bruiser]

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I've been on Walter Reed/Bethesda Naval (naval base) multiple times on the Spyder...never an issue at all...I've been in shorts, sneakers, etc... The military has about 500 billion pages of useless requirements for everything...it is unlikely that any security guard at a base has viewed anything motorcycle related...their job is to protect the base, not worry about your garb...[/QUOTE]

WOW that's quite a generalized statement and wrong too. Try getting on Ft. Bragg, Seymour Johnson AFB, Cherry Point MCAS, Camp Lejeune MCB, New River Air Station, Langley AFB, Norfolk Navy Base, without the DoD required attire. You won't make it past the gate, spouse of an officer or not. I've ridden with the PGR on military installations and those rules are enforced. By the way, I have a military ID, 20 years in the USAF, and I had to get a 50 state background check, a letter from my company, have valid state drivers license and insurance and a valid vehicle registration just to work on equipment at Cherry Point MCAS. I was told there by the pass and ID folks that my ID didn't count for anything, I had to follow their rules. The bottom line here, comply with the regs set up by the DoD and command be they Army, Navy, what ever. Each base may be different as to their requirments and they'll let you know when you hit the gate. We're

[bone crusher]

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I've been on Walter Reed/Bethesda Naval (naval base) multiple times on the Spyder...never an issue at all...I've been in shorts, sneakers, etc... The military has about 500 billion pages of useless requirements for everything...it is unlikely that any security guard at a base has viewed anything motorcycle related...their job is to protect the base, not worry about your garb...

WOW that's quite a generalized statement and wrong too. Try getting on Ft. Bragg, Seymour Johnson AFB, Cherry Point MCAS, Camp Lejeune MCB, New River Air Station, Langley AFB, Norfolk Navy Base, without the DoD required attire. You won't make it past the gate, spouse of an officer or not. I've ridden with the PGR on military installations and those rules are enforced. By the way, I have a military ID, 20 years in the USAF, and I had to get a 50 state background check, a letter from my company, have valid state drivers license and insurance and a valid vehicle registration just to work on equipment at Cherry Point MCAS. I was told there by the pass and ID folks that my ID didn't count for anything, I had to follow their rules. The bottom line here, comply with the regs set up by the DoD and command be they Army, Navy, what ever. Each base may be different as to their requirments and they'll let you know when you hit the gate. We're[/QUOTE]



Wrong? I've been on Walter Reed (before it closed), Bethesda Naval, Fort Belvoir, Andrews, etc...I don't think we need to compare base numbers here...I have more to list... Maybe I just look better? I've never had to show anything other than a military ID...and that is the way all the bases are going anyway...new info from DOD on that.

I think you could call the base and they'd give you a whole list of things but I don't think the people at the gates know that information and they're more concerned about the safety of the base than pulling you and your spyder aside to make sure your socks are the proper length. Being they are going away from base stickers, I think they're gonna be sticking to the basics as that is what will keep the bases safe...

BTW, thank you for your 20 years in the USAF...

[Oldmanzues]

I am with a Base Riding Club. DOD puts out the basic requirements, DOT helment, long sleeves, over the ankle boots, gloves and eye protection. Then the service add their and Bases add more.
I believe DOD states only active duty must have a M/C course and if a civilian rides a motorcycle in performance of his/her duties, they have to have one. The performance of duty is a mess.If you ride to a meeting on Base, is that part of your duty and so on.
At one time, the regs said, a jacket must be a contrasting color. Nobody on high could tell us, what the contrast was between. Now most say hi viz of some sort or vest.
I received DR for 578 ) Discrepency Report) in the distant past for Wearing a helmet while in uniform. Eglin AFB, Fla had a Air Police mortorcycle unit. They had to issue a reg to allow the riders to wear helmets. I was there 1955 to 1959.
Best advice to call the base/post to find out.
Oldmanzues

[bruiser]

WOW that's quite a generalized statement and wrong too. Try getting on Ft. Bragg, Seymour Johnson AFB, Cherry Point MCAS, Camp Lejeune MCB, New River Air Station, Langley AFB, Norfolk Navy Base, without the DoD required attire. You won't make it past the gate, spouse of an officer or not. I've ridden with the PGR on military installations and those rules are enforced. By the way, I have a military ID, 20 years in the USAF, and I had to get a 50 state background check, a letter from my company, have valid state drivers license and insurance and a valid vehicle registration just to work on equipment at Cherry Point MCAS. I was told there by the pass and ID folks that my ID didn't count for anything, I had to follow their rules. The bottom line here, comply with the regs set up by the DoD and command be they Army, Navy, what ever. Each base may be different as to their requirments and they'll let you know when you hit the gate. We're

Wrong? I've been on Walter Reed (before it closed), Bethesda Naval, Fort Belvoir, Andrews, etc...I don't think we need to compare base numbers here...I have more to list... Maybe I just look better? I've never had to show anything other than a military ID...and that is the way all the bases are going anyway...new info from DOD on that.

I think you could call the base and they'd give you a whole list of things but I don't think the people at the gates know that information and they're more concerned about the safety of the base than pulling you and your spyder aside to make sure your socks are the proper length. Being they are going away from base stickers, I think they're gonna be sticking to the basics as that is what will keep the bases safe...

BTW, thank you for your 20 years in the USAF...[/QUOTE]

[bone crusher]

Wrong? I've been on Walter Reed (before it closed), Bethesda Naval, Fort Belvoir, Andrews, etc...I don't think we need to compare base numbers here...I have more to list... Maybe I just look better? I've never had to show anything other than a military ID...and that is the way all the bases are going anyway...new info from DOD on that.

I think you could call the base and they'd give you a whole list of things but I don't think the people at the gates know that information and they're more concerned about the safety of the base than pulling you and your spyder aside to make sure your socks are the proper length. Being they are going away from base stickers, I think they're gonna be sticking to the basics as that is what will keep the bases safe...

BTW, thank you for your 20 years in the USAF...

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You really like beating dead horses, I see!

[hansensmomx2]

Just be extra careful. Remember all those parents who have rented cars and don't know where they are going, excited to see their kid. Congrats and thank your son for his service.

I have a son who will be graduating basic training with the Air Force in September, his base is Lackland AFB in Texas. What are the requirements for the Spyder on base? I have read that there needs to be a motorcycle safety card along with drivers license, insurance, and registration. Any help will be appreciated.

[JCSMOKE]

Just be extra careful. Remember all those parents who have rented cars and don't know where they are going, excited to see their kid. Congrats and thank your son for his service.

I will be keeping my head on swivel overdrive for sure, if I put a light on my helmet I might be pulling folks over.

[bo9roadking]

I agree with what Bruiser said regarding motorcycle riding on a military installation. I'm retired USAF and currently work on Lackland AFB as a govt civilian. When I ride my spyder on base, I need a valid driver's license with motorcycle endorsement, valid insurance and the required safety gear.

The gear includes helmet, eye protection or a visor on the helmet, gloves that cover the fingers, long pants, long sleeve shirt or jacket (my jacket is neon yellow), boots that cover the ankles (I've gotten away with shoes while on my spyder, but not while on my HD), and a hi-vis vest or sash if your jacket or long sleeve shirt isn't hi-vis (I've seen active duty wearing a hi-vis a green or orange sash diagonally across their shoulder while in uniform on the bike). I have a MC safety foundation card from when I was active duty, but nobody has asked me for it as a civilian.

There are no vehicle stickers on USAF installations because everyone has their ID checked at the gate. If you don't have a vaild DOD ID, you will need to get a base pass at the visitor's center before you can drive on base. Some gate guards enforce the rules more than others, so your mileage will vary on what you can get away with regarding the wear of motorcycle safety gear. If you don't have all of the mentioned safety gear, you might still get on. If you have a guard that enforces the rules, you will get turned away.

[JCSMOKE]

Thanks for the heads up

[bruiser]

I will be keeping my head on swivel overdrive for sure, if I put a light on my helmet I might be pulling folks over.

Only if it's a blue light. Or some might argue for a red light.

[bruiser]

There are no vehicle stickers on USAF installations because everyone has their ID checked at the gate. If you don't have a vaild DOD ID, you will need to get a base pass at the visitor's center before you can drive on base.]

Thanks Bro. USAF did away with base stickers several years ago. The other branches still use them. One of our riding group went to Cherry Point MCAS last summer, he was in his cage since he had his family with him headed to the coast. He wanted to stop at the PX, he showed his ID at the gate and was told he needed a pass. He went to pass and ID to get one. After waiting in line he went up to the counter and requested a pass. He was turned away because he had on shorts, sleeveless shirt and flip flops. The policy at that base is no service without proper clothing. Now that's rediculous. Man, haven't been to Lackland since basic in 1969. Flew in to Kelly late '73 to pick up one of our F4s that had mechanical issues. That was as close as I got. Thanks for your service Bro.