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    Question I don't get it.

    Every year, for the past 4 years, about this time there is thread after thread about heat issues. First. it was on the GS, then the RS and now for the past 2 years, on the RT. Heck Spyderpops has made a living dealing with this problem. What I don't understand, is why doesn't BRP solve this problem? Why do they continue to put out a product that they know has this issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickie Dick View Post
    What I don't understand, is why doesn't BRP solve this problem? Why do they continue to put out a product that they know has this issue
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    But there may also be more truth in that statement than anybody will care to admit!
    Product developement time can take quite a while... Perhaps the "next" RT and RS will have it sorted out.
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    Heck its all the products.. I sell the Can am ATVs which I believe are the best.. But they have always had a heating issue,, Some one the other day said its because of all the torque the engine creates,, Yes I want the heat issues resolved,, No I don't want to loose torque lol

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    As much as I'd like to see the heat go away, it has to go somewhere.

    I was out for a walk yesterday and as I was walking past a parked car that had the engine running, I could feel the heat radiating out from it. Since the passengers were in the car, I'm sure they had the AC running and didn't notice the heat.

    The spyder is not so fortunate. It isn't enclosed and it doesn't have AC. I just installed SpyderPops cat-shield and lower block-off plate on my RT. I haven't had a chance to see how effective it is, but I'm hoping that I can at least get the heat to go somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Neutron View Post
    Heck its all the products.. I sell the Can am ATVs which I believe are the best.. But they have always had a heating issue,, Some one the other day said its because of all the torque the engine creates,, Yes I want the heat issues resolved,, No I don't want to loose torque lol
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    And the bike STILL will get warm on low-speed passes in the mountains!
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    Get real guys your sitting on an internal combustion engine, Its gotta generate heat, I can remember two bikes off hand that i had that generated more heat than my Spyder. [Sv650 and a Hayabusa]
    Sure Brp could change the engine layout, get rid of the panel's and turn it into a naked trike but after looking at that monstrously would you have bought one.

    And think about it, In the winter heat is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boborgera View Post
    Get real guys your sitting on an internal combustion engine, Its gotta generate heat, I can remember two bikes off hand that i had that generated more heat than my Spyder. [Sv650 and a Hayabusa]
    Sure Brp could change the engine layout, get rid of the panel's and turn it into a naked trike but after looking at that monstrously would you have bought one.

    And think about it, In the winter heat is good.


    I don't get how everyone is so dumbfounded by the heat. Not to be rude, but those who complain must not have ever ridden a 2-wheeler. All engines get hot, the heat has to go somewhere, and you're essentially riding on top of a semi-exposed engine. I've chimed in on another post about this somewhere and my response was, and still is, if you where the proper riding gear the heat is diminished a great deal. On long rides, I wear a pair of Dainese Lady Star boots - they are full leather, calf-high, and have Gore-Tex which keeps my feet very comfy. I can ride with my foot in front of the fan and only barely feel the heat that sometimes radiates up my pant leg (when I'm not wearing riding pants).
    I honestly don't believe there's an issue with the heat, but rather an issue with the lack of proper riding gear.

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    My calves get hot when I wear my speedo and ride, I suppose I could wear boots with my speedo...




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    Quote Originally Posted by zrc View Post
    My calves get hot when I wear my speedo and ride, I suppose I could wear boots with my speedo...



    Exactly!! Now you're gettin' it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by zrc View Post
    My calves get hot when I wear my speedo and ride, I suppose I could wear boots with my speedo...



    Fashion Emergency!
    Never wear boots with a speedo. Flip Flops would work so much better, but then you get all that heat??????????????????????????

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    Default Been working on this

    There are times when I can feel the heat through my boot. Generally when the ambient temp reaches 105 plus. Then, what I've noticed most is heat coming from the lower port. I've made a couple of moc ups that will help move the air a couple inches out from the right peg. Once I'm satisfied with a design I'll have it reproduced in smoke or black plastic. Lots of ways to secure it, so don't see that as a problem.


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    No heat issues up here in Alaska. You folks must be living in the wrong place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrc View Post
    My calves get hot when I wear my speedo and ride, I suppose I could wear boots with my speedo...



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    The key issue is that we have ETOH in our gas, catalytic converters, and engines running so lean, that water cooling hardly suffices. Look at the new Hardleys - especially the TriGlide - first order of business is to remove the cats, change the intake and exhaust, and remap the injection system - just to cool it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpydherLuv View Post


    I don't get how everyone is so dumbfounded by the heat. Not to be rude, but those who complain must not have ever ridden a 2-wheeler. All engines get hot, the heat has to go somewhere, and you're essentially riding on top of a semi-exposed engine. I've chimed in on another post about this somewhere and my response was, and still is, if you where the proper riding gear the heat is diminished a great deal. On long rides, I wear a pair of Dainese Lady Star boots - they are full leather, calf-high, and have Gore-Tex which keeps my feet very comfy. I can ride with my foot in front of the fan and only barely feel the heat that sometimes radiates up my pant leg (when I'm not wearing riding pants).
    I honestly don't believe there's an issue with the heat, but rather an issue with the lack of proper riding gear.
    So let me get this straight. What your saying is, riding the Spyder nude is not recommended?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxz600 View Post
    So let me get this straight. What your saying is, riding the Spyder nude is not recommended?
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    If you have a GS/RS taking off the Left and right underneath panel behind the engine helps a Lot!
    Don, t know if they are the same on the RT.
    In CT if its over 85 degrees I,m riding any vehicle besides the Spyder Below
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    I didn't have a heat issue with my Goldwing GL1800.

    The fans would periodically come on at a stoplight, but the heat was blown out to the side ... not onto the rider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickie Dick View Post
    Every year, for the past 4 years, about this time there is thread after thread about heat issues. First. it was on the GS, then the RS and now for the past 2 years, on the RT. Heck Spyderpops has made a living dealing with this problem. What I don't understand, is why doesn't BRP solve this problem? Why do they continue to put out a product that they know has this issue
    What heat!!!!! Over here in AZ. we don't notice whats coming off the engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDM View Post
    SPEEDOS That's a mental picture I could have done without!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    No heat issues up here in Alaska. You folks must be living in the wrong place.
    True... But our mosquitoes aren't three inches... BETWEEN THEIR EYEBALLS!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpydherLuv View Post


    I don't get how everyone is so dumbfounded by the heat. Not to be rude, but those who complain must not have ever ridden a 2-wheeler. All engines get hot, the heat has to go somewhere, and you're essentially riding on top of a semi-exposed engine. I've chimed in on another post about this somewhere and my response was, and still is, if you where the proper riding gear the heat is diminished a great deal. On long rides, I wear a pair of Dainese Lady Star boots - they are full leather, calf-high, and have Gore-Tex which keeps my feet very comfy. I can ride with my foot in front of the fan and only barely feel the heat that sometimes radiates up my pant leg (when I'm not wearing riding pants).
    I honestly don't believe there's an issue with the heat, but rather an issue with the lack of proper riding gear.
    This seems to be an issue that will never go away. In California in the part of I-8 that is around El Centro, the summer heat can get as high as 118, maybe more on any given summer day. That's a bit warm and a bit hard to ride in, but there are ways to get by. I don't have any "special" gear to ride with...just jeans, Corcoran 1944 boots, under shirt with a coarse white or very light-colored cotton shirt. I do not have, have never had and will never install riding pegs. The vent on the right side of the Spyder is designed to blow the heat away from the rider's legs. If you put you leg, foot, or whatever in front of the vent it WILL get hot. In almost 50 years of riding I have accepted the fact that engines that use gasoline to operate will get hot. They are designed that way and either we accept that or ride bicycles, horses, roller skates, cars, etc.
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    Default spyder heat is mild

    lots of folks here have no previous m c experience, so the spyder's heat output seems extreme. those of us that came from the two wheel m c world know what real heat feels like. imagine sitting on a heavyweight, air cooled bike, stuck in traffic, on a 90 plus degree day. THAT is hot. you have to realize our engines are inside a plastic shell, and as it's been said previously, the heat has to go somewhere. be happy it's your foot and not your face. take those splashpans off, it makes a big difference.
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