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    Only 4700 miles since new and both front tires have wear on the inside tread, the right a little more then the left.....any suggestions ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueKnight View Post
    Only 4700 miles since new and both front tires have wear on the inside tread, the right a little more then the left.....any suggestions ?

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    Mine did the same found it was toe out quite a bit

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    Alignment recently?? Did your old tires exhibit the same type of wear pattern??
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    Let me clarify, these are original tires with only 4700 miles on the bike.

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    pg 127 OM

    TIRE TREAD WEAR


    1. Tread-wear limit indicatorA. Appropriate tread depthB. Minimum tread depth, replace tire

    It is normal to see uneven wear on tires depending on how the vehicle is drivenand road conditions. The front tiresexternal or internal edges and the reartire center tread will wear unevenlydepending on if the vehicle is drivensmoothly or aggressively.

    Tire Rotation (Front)

    Rotate front tires when tread depth reaches 4mm (5/32 in). This will maximize

    tire life.
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    I dont mean to pirate the thread. I'm assuming that to rotate the front tires that they have to be remounted and balanced again, and if one was using Ride-On would the cost of doing all that be worth the additional tire wear that you may get???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerbear View Post
    pg 127 OM

    TIRE TREAD WEAR


    1. Tread-wear limit indicatorA. Appropriate tread depthB. Minimum tread depth, replace tire

    It is normal to see uneven wear on tires depending on how the vehicle is drivenand road conditions. The front tiresexternal or internal edges and the reartire center tread will wear unevenlydepending on if the vehicle is drivensmoothly or aggressively.

    Tire Rotation (Front)

    Rotate front tires when tread depth reaches 4mm (5/32 in). This will maximize

    tire life.
    I have 2 spyders the first one wore like this about the same miles, weight in the frunk with soft shock settings will add to this pattern right tires will always wear more due to the crown in the road but bottom line is the front is toe out like my first spyder was i aligned it put some michelin defenders on and triple the miles later they look new, the stock tires just like on any new rig are the cheepest thing they can use to get it out the door, the car magazines even say that the manufactures turn new tires on a lathe after mounting them so that they are true and round they do this so there new cars are smooth and they don't pay claims for thump thumps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerbear View Post
    pg 127 OM

    TIRE TREAD WEAR


    1. Tread-wear limit indicatorA. Appropriate tread depthB. Minimum tread depth, replace tire

    It is normal to see uneven wear on tires depending on how the vehicle is drivenand road conditions. The front tiresexternal or internal edges and the reartire center tread will wear unevenlydepending on if the vehicle is drivensmoothly or aggressively.

    Tire Rotation (Front)

    Rotate front tires when tread depth reaches 4mm (5/32 in). This will maximize

    tire life.
    Mine wore evenly on the inside and I rotated at 8 thousand and got 9 more thousand for 17,000.
    Hoping the Elka,s have changed the height somewhat and Maybe they will wear more even?

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    Default TIRE WEAR CONT'D

    I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU HAD AN RT BUT I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS. IF YOUR SPYDER IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY MAKE THEM CHECK THE ALIGNMENT AND CORRECT IF NECESSARY.....i THINK YOUR WEAR IS CHAMBER RELATED THOUGH.....EVERYTING ELSE i SAID APPLIES MORE SO BECAUSE YOUR SPYDER WEIGHS MORE....MIKE

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    Yes it is an RT and it is still under warranty, going in next week for inspection and I am going to have them check the tire issue.
    Just wanted to get some feedback before i took it in......

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1100rider View Post
    I have 2 spyders the first one wore like this about the same miles, weight in the frunk with soft shock settings will add to this pattern right tires will always wear more due to the crown in the road but bottom line is the front is toe out like my first spyder was i aligned it put some michelin defenders on and triple the miles later they look new, the stock tires just like on any new rig are the cheepest thing they can use to get it out the door, the car magazines even say that the manufactures turn new tires on a lathe after mounting them so that they are true and round they do this so there new cars are smooth and they don't pay claims for thump thumps
    The Michelin defenders you put on your front, are they directional or can they be rotated. Tried to ask this in PM but could not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandpa Spyder View Post
    The Michelin defenders you put on your front, are they directional or can they be rotated. Tried to ask this in PM but could not.
    they are non directional it will be a long time before they need rotated

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    I would say an alignment is needed. Not sure if warranty will cover it. Pretty hard to know if a curb was hit or not but I have over 13,000 miles and my front tires look new. The back one was done at 12,000 miles.

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    I have 2200 miles on my RT and I just measured both fronts inside and outside all readings were 7/32.
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    I only get 8 to 10 k out of my rear tires but my front tire lasted 27,000 and was not at the wear bars. It seems that rapid wear must be an alignment issue and not part of the nature of the spyder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueKnight View Post
    Yes it is an RT and it is still under warranty, going in next week for inspection and I am going to have them check the tire issue.
    Just wanted to get some feedback before i took it in......
    If they tell you it's normal and you feel like a trip to Accord, NY, I will help you out. Definately to much to-out and possibly a camber issue. I can help with tires also if you need them.
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    Default FRONT TIRE WEAR

    27,000 MILES on front tires that has to be some kind of record !!!!!!!.....Mike......Has anyone gotten more on OEM's

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    I would think you have the record.
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    With the second set we will see if it was luck or if I got the spyder with the correct front end set up. I wish I could do better with the rear!

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    Mine did that too and I got 2 new tires and an alignment. It was all under warrenty! You need to do that because it shouldn't be wearing like that!





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    With the second set we will see if it was luck or if I got the spyder with the correct front end set up. I wish I could do better with the rear!

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    We'll find out, my dealer is pretty good.....

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    I have 25,400 on the original front tires and they look like they have quite a few miles left in them. I wore out 2 OEM rear tires in just over 14,000 miles but now have 11,000 miles on a Kumho Ecsta with pretty good tread left on it. My guess is that you have a pretty serious alignment problem.

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    JMHO...It needs an alignment check. If it meets spec, have them add a couple of mm more toe-in. A heavy rider, or frequent passenger load can cause the RT to toe out too much. Adjustment is much like a race car...the factory spec is just a starting point. Note: this is not a factory approved solution.
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    Default OEM TIRE RECORD

    Bikeguy, I think you are headed for the new mileage record.....please keep us informed this is very interesting....Mike...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealth11 View Post
    I have to believe the toe is wrong to cause that much wear. The adjustments have to be made with full weight on the wheels as the toe changes as the machine rises and falls. I would guess 1/4" toe in would be about right.

    I expect my RT's (not spyder) front tires to go 50-60k as they are still like new at 18k & 22k right now. I run 3/8" positive toe but have 1 degree camber so I have to run just a bit more than the spyders.
    1/4" toe-in (on the ground) is way too much for almost any vehicle with radial tires...and certainly for the Spyder. Something around 3/32" (unloaded) works much better.
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