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I never ride without my helmet!! I think it's common sense to wear one, but to each his/her own I say.
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Originally Posted by Magnum Force
TEXTING isn't the same issue! That is a safety issue like drunken driving. A person not wearing a helmet isn't going to cause someone to hit me head on. That is comparing apples to oranges here. The only safety issue with not wearing a helmet is to the person who decides not to wear one! I also agree about the liability insurance. Others shouldn't have to pay for someone elses choice.
Agreed!!
Originally Posted by vampyregirl
I never ride without my helmet!! I think it's common sense to wear one, but to each his/her own I say.
Agreed!!
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I thought there was a forum rule about political discussions? This should be closed, because it is not a simple discussion about freedom. It's a political discussion about me and everyone else that either pays taxes or insurance premiums funding other peoples' poor choices. I don't care if you wear your helmet or seatbelt, I just don't want to pay for your care once you've been injured and exhausted the limits of your insurance.
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I also have two. The weather determines which one I wear. However, I always wear one, not only because it's the law, I wouldn't be caught dead without one. I too have been in the fire rescue field and have seen what happens when safety PPE isn't worn.
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I always wear a helmet and the reason is very simple. What I would do if I knew when I left home that I was going to crash before I got back. The next question is how do I know that I'm not going to crash. I believe everyone should have the freedom to make their own choice, however, whether I agree with their choice or not.
I also agree with others that the question of cell phones and/or texting is not the same. There is absolutely no question in my mind that such actions should be against the law.
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I worked in a rehab for brain injurys...needless to say we had people that were in motorcyle accidents. So frustrating seeing this guy...knowing what was going on yet unable to move any body parts and only voicing grunts. I also wiped out on my bike and recalling my helmet bouncing off the payment. Looking at it later made me so glad I had it on.
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Originally Posted by NorthStar
Any person who chooses to operate a motorcycle without a helmet would be required to carry life and disability insurance that will cover the medical costs of caring for a a brain injured person for as long as that person will survive. I am sure an insurance company actuary could come up with the relevant premium for such coverage.
This solution does have a flaw of course. The police would have to set up motorcycle checkpoints to make sure helmet less riders have the appropriate coverage.
Maybe it is just easier to obey helmet laws. Less intrusive
I always worn my helmet! To me it's a matter of common sense. But, I believe it's YOUR choice as long as you foot the bill. We should not have to pay for your choice when you decide to go without a helmet.
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YA JUST WHAT WE NEED MORE LAWS THAT WILL KEEP US ALL MUCH SAFER.....WHERE DOES IT STOP?????????????
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Originally Posted by CJ/johnnyg
Always, But I think it should be your choice, If you want to be an idiot so be it. That is what America is suppose to be about FREEDOM
INTERESTING that your response was always and yet you attached pic shows a rider with none on... Haha
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I believe it should be a freedom of choice.... I choose to wear a helmet and a seat belt. A seat belt saved my life when I was only 18 years old and my car did a nose flip on a downtown Indianapolis street about 12 1/2 years ago.
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I have three and the wife has two. We may still end up with another pair. Being retired military and the wife being a reservist I suspect any accident without a helmet on would result in problems with Tricare. Being a former police officer I have seen enough accidents to be a believer in safety gear.
OTOH where does all of the safety rules end? Crash cages with air bags? Or motorcycles, etc. declared unsafe for highway use.
Texting while driving is a whole different subject and IMO just as bad as driving drunk or worse.
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Originally Posted by CanAmMick
I always worn my helmet! To me it's a matter of common sense. But, I believe it's YOUR choice as long as you foot the bill. We should not have to pay for your choice when you decide to go without a helmet.
What about your choice when you decide to smoke, or eat too much or not exersize or ride a bicycle (insanely dangerous on the road) and so on.
This we shouldn't have to pay has been created by people who would take your freedoms away.
If it had been proven that riding with a helmet is actually significantly safer, all states would have the law. There are actually good arguments against helmet safety. One of the main being that a helmet is only rated to protect you up to 15 mph... Did you know that?
Did you know that the statistics they rattle off about deaths increasing whenever a state gets rid of it's helmet laws are made not so significant because there is a huge increase in ridership wherever they do so which actually explains the increase in deaths?
Do some research on both sides just don't believe the side you think you want to be true
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Originally Posted by kismaokole
State troopers tell The Post-Standard of Syracuse that 55-year-old Philip A. Contos of Parish, N.Y., was driving a 1983 Harley Davidson with a group of bikers who were protesting helmet laws by not wearing helmets.
Troopers say Contos hit his brakes and the motorcycle fishtailed. The bike spun out of control, and Contos toppled over the handlebars.
He was pronounced dead at a hospital.
Troopers say Contos would have likely survived if he had been wearing a helmet.
I work in medicine, we call those guys organ donors.
Its ok if you dont care about yourself. Think about your loved ones coming to identify what used to be a person....you dont look cool without it then.
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What about all the problems with helments...lack of visabilty, hearing, balance????? I understand all the plus's...but there is some down sides too. It should be your right, next it will be padded suits and so on. Its a bike, not the safest thing any of us have done. But we choose to ride any ways. Lets not get to high minded, and guilt trip and look down on thous who don't belive in them.......its all in the eye of the ryder....we don't need more laws!
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Originally Posted by challman
What about your choice when you decide to smoke, or eat too much or not exersize or ride a bicycle (insanely dangerous on the road) and so on.
This we shouldn't have to pay has been created by people who would take your freedoms away.
If it had been proven that riding with a helmet is actually significantly safer, all states would have the law. There are actually good arguments against helmet safety. One of the main being that a helmet is only rated to protect you up to 15 mph... Did you know that?
Did you know that the statistics they rattle off about deaths increasing whenever a state gets rid of it's helmet laws are made not so significant because there is a huge increase in ridership wherever they do so which actually explains the increase in deaths?
Do some research on both sides just don't believe the side you think you want to be true
I don't smoke and I still exercise. My choice!! If you want to ride without a helmet it's your choice, but I should not have to split the cost for taking care of you after wards.
If you are involved in an accident is a helmet going to save your life. Maybe, maybe not. It all depend on a lot of factors. Safety equipment does have a purpose, and generally does help. We could go on and on about the subject of wearing helmets. It's been debated over and over again and will probably be for many years.
My choice is to wear safety gear. It's you choice on what you decide to do.. Just don't expect me to foot the bill.
I believe I can find as many resources on the benefits of wearing helmets as you can find against it. Sure am glad we all have our own choices!!!!!!
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I always wear my helmet--law or no law.
No helmet law for drivers of mc in AK--but passengers are required to wear one---no idea on the rationale for that.
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Remenber it's not the fall that gets you it's the sudden stop. Helmets by be rated at 15 MPH but in 1999 on I40 N.C. and a dog running in my lane I went down at 65 MPH. Untill the next day I did not know that my helmet hit the road the mark it left was a large one. Without the helmet I don't know if I would have been able to get up and walk off the interstate before the traffic ran me over I rolled straight down the center and stopped stood up and looked at all the lights coming at me. As soon as I found grass the traffic passed me no one knew there had been a accident. so I beleive the helmet did it's job.
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I've ridden with a helmet since 1973 when Wisconsin required them. Had my first bike accident in 1973, was run off the road by an oncoming car in my lane. Hit a farmers stone fence and flipped over the bike and myself. The helmet was cracked across the forehead. Believe in my heart I would not have gotten up from that hit without the helmet.
Unless your state requires a helmet it is the riders choice. I chose to wear one, I don't judge the rider who does not.
Keep the government out of the discussion. We all pay (insurance rates) for ALL the costs payed out by the insurance industry.
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