You are what you ride

**freebob** · 10-18-2010, 01:52 PM

Below is part of a email I received this AM, My reply, And his reply back to me.

Earlier that morning we did a demo ride on Can Am Spyders. THEY ARE NOT MOTORCYCLES! They are ATVs. Before the ride you even have to legally acknowledge that they are not motorcycles. They were fun, and are pretty sophisticated, but they are technically not motorcycles.

Well Buddy, I beg to differ on your interpretation of the CAN AM SPYDER not being a motorcycle, It is as much a motorcycle as any other Trike on the market it is just a reversed version of such. ATV's are All Terrain Vehicles and are off road only classified, Better do your homework before you make such bias statements. Your fellow Roadrunner....Freebob.

Gee, do I detect a little animosity here? Tough ****. I signed a document that clearly made me acknowledge that what I was about to ride was NOT a motorcycle. It sure was, in my opinion, not. Who cares, anyhow? As one of my shirts says: "You are what you ride."
alpincus@aol.com

Freebob....

**canam9** · 10-18-2010, 03:00 PM

Go Bob.

**rogerb** · 10-18-2010, 03:01 PM

It would be interesting to now who the dealer is that made such a false statement. He can't be a Spyder dealer. That would be a shop to stay miles away from.

**dancogan** · 10-18-2010, 03:12 PM

Maybe it was a test ride in one of those states that doesn't require any special endorsement for riding a trike? Of course, that doesn't explain classifying the Spyder as an ATV. If it is an ATV, it's got the lowest ground clearance of any ATV around!

**freebob** · 10-18-2010, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by freebob

Below is part of a email I received this AM, My reply, And his reply back to me.

Earlier that morning we did a demo ride on Can Am Spyders. THEY ARE NOT MOTORCYCLES! They are ATVs. Before the ride you even have to legally acknowledge that they are not motorcycles. They were fun, and are pretty sophisticated, but they are technically not motorcycles.

Well Buddy, I beg to differ on your interpretation of the CAN AM SPYDER not being a motorcycle, It is as much a motorcycle as any other Trike on the market it is just a reversed version of such. ATV's are All Terrain Vehicles and are off road only classified, Better do your homework before you make such bias statements. Your fellow Roadrunner....Freebob.

Gee, do I detect a little animosity here? Tough ****. I signed a document that clearly made me acknowledge that what I was about to ride was NOT a motorcycle. It sure was, in my opinion, not. Who cares, anyhow? As one of my shirts says: "You are what you ride."
alpincus@aol.com

Freebob....

He had just returned from Daytona I assume on his Harley...

**Neez** · 10-18-2010, 03:39 PM

BRP calls them roadsters. Not motorcycles. Not ATVs. What ever you may call my Spyder, it's still my favorite ride.

**BikerDoc** · 10-18-2010, 03:40 PM

BRP is actually the one guilty of the "It is not a motorcycle" spiel.. They put that out as a warning for how differently you have to handle it when you are a new rider.. I hate the way they put it and I Love my Spyder but sadly it is our manufacturer that is tacitly smearing its own product..

**mxz600** · 10-18-2010, 04:05 PM

To coin a phrase from Ron White "You can't fix stupid".
I get a lot of crap from people at work. Some of it lighthearted but the overall tone is not. If it ain't a Harley it ain't

.
One of the guy's at work saw my desktop picture of the Chicago event. His comment was "That is a lot of Spyders, I didn't even know they made that many". And I said half jokingly, "Give it about twenty years and the Spyder will be taking over". And his reply was, "Give it ten years and they won't even be making them anymore".

**LDFIREWORKS** · 10-18-2010, 04:18 PM

guy is a freakin jerk

**Bob Denman** · 10-18-2010, 04:38 PM

I don't care WHAT they're called or by whom... they're fun and I'm glad that I've got one.,.. whatever it is!

**Yazz** · 10-18-2010, 05:37 PM

The reason some people give us a hard time is because they can't figure it out. Not a motorcycle or an ATV in their little minds. That makes us an enigma.

**Dudley** · 10-18-2010, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by BikerDoc

BRP is actually the one guilty of the "It is not a motorcycle" spiel.. They put that out as a warning for how differently you have to handle it when you are a new rider.. I hate the way they put it and I Love my Spyder but sadly it is our manufacturer that is tacitly smearing its own product..

BRP is not smearing it's own product. It is what it is...a Roadster. The signing of the statement that the Spyder "is not a motorcycle" is necessary as a legal declaration for liability if someone said they didn't know that the Spyder didn't handle like a motorcycle. There are enough fools in this world that any company has to cover their back because SOMEONE will find a way to get hurt doing stupid things with a product because no one told them they may get hurt by using the product.
We are now on our 2nd Spyder, an RT after 23 months and 43K miles with a 2008 SE5. I don't really care what someone calls the Spyder. It gives my wife and me indescribable pleasure in being able to ride and enjoy life.

**Rider Steve** · 10-18-2010, 06:44 PM

OH BOY! OH BOY! OH BOY! My first Spyder fight.

**Dudley** · 10-18-2010, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Rider Steve

OH BOY! OH BOY! OH BOY! My first Spyder fight.

Is this why you are on this site?

**BLACK WIDOW** · 10-18-2010, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Neez

BRP calls them roadsters. Not motorcycles. Not ATVs. What ever you may call my Spyder, it's still my favorite ride.

I'm with you, my friend----Personally don't give a rats A$$ what they call it-----I just like it.

**freebob** · 10-18-2010, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Dudley

Is this why you are on this site?

This not a Spyder fight. It is Spyder riders united....Freebob..

**Dudley** · 10-18-2010, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by freebob

This not a Spyder fight. It is Spyder riders united....Freebob..

Look back. I never mentioned this was a fight. Someone else did.

**WackyDan** · 10-18-2010, 07:47 PM

Yep... I get into with people from time to time. Generally most are open minded and can have an interesting conversation about riding or the spyder.

On the internet however, you have to remember that you are dealing with people offering their 2 cents in a way that they probably wouldn't have the courage to if they had to say it to your face.

I had a kid on the internet tell me his ninja 250 would eat my spyder and I quite honestly got a good laugh... 500 yes, 250, probably not.

I think what you see on the internet is a lot of 20 y/o somethings that are still on their first bike who still think that crotch rockets or top speed are the only thing that constitutes a bike. Heck, many probably don't have a bike at all!

These are the same idiots who in twenty years will still be trying to ride two wheels with the bum knee, etc and then their mind will be of a different set.

I was young once too... I used to think that subarus weren't utter crap and thought that one wasn't a match for an American muscle car... then I was taken for a ride in a run of the mill Impreza with a turbo and upgraded everything. Scared the crap out of me and changed my mind entirely.

I'm waiting for the day that some young punk pulls up next to Doc at a light and finds out the hard way that there are sleeper Spyders out in the wild now.

So... we'll have to endure the fact that some think they are not bikes for the extra wheel, and that some don't recognize them as sport tourers, and that some think they are too slow... Really... Do we really care what they think?

**SethO** · 10-18-2010, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by WackyDan

Yep... I get into with people from time to time. Generally most are open minded and can have an interesting conversation about riding or the spyder.

On the internet however, you have to remember that you are dealing with people offering their 2 cents in a way that they probably wouldn't have the courage to if they had to say it to your face.

I had a kid on the internet tell me his ninja 250 would eat my spyder and I quite honestly got a good laugh... 500 yes, 250, probably not.

I think what you see on the internet is a lot of 20 y/o somethings that are still on their first bike who still think that crotch rockets or top speed are the only thing that constitutes a bike. Heck, many probably don't have a bike at all!

These are the same idiots who in twenty years will still be trying to ride two wheels with the bum knee, etc and then their mind will be of a different set.

I was young once too... I used to think that subarus weren't utter crap and thought that one wasn't a match for an American muscle car... then I was taken for a ride in a run of the mill Impreza with a turbo and upgraded everything. Scared the crap out of me and changed my mind entirely.

I'm waiting for the day that some young punk pulls up next to Doc at a light and finds out the hard way that there are sleeper Spyders out in the wild now.

So... we'll have to endure the fact that some think they are not bikes for the extra wheel, and that some don't recognize them as sport tourers, and that some think they are too slow... Really... Do we really care what they think?

I do and they are. the are classed as a motorcycle and you have to have in MC endorsement to ride them in most states. there is NO way a ninja 250 will be beat a spyder on the road in anyway except for gas mileage.

Kids are dumb and they are stupidest on the interweb, no one to hold them accountable for the bull**** they are slanging. IF you do not believe this look at the comments on my .50 bmg deer video, only the dumbest of the dumb.

is the spyder perfect? NO is it the best trike on the market, YES. With the feedback from the owners on this site it go from good to great, that is IF BRP wants to start paying the right people to test it. Not the yes people that got the thing on the road will all the easily fixed problems. There is NO WAY it would be perfect by customers should not have to bring up when things are wearing out and BRP is playing catch up.

WHERE IS MY CHECK!!!! the big ones like on happy gilmore.

**Rockytime** · 10-18-2010, 08:17 PM

I call mine a trike. Allows me to be a member of Brothers of the Third Wheel. It must be the third wheel that makes it a trike.

**Rider Steve** · 10-18-2010, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Dudley

Is this why you are on this site?

Yes sir re bob! I hear spyder lovers are the best fighters on this planet. I wanna join up cause of the busting of beer bottles, the drugs, the mayhem and destruction they cause all over the world. Spyder riders ain't no pushovers ya know. Their mean, vicious and cruel to the bone. Never mess with Spyder riders dude.

Ya I'm laughing my ass off.

get real dudley I was just kidding.

**Blue Star** · 10-18-2010, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by WackyDan

I think what you see on the internet is a lot of 20 y/o somethings that are still on their first bike who still think that crotch rockets or top speed are the only thing that constitutes a bike.

So true. I remember when I crashed on my Suzuki C50, and my wife made me sell it (long story) to my brother-in-law. His 18-year old son (who he was buying it for) looked at it as I opened the garage door, and said "its an old mans bike" I replied, so what did you expect, a bike with training wheels? My wife and brother-in-law busted up laughing, but my nephew did not like that remark.

**Havasu Rider** · 10-18-2010, 09:30 PM

Some of these idiots (young or old) thing that until they leave a pound of skin on the asphalt after laying down their Harley, you are not a biker. Wait until they get to my age (68) and have done that a couple of times and they will be happy to still be riding.

**Rider Steve** · 10-18-2010, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by WackyDan

On the internet however, you have to remember that you are dealing with people offering their 2 cents in a way that they probably wouldn't have the courage to if they had to say it to your face.

I've heard that quite often on the internet and I think it's a farce excuse because people don't understand what's really going on. When your person to person you can interact with that person(s) in a way you can't on the internet. In person you can see that person, you can hear that person, you can hear the tone of their voice, you can see the smirk or smile and you can see their body movements. It's much easier to understand how someone feels about someone or something in person. On the internet your just looking at type written words. It's like talking to a tin can. Only in this case the tin can can talk back. The internet doesn't have a human look or feel so it's a lot easier to misinterpret or take things the wrong way. Crap I better go eat some

**SpyderGirl** · 10-18-2010, 09:59 PM

I've ate my share of pavement... there is almost no way I'd ever go back to a two-wheeler, and there is absolutely no way there wouldn't be a Spyder in my garage.

As for the remark regarding the Ninja 250... I want what he's smoking. I used to own a 2009 Ninja 250 and no way was that faster than the Spyder... not by a long shot.

Call it what you will, I call it my toy and I also call it a motorcycle. It most definitely is not an ATV.

A guy at my husband's work gives him hell sometimes about the Spyder. He just tells him that he's mad that he paid $45,000 for his Harley and only got two wheels. LOL!

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