It all about my constitution also

[Spyder#353]

I just received a PM from Larmont. Some body sent him a message complaining about the artwork on my trunk lid. I've been on this site for awhile now and haven't had any problems. My pic was removed from the site. Not right. That same pic was my avatar for over a year. and no one said anything. With that said. I will no longer posting on this site. Goodbye.

[Lamonster]

I'm sorry you took it that way but this wasn't the first time I've been contacted about it, it's just the first time I acted on it.

The rules have been in place since day one and the "art" on your hood is not what I would call family friendly Bro. Sorry.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=4225

[Firefly]

I just received a PM from Larmont. Some body sent him a message complaining about the artwork on my trunk lid. I've been on this site for awhile now and haven't had any problems. My pic was removed from the site. Not right. That same pic was my avatar for over a year. and no one said anything. With that said. I will no longer posting on this site. Goodbye.

While I totally agree with you having a Constitutional right to have that on your hood-- and it doesn't offend me at all--- you have to remember this is a private site and the owner can set whatever rules he wants.

I also agree with the Larry Flint ruling--- he had / has every right to publish what he wants--- but he doesn't have the right to force it on others. Great movie btw.

[Dudley]

I just received a PM from Larmont. Some body sent him a message complaining about the artwork on my trunk lid. I've been on this site for awhile now and haven't had any problems. My pic was removed from the site. Not right. That same pic was my avatar for over a year. and no one said anything. With that said. I will no longer posting on this site. Goodbye.

A constitutional right gives us the right to express ourselves. It does not give us the right to do so if it showed what you did, and the way you so publicly did it. You're lucky someone hasn't filed a legal complaint against you whenever you are riding around. Just my 2 cents. It didn't offend me, but I questioned your maturity and reason in painting that on your Spyder.

[bjt]

The rules have been in place since day one and the "art" on your hood is not what I would call family friendly Bro. Sorry.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=4225

I agree that a picture or a painting of a topless woman doesn't have a place on a site that is advertised as family friendly. Also, this isn't the first time this subject has been brought up...

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=8524

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=11187

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=21468

[Eraser]

While I totally agree with you having a Constitutional right to have that on your hood-- and it doesn't offend me at all--- you have to remember this is a private site and the owner can set whatever rules he wants.

I also agree with the Larry Flint ruling--- he had / has every right to publish what he wants--- but he doesn't have the right to force it on others. Great movie btw.

"Private", being the Operative.

[Blue Star]

I just received a PM from Larmont. Some body sent him a message complaining about the artwork on my trunk lid. I've been on this site for awhile now and haven't had any problems. My pic was removed from the site. Not right. That same pic was my avatar for over a year. and no one said anything. With that said. I will no longer posting on this site. Goodbye.

There is so much I could say about this, but I did read the posting, and see that it would do no good to do so. All I will say is THANK YOU to Lamont for keeping this site clean so I don't have to worry about my kids reading it over my shoulder.

[musicarcade]

Sorry to see you go Steve!
Does this mean 2 less for the BBQ??

On a (very) semi-related note,
I wish Scotty's new avatar would PUT SOME PANTS ON!

[C3517C]

I don't find adult content offensive, I can even say I appreciate it. But I like it kept in places you have to ask for to find. I think this site being family friendly is refreshing. I read it in the living room with my family around on a regular basis. Thank You for running a responsible site that all can enjoy.

[BajaRon]

I just received a PM from Larmont. Some body sent him a message complaining about the artwork on my trunk lid. I've been on this site for awhile now and haven't had any problems. My pic was removed from the site. Not right. That same pic was my avatar for over a year. and no one said anything. With that said. I will no longer posting on this site. Goodbye.

First, I am very sorry you have chosen to leave. I think you're taking this all wrong.

I don't pretend to speak for everyone here. This is just my perspective.

It may have appeared to you that there weren't any problems. But it is more likely that people here just didn't want to create an issue by pointing out the obvious and taking the chance of setting you off.

It is quite clear that you are very proud of that semi-nude woman on the front of your Spyder. People may have assumed your reaction to any complaint would not be well received, no matter how it was presented. And in fact they were correct, as evidenced by your response. So you can't blame anyone for not wanting to pull the pin on this grenade.

Even if you did not realize your 'Artwork' is inapproprite here, you must have known it would be offensive to some, and you did not consider that important enough to sensor it yourself.

Why is our right not to see it less important than your proclaimed right to post it? When I don't want to read or follow a post I just don't read it. But a picture is in your face and can't be avoided in the same way as text.

One of the reasons I come here is I feel realitively sure I won't have to look at that kind of picture. For one thing, my wife is too important to me. She loves me and I love her. And for us, what we look at is important.

So once again, Lamont takes the heat for those of us who appreciate the clean environment here. Believe me, he hates confrontation and this is neither easy nor fun for him. But he man's up and does what has to be done. And that is something that I have always admired about Lamont.

Web sites like this one are not common. And there are few who do it as well as Lamont does. He'll be the first to tell you he isn't perfect. But I certainly appreciate what he does and the way that he does it.

How about all of us grow up a little and do what we know is right to start with. Then Lamont can sit back and let us have good clean fun.

Bottom line is, this is not a democracy. Everyone is welcome but there are some rules to the game. And like anything with rules, if you don't follow them, someone has to deal with it. Maybe Lamont was hoping you'd take care of it without him having to get involved.

As for me, I say come back and stay as long as you like. There are plenty of other forums where they will apprecaite your trunk hood and you can post it there.

[musicarcade]

You Can't say it any better than that.

[Smylinacha]

Personally I don't mind the naked lady on your hood. But personally I wouldn't put a naked person on my bike but to each his own. Didn't bother me and I met you at the BBQ and you are a nice guy

I don't even notice the avatars on here - I basically read but that's me. Sometimes I think people get bored and start complaining about stuff. From what I've learned from being on forums, people like to nit pick on every little thing.

Just to each his/her own.

[Smylinacha]

My father was a graphic designer for Pepperidge Farm. He did all the package design - you see the gold fishes on the packages, he's long retired but not much of the packaging has not changed. And he did this all from a drafting board - to this day he has no clue how to even turn on a computer. He also did side work with a gag writer for Playboy, Oui & Viva - He had an art studio. I was in there all the time - maybe cuz I'm used to it - it doesn't bother me. I think it is sad that America seems to make the naked body "shameful" or taboo. Ever go to Europe? Much more relaxed over there. And it's not like all pervy and stuf. Just more accepted I guess.

If it's the photo I am thinking of...
I saw it and was surprised. I was not offended or surprised by the artwork.

I WAS surprised that there were children in the photo right next to the artwork.
That part of it didn't seem appropriate.

[NancysToy]

I am sorry to see you take this personally. I'm even sorrier to see you leave, as a result. I am not a prude, by any means...but I do believe strongly in rules, and abiding by them. Lamont was up front with the rules about this site from the beginning, and he has removed other pictures and threads. It is his right to do so as the private site owner. Abiding by his rules is the cost of entry.

Ron stated his views far better than I ever could, and I heartily agree. I hope you reconsider your position, and come back and join us.

[golfman]

The above frog avatar has no pants! REMOVE IT!

[Smylinacha]

The above frog avatar has no pants! REMOVE IT!

[NancysToy]

The above frog avatar has no pants! REMOVE IT!

No, but the goodies were airbrushed out. Consider them frogskin tights.

[Justin]

The above frog avatar has no pants! REMOVE IT!

or the baby promoting smoking to children,lol

[Smylinacha]

or the baby promoting smoking to children,lol

Aw come on - he's a cute baby! Ya think I should put Hello Kitty up instead?

[golfman]

No, but the goodies were airbrushed out. Consider them frogskin tights.

Airbrushed goodies! It just keeps getting worse!

[COOLMACHINE]

Hate to see you leave the forum over this issue.... but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

[Justin]

Aw come on - he's a cute baby! Ya think I should put Hello Kitty up instead?

lol

[gjco]

I would have to agree to remove the pic. I sit down every night when I get home from work and read with my 4 year old in my lap and read a lot of the new posts. she loves to ride the spyder around the block with me and when I sit down to read spyderlovers she loves to look at the pics and ask questions about them. So when we cant ride we can still share spyder stuff with this site. Family friendly is number one in my house. Thank you from me and my future spyderlover. I also think ataDude said it best:

There are two kinds of people: (1) those who can read, reason and apply the experiences of others; and (2) those who just have to pee on the electric fence. ataDude, 2009

[Firefly]

Again-- this really has nothing to do with a persons Constitutional rights.

Just because we have certain rights doesn't mean we can come into your house and express them---- and this forum is Lamonts house so to speak!

[BillGargan]

I am 70.

I remember the days before Playboy. I remember Playboy having to airbrush (I did not know what that meant at the time) out the important anatomical details including the navel . I remember with great pleasure how that all evolved into beauty and reality -- away from the absurd and outdated moral standards of those olden days.

I remember when Penthouse sluttied up the scene.

I remember when Hustler started showing more detail than there was in Gray's Anatomy (an important book, not a TV show) and started showing "art" that simply was simply PORN.

I admired and bought them all.

But, they have their place and it is NOT here. There is enough -- errrr too much -- soft and hard porn on the web. This site should not add to it.

Keep it in the bedroom and other appropriate places . . .

Hooray to Lamonster for his courage in not bending over inappropriately!

I'm sorry you took it that way but this wasn't the first time I've been contacted about it, it's just the first time I acted on it.

The rules have been in place since day one and the "art" on your hood is not what I would call family friendly Bro. Sorry.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=4225