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    My Spyder @ 87K had this symptoms:
    1. ryde 10 min, error codes (VSS Error, Check DPS, Limp Home Mode)= maximum 39 mph and 3500 RPM.
    2. quick turn key off and on: Check DPS Error, unlimited mph and red line for the RPM; after 20 min, back to (1).
    Note: DPS replaced few days ago.
    Last edited by docdoru; 07-24-2010 at 06:19 PM.
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    [QUOTE=docdoru;231236]My Spyder @ 87K had this symptoms:
    error codes (VSS Error, Check DPS, Limp Home Mode)= maximum 39 mph and 3500 RPM.

    After I did a front end alignment I got the same codes until hooked up to BUDS and had the torque and steering angle sensors reset . I don't know if your front end has gone out of alignment but I remember you had trouble with a bent pin or bushing on your rear Elka shock.
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    Also when I was in Limp Home Mode when I got into 5th gear at about 3500 RPM I was going 79 KPH ( about 48 MPH )
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    Don't know if it matters but I have a 2009 SE5
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfraser View Post
    After I did a front end alignment I got the same codes until hooked up to BUDS and had the torque and steering angle sensors reset . I don't know if your front end has gone out of alignment but I remember you had trouble with a bent pin or bushing on your rear Elka shock.
    Steering angle sensor reset properly. Alignment is specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfraser View Post
    Don't know if it matters but I have a 2009 SE5
    Can be a SE5 also.
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    I've read some post that they are getting bad DPS and they are using rebuilt ones as well . May-be you are one of the unlucky ones and have another bad DPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfraser View Post
    I've read some post that they are getting bad DPS and they are using rebuilt ones as well . May-be you are one of the unlucky ones and have another bad DPS
    DPS is fully functional, all DPS updates installed.
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    No active codes while in limp mode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    No active codes while in limp mode?
    None in the B.U.D.S.
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    Serious warnings and limp mode should not be able to be triggered without leaving a fault behind. If BUDS is clean, I would suspect:

    1. Low battery voltage
    2. Loose or bad relays
    3. Loose or corroded wiring connector somewhere...even to a single sensor
    4. Faulty module (VCM, ECM, or cluster)
    5. RFI interference
    6. Interference by an aftermarket accessory

    The fact that this happens when warm would tend to point to a processor or circuit board issue, i.e. bad module. Just guesswork on my part. These types of things that leave no tracks...even when they should, can drive you nuts. You might need to call in one of the wizards at BRP tech for help. Kurt, are you listening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    6. Interference by an aftermarket accessory
    Close, but which one?
    I agree, it did drive me nuts together with 4 Tampa Bay service mechanics....until today at 6 PM...
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    Quote Originally Posted by docdoru View Post
    Close, but which one?
    I agree, it did drive me nuts together with 4 Tampa Bay service mechanics....until today at 6 PM...

    Radar detector

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    Radar detector
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    Radar detector
    ...Nope.
    One more clue: you don't need any tools for diagnostic...
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    Loose relay ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfraser View Post
    Loose relay ?
    No...
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    Custom seat, seat switch disconnected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latemarch View Post
    Custom seat, seat switch disconnected?
    No...I was in suspense for a week and 3 days prior to a ryde to Canada...
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    MCC or GPS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rando View Post
    MCC or GPS?
    And the winner is...Rando: MCC!
    The 2 nickel plated magnets are normally placed in the heads of the bolts that mount the ABS tone wheel. For unknown reasons, they slip towards the VSS reading area...



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    Quote Originally Posted by docdoru View Post
    My Spyder @ 87K had this symptoms:
    1. ryde 10 min, error codes (VSS Error, Check DPS, Limp Home Mode)= maximum 39 mph and 3500 RPM.
    2. quick turn key off and on: Check DPS Error, unlimited mph and red line for the RPM; after 20 min, back to (1).
    Note: DPS replaced few days ago.
    I had the same basic thing going on with mine many moons ago. It turned out to be that the negative battery terminal was not torqued down enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donzo View Post
    I had the same basic thing going on with mine many moons ago. It turned out to be that the negative battery terminal was not torqued down enough.
    In your case, the Limp Mode is different: max 45 mph and 4500 RPM...same in double brake lights bulbs burned...
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    What is the MCC?



    Quote Originally Posted by docdoru View Post
    And the winner is...Rando: MCC!
    The 2 nickel plated magnets are normally placed in the heads of the bolts that mount the ABS tone wheel. For unknown reasons, they slip towards the VSS reading area...




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    Quote Originally Posted by groundeffect View Post
    What is the MCC?
    McCruise Control...http://www.mccruise.com/
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