DPS Mileage

[ZRCAT600]

At what mileage did people usually start having DPS problems? I only put on 200 miles last fall and cant wait for spring.

[boborgera]

At what mileage did people usually start having DPS problems? I only put on 200 miles last fall and cant wait for spring.

Mine started at about 5+ thousand mi. Did the RECALL at about 6+ thousand mi.
Still comes on intermittently with about 9,900 mi..
I Keep it in the back of my mind and I'm careful. But that's me i can
handle it, Not saying every body can nor should they have to.

[sylblk]

i beleive mine was in the constantly stiff mode since new. at first patch update, 13k miles the dps wouldn't communicate, the dps was replaced and i finally experienced the full steering assist. awsome ever since. recommend for you to demand the unit's replacement if it's still malfunctioning!

[dave01]

2K miles for my first issue and then 4K when it really went nuts. Only 4200 on the Spyder right now and it has the 3rd DPS unit in it, counting the one it came with.

[sabunim5]

Approx. 12,500 miles

[bone crusher]

What a mess...

What can be done as a collective whole from this site and for contacting others? Is this a universal problem or only with some random bikes? Do we see this more with autos or manuals...any other info to start getting to BRP/someone who can help everyone?

[Way2Fast]

The steering developed a mind of it's own with under 500 miles on the bike. Had I continued to ride it I'm sure my luck would have run out and I'd probably be a road fatality by now! I have better things to do with my life than to risk it driving an unsafe vehicle. When and if they ever get to the bottom of what is causing the various steering malfunctions I'll let the dealer do what repairs are needed.

[Smylinacha]

Well when I left CT I had around 9K on the Spyder. I was close to 10K when mine locked up down in TN.

[stgilmer]

When mine locked up it had exactly 283 miles on it.

[bubbahetzel]

Mine is a 2009 SM5 and it first started having steering issues around 5000 miles. I took it in to have the recall done, and it handled better than it ever did. It felt like I did not have power steering before the update. It worked good, but occasionaly the steering would still lock up. It was like the handlebars were locked and you could not turn them. I would push on the bars trying to turn, but nothing doing. Then when it finally broke loose you would here a snap then you had to correct your steering or hold on. Mine is in the shop now, waiting on a new DPS. I hope that this corrects the problem. Having the steering lock up, doing about 70mph on the freeway is not fun. Carlo at BRP has been working with my dealership to make sure the problem gets fixed. I think that BRP is setting themselves up for a major lawsuit. They know there is a problem but unless you e-mail them or call them they are not to worried about it.

[ZRCAT600]

I haven't had any problems yet with mine. I was just curious about when people started having them. I guess I will just be ready for whatever/whenever. They sure are fun though!!

[Way2Fast]

BRP should learn a lesson from Toyota. I would think that Toyota vehicles probably out number Spyders by several thousand to one, yet there has only been a small number of instances where an unwanted acceleration has taken place. There may have been fewer Toyota acceleration issues than there are Spyder steering issues, yet Toyota came up to bat and took on the problem. They did a massive recall, stopped sales and manufacturing until they could get to the bottom of the problem.. They did what was best for their customers safety. Unlike BRP. who continues to worm their way out of the issues affecting their customers well being and safety.

The answers to this post only confirm that a steering glitch migh occur on any Spyder, regardless of the mileage. Just because the vast majority of owners have yet to experience a problem, they can not assume they are out of th woods and will never have one.

[BLACK WIDOW]

BRP should learn a lesson from Toyota. I would think that Toyota vehicles probably out number Spyders by several thousand to one, yet there has only been a small number of instances where an unwanted acceleration has taken place. There may have been fewer Toyota acceleration issues than there are Spyder steering issues, yet Toyota came up to bat and took on the problem. They did a massive recall, stopped sales and manufacturing until they could get to the bottom of the problem.. They did what was best for their customers safety. Unlike BRP. who continues to worm their way out of the issues affecting their customers well being and safety.

The answers to this post only confirm that a steering glitch migh occur on any Spyder, regardless of the mileage. Just because the vast majority of owners have yet to experience a problem, they can not assume they are out of th woods and will never have one.

Think I heard on the news that Toyota was recalling approximately 9,000,000 autos. They may not all have the problem but they will be recalled and verified.

[docdoru]

61 K...

[bjt]

... yet Toyota came up to bat and took on the problem. They did a massive recall, stopped sales and manufacturing until they could get to the bottom of the problem.. They did what was best for their customers safety. Unlike BRP. who continues to worm their way out of the issues affecting their customers well being and safety.

I read that the U.S. government forced Toyota into action. They didn't do this massive recall and stop sales of most of the affected vehicles out of any great concern for their customers.

http://jalopnik.com/5458241/toyota-n...ds-forced-them The last sentence in this news blurb shows the concern Toyota has for it's customers.

This is part of the Detroit News article and interview that is referenced in that link...

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood told Chicago radio station WGN that the government asked Toyota to stop selling the vehicles.

LaHood said, "The reason Toyota decided to do the recall and to stop manufacturing was because we asked them to."

A Toyota spokesman, Mike Michels, said Tuesday the automaker expects to have a remedy in "weeks, not months."

Officials said NHTSA first contacted Toyota Friday, after seeing news reports of Toyota's plans to continue selling defective vehicles.
It wasn't until around noon on Tuesday that Toyota informed safety regulators it would halt sales.

Under Chapter 301 of the Motor Safety Code, Toyota can't continue to sell the defective vehicles unless it has a remedy.
The Detroit News has learned that NHTSA is also investigating whether the defective pedals in the Toyota recall, made by Elkhart, Ind.-based auto supplier CTS Corp., are on any other automaker's vehicles. CTS didn't immediately respond to a request seeking comment.

The NHTSA's Strickland declined to discuss the chain of events in detail.

"At this point, you need to talk to Toyota about those decisions," he said. "We'll be continuing to work with Toyota and having conversations."
Strickland said in taking the action "Toyota was complying with the law."

"They consulted with the agency. We informed them of the obligations, and they complied," he said.

Last Thursday, Toyota recalled 2.3 million vehicles after two recent incidents in New Jersey and Texas were under investigation by NHTSA, making the decision to recall the vehicles without figuring out how to fix the problem.

But Toyota had a legal requirement to stop selling the models. It isn't clear why Toyota continued to sell the models for another five days.
Toyota faces further questions because similar pedals that are at issue in the United States are on some vehicles in Europe. The automaker hasn't decided what it will do in Europe. Beginning in December 2008, Toyota received complaints in Europe about the sticky accelerator pedals on its Aygo and Yaris vehicles.


From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100...#ixzz0eCUYQV3S

[docdoru]

Pirelli the best...

[Way2Fast]

I read that the U.S. government forced Toyota into action. They didn't do this massive recall and stop sales of most of the affected vehicles out of any great concern for their customers.

http://jalopnik.com/5458241/toyota-n...ds-forced-them The last sentence in this news blurb shows the concern Toyota has for it's customers.

This is part of the Detroit News article and interview that is referenced in that link...

Interesting reading. Now why didn't the government do the same to BRP? If it's a law, it should apply to all manufacturers.

[TexasTripod]

Mine started acting up today with 8500 miles.

[czdaryle]

I'm hoping that something happens before spring riding and I'm not the causuality that causes the goverment to force BRP to do something...on the bright side if something happens my family will be taken care of...already told the wife what to do and what to have the bike look at

[bone crusher]

I'm hoping that something happens before spring riding and I'm not the causuality that causes the goverment to force BRP to do something...on the bright side if something happens my family will be taken care of...already told the wife what to do and what to have the bike look at

That's horrible...let's hope BRP can get these faulty units taken care of ASAP...

[Wheelz]

Mine went at a little past 19,5k and the new DPS, just under 1 tank full of gas in the twisties.

Yes, I too would hear this audible "POP" and the errors would start scrolling and then into "Limp Home Mode". This i could hear just sitting at a stop light and turning the bars very slightly (left to right) when you feel its trying to assist..you feel this "pop" thru the bars...

Mine is a 2009 SM5 and it first started having steering issues around 5000 miles. I took it in to have the recall done, and it handled better than it ever did. It felt like I did not have power steering before the update. It worked good, but occasionaly the steering would still lock up. It was like the handlebars were locked and you could not turn them. I would push on the bars trying to turn, but nothing doing. Then when it finally broke loose you would here a snap ...<snip>. .

[ZRCAT600]

What percentage of spyders owners have had the steering issues would you guess? I am just wondering if it's allot or if it just seems like allot because it's on this board?

When it does happen can you steer through it or is it just locked?

I just went out and ran the spyder for a few minutes yesterday and it sounds so sweet. I can't wait for spring!

[Way2Fast]

What percentage of spyders owners have had the steering issues would you guess? I am just wondering if it's allot or if it just seems like allot because it's on this board?

When it does happen can you steer through it or is it just locked?

I just went out and ran the spyder for a few minutes yesterday and it sounds so sweet. I can't wait for spring!

Only a fraction of Spyder owners frequent online forums. It's probably impossible to know what the actual percentage of owners having problems is. It is probably a small number, but would seem to be growing.

There is more than one type of steering malfunction experienced by owners. Not all have had the "lock up" problem. In my case the steering, with no warning, just decided to make a sharp left into and across the opposing traffic lane. If I could pick the "problem" before hand, I'd much rather experience a lock up than what my Spyder did.

[ZRCAT600]

That would be way not cool! Were you able to correct quickly. How fast were you going.

[Recluze]

I have had the problem three times and I forget the mileage of each but my first was pretty early on. The last was today after 37,000. It had been good for about 10,000 miles but it is back again. I am pulling the fuse and seeing if I can live with it that way. Otherwise it is adios.