Drastic measures: Voluntary grounding?

[DynamoBT]

Instead of waiting on BRP to announce a grounding of the "fleet". What would happen if individuals grounded their own individual Spyder? Maybe if one or two owners did this it wouldn't amount to much. But if a large number of owners did this, it sure would get BRP's attention.

I'm just about at this point. I can't in good conscience put hubby on the back and ryde off without a care. Not too sure I want to risk my life to a DPS caused accident either. So what's the alternative? Volunarily take my Spyder off the road for a year. If in that time BRP does not come up with a definitive diagnosis and fix for all the DPS failures, then I'll take my losses and get rid of my Spyder even if it's for scrap.

I don't have the choice of moving back to two wheels because off a nerve problem in my left leg. It's either the Spyder for me or nothing.

I am honestly to goodness fed up with this whole issue. I'll bet some of you are too. I got the Spyder because of its safety features. If the damned thing isn't safe, what's the point of having it?

[spyryder]

NO WAY am I grounding my Spyder.

[MarkLawson]

It would seem to me that those who are seriously concerned would certainly voluntarily park their Spyder now.

[jgwoods]

Instead of waiting on BRP to announce a grounding of the "fleet". What would happen if individuals grounded their own individual Spyder? Maybe if one or two owners did this it wouldn't amount to much. But if a large number of owners did this, it sure would get BRP's attention.

I'm just about at this point. I can't in good conscience put hubby on the back and ryde off without a care. Not too sure I want to risk my life to a DPS caused accident either. So what's the alternative? Volunarily take my Spyder off the road for a year. If in that time BRP does not come up with a definitive diagnosis and fix for all the DPS failures, then I'll take my losses and get rid of my Spyder even if it's for scrap.

I don't have the choice of moving back to two wheels because off a nerve problem in my left leg. It's either the Spyder for me or nothing.

I am honestly to goodness fed up with this whole issue. I'll bet some of you are too. I got the Spyder because of its safety features. If the damned thing isn't safe, what's the point of having it?

Maybe you should remove "Happy Spyder owner" from the bottom of your posts.

[DynamoBT]

Good idea. I have.

[truck 85]

they still have your money and your warranty will run out who wins?

[Way2Fast]

they still have your money and your warranty will run out who wins?

I have basically "grounded' my Spyder since having the steering take the vehicle control away from me. I have only used it for neighborhood jaunts, just to keep the fluids circulating. Even with both DPS fuses pulled., I just don't trust it because I think the problem goes beyond the power steering. BRP may have my money but at least I still have my life !! I have already discouraged others from purchasing a Spyder and will due my best to see that everyone I encounter "keeps there money" and doesn't purchase this POS !! If and when BRP finally fixes the issues, they will be repairing my Spyder for no cost, warranty or not even if it takes a lawsuit to force them to do so.

[spyryder]

I have basically "grounded' my Spyder since having the steering take the vehicle control away from me. I have only used it for neighborhood jaunts, just to keep the fluids circulating. Even with both DPS fuses pulled., I just don't trust it because I think the problem goes beyond the power steering. BRP may have my money but at least I still have my life !! I have already discouraged others from purchasing a Spyder and will due my best to see that everyone I encounter "keeps there money" and doesn't purchase this POS !! If and when BRP finally fixes the issues, they will be repairing my Spyder for no cost, warranty or not even if it takes a lawsuit to force them to do so.

Just curious.....why did you buy a Spyder in the first place? Haven't you had issues with their other products?

[DynamoBT]

I have basically "grounded' my Spyder since having the steering take the vehicle control away from me. I have only used it for neighborhood jaunts, just to keep the fluids circulating. Even with both DPS fuses pulled., I just don't trust it because I think the problem goes beyond the power steering. BRP may have my money but at least I still have my life !! I have already discouraged others from purchasing a Spyder and will due my best to see that everyone I encounter "keeps there money" and doesn't purchase this POS !! If and when BRP finally fixes the issues, they will be repairing my Spyder for no cost, warranty or not even if it takes a lawsuit to force them to do so.

Exactly. My life is worth more than the $15,000 I have wrapped up in the machine. If no fix is found, I'm prepared to take what I can get for it as scrap. But I'm also patient. I'm willing to wait this out to see where it goes.

[Way2Fast]

Just curious.....why did you buy a Spyder in the first place? Haven't you had issues with their other products?

I have an older Sea-doo PWC, my wife has a newer GTX, both were relatively trouble free considering the problems many have had with the super charged Sea-doos. ( Based on my knowledge from owning a repair/performance shop devoted to PWC and a family member who was a BRP employee) The only close call we had with my wifes ski is when the fuel pump craped out during a high speed turn which caused the ski to loose steering and slide sidways into a marsh. Luckily there were no objects in the out of control skis path other than the mudbank it ended up on. I purchased the Spyder because I liked the principle behind it. If it performed as intended it would be a safer alternative to a 2 wheeled bike, especially for 2 up riding. Maybe the "IF" should be capitalized.

[SpyderWolf]

I believe that anyone who does not feel safe on their Spyder should voluntarily park it, just like they would with any other vehicle. At the same time there are many of us who have not had any steering issues whatsoever and are not going to park ours for a just in case. I am aware that I could potentially have a problem, but I could also get run over by a bus tomorrow. That is my frame of mind, and not meant to belittle the seriousness of the problem you are having.

I don't think it will ever happen, but for the sake of argument let's say everyone did park their Spyders for a year. How would that have any negative impact on BRP, or get the problem fixed any faster?

I wish you the best in trying to figure out how you are going to handle this with BRP.

[tatt2r]

Had my dps replaced works fine drive it 12
months out of year I will not stop riding till they rip my rotting dead hand from the grip ... Not riding it for a year .... A don't think so .... It's a motorcycle u could hit a deer a couple people have u gonna only ride in parking lots to avoid that then chance getting hit by a car dee almost got hit by a chockblock that bounced out of tow truck if she was on a regular bike she would not be here right now.... Stop riding for a year what do u really think brp would care if u did that . Keep an eye on it u feel a problem go to your dealer

[Smylinacha]

Nah, I wouldn't stop riding my - I wouldn't ground it. Plain and simple. Come Spring I will ryde it. If it acts up again I will get rid of it. If it causes me any harm I have a very good lawyer.

[tatt2r]

Nah, I wouldn't stop riding my - I wouldn't ground it. Plain and simple. Come Spring I will ryde it. If it acts up again I will get rid of it. If it causes me any harm I have a very good lawyer.

I knew there was a reason besides your husband I liked you

[Smylinacha]

I knew there was a reason besides your husband I liked you

[boborgera]

I believe that anyone who does not feel safe on their Spyder should voluntarily park it, just like they would with any other vehicle. At the same time there are many of us who have not had any steering issues whatsoever and are not going to park ours for a just in case. I am aware that I could potentially have a problem, but I could also get run over by a bus tomorrow. That is my frame of mind, and not meant to belittle the seriousness of the problem you are having.

I don't think it will ever happen, but for the sake of argument let's say everyone did park their Spyders for a year. How would that have any negative impact on BRP, or get the problem fixed any faster?

I wish you the best in trying to figure out how you are going to handle this with BRP.

I have steering issues, But i still ride every day i just stay aware, just like I'm aware of all hazards. When you're out on a bike you have to be ready for any thing and every thing. I've kissed pavement a few times. Bikes are dangerous. I'm sure you heard this from all your Friends and relatives. Especially from the ones that don't ride. But that's my thoughts only, every body has to do what they think is best for them self.
P/S getting back to the steering i still think it's electrical, wrong signal being sent though the wires.

[bone crusher]

Exactly. My life is worth more than the $15,000 I have wrapped up in the machine. If no fix is found, I'm prepared to take what I can get for it as scrap. But I'm also patient. I'm willing to wait this out to see where it goes.

Cut your losses and sell your bike now...if you are that concerned and don't trust the manufacturer, then get out before something can possibly go wrong.

I'm not one to bash BRP. I have been very happy with my Spyder and have not had any of the problems that some here have experienced. I am willing to bet that the vast majority of Spyder owners don't have any problems at all. The small sampling, here, on this forum does not translate to squat in regards to all the Spyders on the road...no assumptions can be made.

Find a good dealer and make sure they take care of your problem. If you cannot get a resolution that makes you content, then sell your bike and get something else. Live is too short to stress over a stinkin' motorcycle. It's a toy and if you feel as though it is unsafe, then get rid of it...there are many other options.

I think BRP has been doing a good job with being involved and getting issues resolved. There are always going to be problems, and with problems, complainers. Nothing is ever perfect and with a new class of vehicle, like the Spyder, there are gonna be problems. When I bought my Spyder, I knew that this might be a possibility, yet I still bought because this bike was the coolest on the road and I wanted one.

If you or anyone else is having regrets, cut your losses and get out now...no shame and you'll feel better...

For those telling everyone not to buy a Spyder, you are basing your bashing on YOUR experience only...not the 15,000 or so bikes that are ON THE ROAD!...pretty short-sighted, IMHO.

[BillGargan]

So, cut off your nose to spite BRP!!!!!!

Seems a bit foolish.

Ride -- lots -- then write them a letter of concern when you are in a good mood.

[boborgera]

So, cut off your nose to spite BRP!!!!!!

Seems a bit foolish.

Ride -- lots -- then write them a letter of concern when you are in a good mood.

[Way2Fast]

Cut your losses and sell your bike now...if you are that concerned and don't trust the manufacturer, then get out before something can possibly go wrong.

I'm not one to bash BRP. I have been very happy with my Spyder and have not had any of the problems that some here have experienced. I am willing to bet that the vast majority of Spyder owners don't have any problems at all. The small sampling, here, on this forum does not translate to squat in regards to all the Spyders on the road...no assumptions can be made.

Find a good dealer and make sure they take care of your problem. If you cannot get a resolution that makes you content, then sell your bike and get something else. Live is too short to stress over a stinkin' motorcycle. It's a toy and if you feel as though it is unsafe, then get rid of it...there are many other options.




I think BRP has been doing a good job with being involved and getting issues resolved. There are always going to be problems, and with problems, complainers. Nothing is ever perfect and with a new class of vehicle, like the Spyder, there are gonna be problems. When I bought my Spyder, I knew that this might be a possibility, yet I still bought because this bike was the coolest on the road and I wanted one.

If you or anyone else is having regrets, cut your losses and get out now...no shame and you'll feel better...

For those telling everyone not to buy a Spyder, you are basing your bashing on YOUR experience only...not the 15,000 or so bikes that are ON THE ROAD!...pretty short-sighted, IMHO.

Sure...sell the POS Spyder to cut "your" losses and pass the buck onto some poor individual who probably knows nothing about it's dangerous steering problems. Is that is good advice ? What has happened to man's humanity to man and to the other creatures who inhabit this world? Has the quest for me...me...me along with the God Almighty Buck destroyed decency? People like you make me SICK !!!!

[BajaRon]

Ground my Spyder??? Well, sure! It's only been off the ground a few times anyway.

There is this drop-off hump in the road on a straightaway near my house. The speed limit is 45 but if you hit it at around 65 you can get some reasonable air....

So whether grounded or flying I'm having a GREAT TIME!

[GaryTheBadger]

I did the coil wires update, does that mean my Spyder is grounded?

Seriously, rather than try to make a political statement by getting a bunch of Spyder owners to stop ryding (doen't seem favorable based on the replies), either relentlessly escalate your specific issues up the BRP chain of command, or sell it and move on.

[SpydeeBite2]

I have basically "grounded' my Spyder since having the steering take the vehicle control away from me. I have only used it for neighborhood jaunts, just to keep the fluids circulating. Even with both DPS fuses pulled., I just don't trust it because I think the problem goes beyond the power steering. BRP may have my money but at least I still have my life !! I have already discouraged others from purchasing a Spyder and will due my best to see that everyone I encounter "keeps there money" and doesn't purchase this POS !! If and when BRP finally fixes the issues, they will be repairing my Spyder for no cost, warranty or not even if it takes a lawsuit to force them to do so.

I find it quite interesting that you are keeping your "POS" even though you believe it is unsafe and may do you harm yet you continue to ride it just on "neighbor jaunts" where I assume you believe you will not be involved in an accident or otherwise get hurt. Interesting.

[Derwin]

Has the quest for me...me...me along with the God Almighty Buck destroyed decency? People like you make me SICK !!!!

Wow! Where did that come from?

The ONLY thing bonecrusher was trying to say was that he believes in the product and/or company, and that if a person no longer does, that they can go ahead and SELL their spyder. What's the big deal about that statement? rather innocent if you ask me.

I'm in the market for a Spyder, and these questions about the steering concern me. But, as many have said, it's only a small fraction of units that have been affected. Although I wouldn't want MY unit to malfunction while on the highway with it!

I agree with you, bonecrusher... If a person doesn't trust, or feel safe on, their vehicle, they should sell it. Nothing wrong with that. Heck, I'm doing the same thing with my MP3 500.

Derwin

[Sarge707]

I,m grounded because of Cold and Snow and Salty roads. If I could afford the appropriate Cold Weather gear I,d be out riding this afternoon cause its about 35.
I am going to warm My Baby up and go around my street a couple times in 1st and 2nd gear!!