Does a 2023 F3 Ltd have an air valve for ACS under the seat?

[Elwood58]

On my old RT-S there was a Schraeder Valve under the seat, even though it had the automatic air suspension. On my 2023 F3, there does not seem to be a Schraeder valve. Am I missing something?

[Peter Aawen]

You're not missing anything - the newer up-market models don't have the underseat valves.

I think it was about 2022 that they went fully automatic, dispensing with the valve under the seat completely, but still having all the rest of the Automatic Suspension/Ride Height setting system. I'm sure someone will chime in with the correct year if I'm wrong about that.

The 'Soft/Hard' dash switch thing was always a bit of a con to suck in the un-knowing tho... : If you had/have the Auto System on those earlier up-spec models rather than the manually set pressure on the base models or an owner modified full manual system, it didn't really matter what you set the level or air-bag pressure at, either by using the dash 'Soft/Hard' switch or by adding air manually via the under-seat valve; cos as soon as you started riding, the system would revert to whatever pressure it took to maintain the preset ride height, adding or bleeding off air to suit!!

And AFAIK, the only way to change that pre-set ride height was thru the appropriate BUDS setting!

[Deanna777]

On my old RT-S there was a Schraeder Valve under the seat, even though it had the automatic air suspension. On my 2023 F3, there does not seem to be a Schraeder valve. Am I missing something?

Your 2023 F3 Ltd does not have the Schraeder valve. It has Sachs Shocks with a Self-leveling Air Pre-load Adjustment System. You will hear a sound/and feel the self-leveling system doing its thing as you load it up &/or ride, it is all automatic. So No, you are not missing anything.

I have a 2023 F3 Ltd Special Series and it too has the same Sachs Shocks and the Self-leveling Air Pre-load Adjustment System.

Deanna