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    Default Anyone know where I can buy 2 sets of Vredestiein Quatrac in Oklahoma City?

    Question - does anyone know where I can buy 2 sets of Vredestiein Quatrac for our F3T's, a '16 & '17. If the supplier could mount the tires too, that would be a +.

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    I buy mine from Tire Rack and have shipped to my home. Local tire store then mounts and balances them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjinaz86323 View Post
    I buy mine from Tire Rack and have shipped to my home. Local tire store then mounts and balances them.
    .... If a warehouse NEAR you has them, otherwise they won't ship them .... because they ship for free .... Also try Discount Tire DIRECT, they always have SALES on tires if you buy FOUR of the same brand and size .... good luck .... PS: DO NOT TELL THEM YOU ARE PUTTING THEM ON A SPYDER .... It's a legal issue ....Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    .... If a warehouse NEAR you has them, otherwise they won't ship them .... because they ship for free .... Also try Discount Tire DIRECT, they always have SALES on tires if you buy FOUR of the same brand and size .... good luck .... PS: DO NOT TELL THEM YOU ARE PUTTING THEM ON A SPYDER .... It's a legal arse covering issue/excuse ....Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Aawen View Post
    Fixed that bit for you Mike.
    The whole MC argument is based on the "dark side" of using automotive style tires on a 2-wheel, leaning motorcycle. If I bought tires for the rear of a Harley-Davidson Tri-Glide, would they use the same excuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauly1 View Post
    The whole MC argument is based on the "dark side" of using automotive style tires on a 2-wheel, leaning motorcycle. If I bought tires for the rear of a Harley-Davidson Tri-Glide, would they use the same excuse?
    The Government is slow in upgrading their specs/qualifications about tires and the compatibility of the wheels.... When the regs were written .... there were NO Mtc's made with wheels that accepted Auto tires ..... So the regs just say NO MTC's can use " auto tires " period ..... However, if you dig into the regs it states that AUTO tires MUST be used on " J " style rims & wheel BEADS .... that's Exactly what our Spyders have (the same for HD Tri-glides) .... Eventually they will catch up - but I'm not holding my breath as to WHEN that will occur ...... Good Luck ... Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    DO NOT TELL THEM YOU ARE PUTTING THEM ON A SPYDER .... It's a legal issue ....Mike
    LOL... I think he is referring to me as I got a call from the Tire rack technical center when I ordered mine and told them what I was putting it on and I got my hand slapped.

    I promise I won't tell them what I am doing with my tires from here on out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ingramsail View Post
    Question - does anyone know where I can buy 2 sets of Vredestiein Quatrac for our F3T's, a '16 & '17. If the supplier could mount the tires too, that would be a +.

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    I had my rear tire mounted at the Motorcycle Tire Store at 2300 South Agnew. He was able to balance the rear wheel too, whereas many automotive tire shops can't balance the rear wheels. I don't know if he will remove and reinstall the wheel for you or not, I just R&I the wheel myself. He can probably order the Vredestein for you. I personally ordered mine from Tire Rack.com. Just to remove the old tire from the rim, install the replacement tire, and do the balance was $50, but that was about a year ago.
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    Thanks, I'll will place a order with Tire Rack and have the South Agnew mount them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ingramsail View Post
    Thanks, I'll will place a order with Tire Rack and have the South Agnew mount them.
    Just a heads up .... I have done 8+ rear tires .... I had the first one balanced (at a Mtc. shop) ..... the other 7+ (better quality auto tires) weren't..... They mounted them using the red/yel. dots as normally prescribed and they all ran fine without needing any weights.... Good Luck .... Mike
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    Last time I ordered from Tire Rack I checked the box that stated I was not telling them what it's for. I still got a call asking me what it was going on. I told them it was for a custom light weight trailer. He said we have trailer tires for that. I then told him I am currently running these tires on the trailer with great results. He then said ok and shipped them to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    The Government is slow in upgrading their specs/qualifications about tires and the compatibility of the wheels.... When the regs were written .... there were NO Mtc's made with wheels that accepted Auto tires ..... So the regs just say NO MTC's can use " auto tires " period ..... However, if you dig into the regs it states that AUTO tires MUST be used on " J " style rims & wheel BEADS .... that's Exactly what our Spyders have (the same for HD Tri-glides) .... Eventually they will catch up - but I'm not holding my breath as to WHEN that will occur ...... Good Luck ... Mike
    If pressed, tell them it is a custom vehicle with "J" style rims.

    I've had tires mounted and balanced at a local Discount Tire in Stillwater, MN. No questions and the manager even thought the bike was cool. I removed and replaced the wheels from the Spyder. They couldn't spin-balance the rear wheel, but I did that with an old-school, static balancing method (similar to what we used to balance huge surface grinding wheels in a mold shop).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Just a heads up .... I have done 8+ rear tires .... I had the first one balanced (at a Mtc. shop) ..... the other 7+ (better quality auto tires) weren't..... They mounted them using the red/yel. dots as normally prescribed and they all ran fine without needing any weights.... Good Luck .... Mike
    Just as a side note when I had my rear end damage fixed the dealership that fixed it used a 3 0z bag of balance beads on the kenda they put on the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloverHillCrawler View Post
    Just as a side note when I had my rear end damage fixed the dealership that fixed it used a 3 0z bag of balance beads on the kenda they put on the rear.
    KENDA tire ...... and Balance Beads ..... That's why I said ....Better Quality AUTO tire ..... the Quality track record for Kenda's is abysmal at best ..... JMHO ( and others ) ....Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    KENDA tire ...... and Balance Beads ..... That's why I said ....Better Quality AUTO tire ..... the Quality track record for Kenda's is abysmal at best ..... JMHO ( and others ) ....Mike
    Didn't have a choice on what PROGRESSIVE would approve for the repair, no worries though.

    I'll burn this Kenda up in 6k or less like the original and I can get a Quatrac back on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauly1 View Post
    If pressed, tell them it is a custom vehicle with "J" style rims.

    I've had tires mounted and balanced at a local Discount Tire in Stillwater, MN. No questions and the manager even thought the bike was cool. I removed and replaced the wheels from the Spyder. They couldn't spin-balance the rear wheel, but I did that with an old-school, static balancing method (similar to what we used to balance huge surface grinding wheels in a mold shop).

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    I used to use Ride On, but I found that if the Spyder sits in one spot too long all the Ride On ends up in the bottom of the tire and it takes 3 to 8 miles (depending on air temperatures) to rebalance resulting in a ride that fells like it will shake the Spyder apart. Decided I didn't like that so I now balance the tires myself using the spin method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PW2013STL View Post
    I used to use Ride On, but I found that if the Spyder sits in one spot too long all the Ride On ends up in the bottom of the tire and it takes 3 to 8 miles (depending on air temperatures) to rebalance resulting in a ride that fells like it will shake the Spyder apart. Decided I didn't like that so I now balance the tires myself using the spin method.
    Yup ... That! Living in Wisconsin, my Spyder sits months in a unheated garage. My inaugural spring ride is likely only in the 40*s. Ride On takes FOREVER to warm up and disperse. I'll avoid highways until that is accomplished.


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