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    Default Monster vs. Wick-It vs. Denali vs. ??

    Looking to reflash my bike's ECU for better-than-stock performance.

    Anybody have any experience with these guys ?? What reputable company does good, timely work ??

    Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper6 View Post
    Looking to reflash my bike's ECU for better-than-stock performance.

    Anybody have any experience with these guys ?? What reputable company does good, timely work ??

    Thanks in advance.
    " DENALI " .....I know they make Great Lighting products .... have not heard they doing ECU's ./.... Mike

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    I have Monster stage two by Wick-It. What are you looking for? Works well and it took a week + shipping time to get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper6 View Post
    Looking to reflash my bike's ECU for better-than-stock performance.

    Anybody have any experience with these guys ?? What reputable company does good, timely work ??

    Thanks in advance.
    I went the way of Monster Fuel Injection.
    Purchased the programing tool and did the firmware install myself…. Stage 1.
    Yeah, glad I did it. Runs cooler seems like, cooling fans come on 9 degrees cooler now. Fuel mileage dropped approximately 3 mpg. Above 4 k rpm seems to come alive, off idle throttle is enhanced (scared me at first). Out of pocket$ $$$$….. if ya got money to burn….. try it, you’ll like it.
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    Hi Lou, You know I've had a flash for a long time. Absolutely no problems. Got mine done from Monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    " DENALI " .....I know they make Great Lighting products .... have not heard they doing ECU's ./.... Mike
    Could be a different Denali.

    But I think they only wok on Can-Am side-by-sides, because I didn't see any pics of Spyders on their website after I posted my thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dogs View Post
    I have Monster stage two by Wick-It. What are you looking for? Works well and it took a week + shipping time to get it.
    Looking for just a little bit better overall performance. Will probably stick to Stage I, not sure yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerchris1270 View Post
    I went the way of Monster Fuel Injection.
    Purchased the programing tool and did the firmware install myself…. Stage 1.
    Yeah, glad I did it. Runs cooler seems like, cooling fans come on 9 degrees cooler now. Fuel mileage dropped approximately 3 mpg. Above 4 k rpm seems to come alive, off idle throttle is enhanced (scared me at first). Out of pocket$ $$$$….. if ya got money to burn….. try it, you’ll like it.
    Programming tool ??

    I didn't realize there was such a thing. Can you toggle between stock performance and enhanced ?? How difficult is it to work with the tool ?? How much was it ??

    I'll probably do the Stage I mod, though I'm not sure yet because it'll all depend on how Stage I feels.

    Thanks in advance.
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    I know you do. I read "ECU FLASH IS GREAT" at the bottom of your signature every time you post, LOL.

    Do you have the Stage II ?? I remember you showing me where to locate the duct when you did the airbox mod.

    I'll most likely do the Stage I, so you'll still be the fastest bike on our riding group.

    Speaking of which, what's the deal with Ebbetts Pass ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper6 View Post
    Programming tool ??

    I didn't realize there was such a thing. Can you toggle between stock performance and enhanced ?? How difficult is it to work with the tool ?? How much was it ??

    I'll probably do the Stage I mod, though I'm not sure yet because it'll all depend on how Stage I feels.

    Thanks in advance.
    The tool is for 2017 and up models only, FYI. As for Stage 1 vs 2, I have had both and if you are always wanting more performance all the time like me, you will quickly find yourself looking for more... I would suggest saving yourself time and $ and go straight to the Stage 2! ENJOY!!

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    Have you considered a Pedalbox or similar? While it is true that these devices do not increase potential. They do significantly increase actual performance. First, when you ask for WOT, you get WOT. And you get it right away. With the stock setup. The ECU builds in quite a bit of lag.

    Second. It eliminates the ECU backing off of WOT when it feels you don't need it, (even though you've got the hand grip all the way to lock). So, while these devices do not increase actual HP or Torque. They allow you to utilize everything the engine has at all times and in the time frame that you want it. It is quite impressive. And for the price. It has a big bang for the buck.

    I would like to see a power curve graphic comparing a Pedalbox bike to the ECU flash bikes. I know the comparison to an OEM bike is impressive. But the stock ECU programming restricts performance to a fair degree. This would show how much improvement comes from increased HP & Torque. And how much is just letting the engine do what it was always capable of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper6 View Post
    Looking for just a little bit better overall performance. Will probably stick to Stage I, not sure yet.
    That's fine if all you want is a little better, but there will be times you'll want the whole enchilada, and with stage II you've got it. You have to be careful with it because when it comes on at lower speeds and high RPM it can get you into trouble in a flash. Also, it requires 91(+) fuel. But that being said, when wanted and used responsibly it's a great option to have.

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    Guess I’m biased but I would go with Monster FI Stage II.


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    Nice bike, I am starting my 22F3S build, did you do install your MFI stage 2 before or after the cat delete? If before did you notice a difference adding the cat delete besides increased noise? I see you also have the Sinister Exhaust so now the Spyder must be quite loud at WOT?

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    I'm probably going to have the stage 1 done this winter, Monster told me that it will eliminate that stupid wait to start BS where your supposed to read the safety card. I do have the Pedal box and it works great but for me the flash is worth getting rid of that Wait to start BS.
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