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    Default Hydration on long rides

    I have a cup holder on the bars of my 2016 F3-t, but it’s a pain to drink while driving. The Camelback systems look good to use, but really don’t want to wear a backpack.
    Has anyone mounted one as a tank bag?
    How do you keep hydrated on long rides?
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    I'm quite prejudiced on the topic because I've worn a Camelbak for almost 40 years as a long distance bicyclist. Do you have a driver's backrest? Do you ride two up? There are hydration packs that can be worn at the waist. IMO, there is no better way to stay hydrated and there are scientific studies that show it. You don't need to try one that carries five gallons; try a smaller size in a waist pack.
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    A small hydration pack in the tank bag (used to go under the dog) & a larger one on the Rivco expandable trunk rack behind the pillion seat.
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    http://www.lamonstergarage.com/can-a...lamonster-ips/ Wife loves it on her 16 F3T---especially as her med condition requires staying hydrated.

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    Used a Camelbak for years for iron butt rides. Hydration is critical and a water bottle in the trunk does no good. If it's close and easy you'll use it. In hot weather I put ice in it and it helps keep you cool with it on your back.

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    I've thought about using a Camelbak, but I can't get the mouthpiece under my full-coverage helmet. The chin piece doesn't have enough room to allow use. If you have a 3/4 helmet, there's obviously no problem. So what's the fix?

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    MNF3...……………..try a insulated alum small dia tall container. bought mine at Walmart. it has flip top spout, that works by thumb, internal straw that goes to bottom, so you don't have to tilt head. I think it might be a for bicycles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Baxter View Post
    I've thought about using a Camelbak, but I can't get the mouthpiece under my full-coverage helmet. The chin piece doesn't have enough room to allow use. If you have a 3/4 helmet, there's obviously no problem. So what's the fix?
    My camelback tube comes into the helmet (Shoei GT-Air, so think 'close fitting' ) just below my left ear & behind/under the angle of my jaw before it then runs in the angle between the fabric chin cover & the helmet chin-bar along my jaw-line to put the 'bite-mouthpiece' immediately in front of my mouth. It's a bit tight in there immediately in front of my mouth, but I'm not aware of it anywhere else (& I usually have a fairly full beard too!) & it doesn't interfere with my speaking clarity plus it makes it easy to grab the mouthpiece with my teeth & take a drink whenever I need/want to.

    Often, all it takes is a little bit of lateral thought - everyone usually has that hollow below their ear, and very few helmets block that completely with anything more than some soft cushioning fabric covered foam..... then unless the chin bar of the full-face helmet is REALLY close to your face, the angle between the chin-bar & the bottom fabric chin cover forms an ideal hollow for 'drinking tube' to run along, so for most, the only issue will be to choose where to put the mouthpiece so they can access it.... that is, if they just don't keep it between their teeth/in the side of their mouth all the time, which I often find myself doing when I'm ryding solo/on the track &/or concentrating strongly on the ryding!

    Anyhow, some food for thought - that's what I do, & it works for me & many I've suggested/shown it to.... Over to you! Good Luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Baxter View Post
    I've thought about using a Camelbak, but I can't get the mouthpiece under my full-coverage helmet. The chin piece doesn't have enough room to allow use. If you have a 3/4 helmet, there's obviously no problem. So what's the fix?
    Might you have room to use a straight bite valve, raise your face shield and stuff the tube in to get a drink? I wear a Shoei Neotec and sunglasses and I raise the chin piece to take a drink.
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    Thanks for the replies! Ice in the backpack would make it much more tolerable to wear.
    I see a lot of knock-offs, are any of the cheaper ones worth it?
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    I forgot my camelbak and bought a cheapo. Leaked and was useless in one trip. My 100 ounce camelbak is 10 years old, and works perfectly!
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    Several various ways to try, ice in camelback (or others) has helped keep me cool too
    Started using when mowing yards, cup holders on my bikes have been disappointing having few bottles blow out & have to go fetch, rather than litter Prefer the in frunk holder & yeti currently. IMG_0801.jpg Combine my hydration with lil stretch walking around wherever. May take longer getting there but I’m out to enjoy not endure. with camelbacks or similar various ways to snake the mouthpiece & keep accessible like looping into button hole or a zipper pull. Cortech Sequoia jacket comes with a hydration bladder pack & appropriately fitted to incorporate with the jackets various functions
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    I have a dry bag strapped to the passenger seat and I strap the Camelbak to it. When I wore it, it would get bound on my backrest and that was uncomfortable
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    Regarding bicycles, I have been using various models of Camelbacks for years.

    My wife and her sister are also off road cyclists. Her sister is a fashion diva, often believing reviews as gospel. For whatever reason, when my wife decided to get me a new Camelback as a gift, she bought an Osprey brand instead. Overall, the Osprey is not bad. The huge disappointment with the Osprey was the bite valve. Ultimately converted the Osprey to a Camelback bite valve.

    On the Spyder though, I installed a Butler cup holder designed for insulated metal cups. Butler includes a special lid and straw setup. Overall using it while riding is not bad and it stays cold a long time. We too ride with full coverage Shoei GT Air helmets. Between the backrest and a passenger, there is no space for a Camelback.

    If you were creative, I am sure a small insulated reservoir could be placed in the trunk or side bag, then use a low pressure pump and control valve to get water without sucking it from the reservoir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNF3 View Post
    Thanks for the replies! Ice in the backpack would make it much more tolerable to wear.
    I see a lot of knock-offs, are any of the cheaper ones worth it?
    In a word, NO. Once on a bicycle trip I forgot my Camelbak and bought a cheapo and, like
    Joe's it leaked and the bite valve was terrible.
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    Pursuant to this discussion I just bought this on Amazon I thought I could attach it some where with the hooks, I have a cup holder now from Diamond R and it works very well except for one thing, the insulated cup is too small, only 20 oz and I can go thru that in a heart beat.

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    Problem solved:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe T. View Post
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    We use camelbacks - mine on my back, w's on the trunk rack. Stop for gas, fill em up with water/icd, ride till empty. Works well for us for miles and miles. Even to Northern Canada. Even in triple digit temps.
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    Camelpak again here but my Klim jacket has a special pocket built in for it in the back so don't need to use the backpack part if I don't want to. Also because the jacket has back vents it and the camelpak is on the other side of the armour it stays cool.

    I tend to have water mixed with a sports drink in this as the flavour hides any plastic taste and of course the electrolytes in the sports drink help with hydration when I'm riding for a long time (I do iron butt rallies).

    I also have a bicycle water bottle holder attached to the front of one of my paniers. Though I use this water bottle as much to squirt onto my visor to help clean bugs off as to drink from.

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    I’ll check out the jacket, thanks.
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    I must be doing something seriously wrong.

    I have never felt the need to take a sip every few minutes. Like Bfromla (post #12), I combine my hydration with a stretch stop, which usually also includes fueling the cycle and its rider.

    Just out of curiosity, I have a question for all of you that have these elaborate systems on your cycles. When you are NOT riding, do you always have a water source within reach so you can take a sip?

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    I've become addicted to cold water---- and yes I do keep a 20 oz Yeti on hand------ well type 2 diabetes with it's associated meds contribute to this. But I don't drink much of any thing else either.

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    When we went to Grove OK rally last year, Linda decided she had to have cup holders mounted on her RT. She got one from Diamond R. I liked it so well, I had one installed on mine also.

    Fast forward, when I traded the 2011 off for a new 2019 F3, the cup holder moved from bike to bike. We enjoy our cup holders. We do about 1/2 ice cubes and the rest ice water. Stays cool for mostly three hours. We usually pull over for a sip or two every 25 miles or so. It makes for a good stretch and just breaks up the ride a bit.

    On a longer trip, it would be every 50 to 75 miles or so.

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    It is easy to get dehydrated and not realize it. The old rule of thumb is if you don’t have to pee at least every 30 minutes you are not drinking enough, at least when working.
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