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The truth can not be sexist, only human judgement and interpretation can.
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Don't know about the ad as I don't watch TV but it is an interesting bunch of statistics...and a great viewpoint. 
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Hi Bob,
Re: The Fella decided to offer a different viewpoint.
If one wants to be defined by numbers, then it might be important him.
While the numbers are interesting; only the first two hit home. I'm a veteran & former firefighter.
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I'll say this about his Company: they make some really nice-looking timepieces... 
(Okay... I'm a sucker for knives & watches...)
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What's the Gillette thing?
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The Gillette video is so wrong in so many ways. The watch video is great.
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I find these videos about manhood offensive. If we must be told by corporations what manhood/masculinity is, then we have truly failed as men. A real man is a provider, protector, husband, father, friend. a real man loves the Lord, his wife and his family. A real man displays self control and is respectful of others. A real man is tough as nails when he needs to be, soft as a flower when he needs to be as well. He is a great advocate for what he believes and a defender of those less fortunate then him. The gillette video is not masculinity or manhood, neither is the other video. Rather manhood is doing the right thing no matter what. We must teach our sons and grand sons to be men and not fall victim to the mindset that "it's not my fault" or "someone made me do it" or "it's not my responsibility". Take responsibility for your actions right or wrong. Chris
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I am seeing a lot of positive comments on Youtube. Hats off to the man behind this ad.
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 Originally Posted by C. Lee
I find these videos about manhood offensive. If we must be told by corporations what manhood/masculinity is, then we have truly failed as men. A real man is a provider, protector, husband, father, friend. a real man loves the Lord, his wife and his family. A real man displays self control and is respectful of others. A real man is tough as nails when he needs to be, soft as a flower when he needs to be as well. He is a great advocate for what he believes and a defender of those less fortunate then him. The gillette video is not masculinity or manhood, neither is the other video. Rather manhood is doing the right thing no matter what. We must teach our sons and grand sons to be men and not fall victim to the mindset that "it's not my fault" or "someone made me do it" or "it's not my responsibility". Take responsibility for your actions right or wrong. Chris
Very well said Chris.
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What is scary is SJW's are infiltrating large companies. It used to be they where just the local wack jobs on campus. Now they are gaining real power.
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I don't really see a problem with either one, and neither is offensive. The Gillette one is call to eliminate bulling and harassment and the Egard one starts of with some traditional male roles/virtues and then moves on to some male-biased problems (homelessness, suicides....)...?
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Men are also responsible for 90% of all murders, over 90% of all rapes and 80% of crime overall. Men also commit almost all mass shootings with white men being the predominate perpetrator....
Just keeping things in perspective.....
Amazing how many men got triggered by a TV ad.... #sad
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Why does it require belief in a mythical god to be considered a 'real' man? To me, all humans should seek to determine fact from fiction.
"It's called faith because it isn't knowledge" ~ Hitchens
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Just a heads up to everyone, let’s not get into a faith debate. Neither of the videos went there. Given there is no real definition of what is a man but a lot of qualities we’d all agree to, but not necessarily to every one, let’s just accept each other’s interpretation without debate.
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Originally Posted by C. Lee
I find these videos about manhood offensive. If we must be told by corporations what manhood/masculinity is, then we have truly failed as men. A real man is a provider, protector, husband, father, friend. a real man loves the Lord, his wife and his family. A real man displays self control and is respectful of others. A real man is tough as nails when he needs to be, soft as a flower when he needs to be as well. He is a great advocate for what he believes and a defender of those less fortunate then him. The gillette video is not masculinity or manhood, neither is the other video. Rather manhood is doing the right thing no matter what. We must teach our sons and grand sons to be men and not fall victim to the mindset that "it's not my fault" or "someone made me do it" or "it's not my responsibility". Take responsibility for your actions right or wrong. Chris
Well said and necessarily said C.Lee. Presenting men as woosey, non-specific gender beings, or tough disrespectful drop-kicks, has gone on for way too long.
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Originally Posted by LeftCoast
Just a heads up to everyone, let’s not get into a faith debate. Neither of the videos went there. Given there is no real definition of what is a man but a lot of qualities we’d all agree to, but not necessarily to every one, let’s just accept each other’s interpretation without debate.
REAL men will agree with him... 
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Originally Posted by Firefly
Men are also responsible for 90% of all murders, over 90% of all rapes and 80% of crime overall. Men also commit almost all mass shootings with white men being the predominate perpetrator....
Just keeping things in perspective.....
Amazing how many men got triggered by a TV ad.... #sad
remember cat calling is when a man challenges a woman to a political debate.
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Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
remember cat calling is when a man challenges a woman to a political debate.
You watch Ben Shapiro 
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Last edited by CopperSpyder; 01-29-2019 at 04:25 PM.
Reason: Political ad
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Originally Posted by Rogue Hawk
You watch Ben Shapiro
Ben is a pretty sharp fellow. Differ with him at your Own risk.
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