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Will shaft drive be coming to the 1330?
The new Ryker 900cc is an inline 3 cylinder with CVT trans and shaft drive. I wonder if the shaft drive could be coming to the 1330 sometime in the future?
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Shaft on the F3L is the only thing that will get me to trade mine in.
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In the current RT and F3 line my guess is no. In a redesigned (a redesign that's more than just the shaft drive swapped for the belt drive) RT or F3 My guess is yes.
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Not likely...
The Ryker was built from the ground up and therefore it was not hard to do. To re-tool for the F3 and the RT may not be cost effective .Have not seen the transition from engine to shaft so not to say it can't be done....
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Shaft drive never "made it" on motorcycles. So why Can Am?
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On the contrary, shaft drive on motorcycles are a big deal. Pretty much most touring models have it and a fair number of cruisers as well. The sport bikes don't have it because of the HP lost using shaft. Shaft drive is the best and least maintenance of the drive trains available.
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FWIW, ‘Most touring’ is a little bit of a stretch , Harley still commands the largest touring segment and is 100% belt. BMW is ‘still’ plagued with weird shaft drive issues on a system they deployed fully 24 years ago. Shaft is definitely something with plusses but belt drive will take us years into the future with proven reliability also.
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Originally Posted by deer30084
Shaft drive never "made it" on motorcycles. So why Can Am?
I had shaft drive on my 1984 Yamaha Venture 1200, along with removable tail and side bags and fully adjustable handlebars pegs and pedals.
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I've owned 10 bikes so far 4 belt, 4 shaft, 2 chain. My shaft drive were the best. Easy to do tire changes. No adjustments. And no rocks chewing up belts.
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I would think it would make sense for BRP to do the transition from Belt to Shaft as they will have an assembly line already for the Ryker and it would be cost effective for there to be only one final drive (in manufacture, costs and assembly) for both the Spyder & the Ryker models
I don’t think we will get any confirmation of a change for the Spyder models to a shaft drive until they release any changes to the 2020 models their fear would be having belt models left unsold as buyers wait for a shaft model to be available
Maybe that’s why they have reduced the current price of new Spyders to use up existing stock
I would consider replacing my existing 2015 Spyder for a Shaft drive version otherwise I can see no benifit in changiing to a new one as the changes are not offering that much in improvement
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I have had several MC with shaft drive. Including an 84 Venture (like above in post #12). Never had an issue with any of them. The belt drive has been satisfactory, but I always have had that "what if it breaks?" feeling.
PS. I have replaced two Spyder belts due to getting into rocks--which was my fault both times.
$500 or so each, including belt, labor, tow.
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Originally Posted by widowmaker2011
FWIW, ‘Most touring’ is a little bit of a stretch , Harley still commands the largest touring segment and is 100% belt. BMW is ‘still’ plagued with weird shaft drive issues on a system they deployed fully 24 years ago. Shaft is definitely something with plusses but belt drive will take us years into the future with proven reliability also.
Please read and understand before commenting. I said 'most touring models'.
Belts have been plagued with problems as well. Just asks the folks here.
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For what it's worth, the first BMW motorcycle, designed in 1923, had shaft drive. So it's been around a lot longer than you might think. Both shaft and belt have pluses and minuses.
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Not sure I would use the word 'most' either, but that's just my opinion, not worth much.
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Gold wing does not equal 'most touring models' Lots of touring models use belt drives, just like CanAm. Very reliable and zero maintenance.
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Originally Posted by deer30084
Shaft drive never "made it" on motorcycles. So why Can Am?
Are you kidding. Lots of motorcycles with Shaft Drive. BMW, Moto Guzzi,Triumph, Honda, Suzuki just to name a few.
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Originally Posted by widowmaker2011
FWIW, ‘Most touring’ is a little bit of a stretch , Harley still commands the largest touring segment and is 100% belt. BMW is ‘still’ plagued with weird shaft drive issues on a system they deployed fully 24 years ago. Shaft is definitely something with plusses but belt drive will take us years into the future with proven reliability also.
Uh...........BMW shaft drive since 1903. There shaft drive issues were only a handful of years. Not a problem for quiet a while.
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I had a 1988 Honda Shadow 1100 that was shaft drive. Ran like champ. Zero issues !!!!
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Originally Posted by JP58
I've owned 10 bikes so far 4 belt, 4 shaft, 2 chain. My shaft drive were the best. Easy to do tire changes. No adjustments. And no rocks chewing up belts.
THREE Great Reasons!!! The Ryker was built for shaft drive- BRP will Never Change the drive on current models and if they Don't start selling better The Ryker Line May be the Only line in the future?
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Originally Posted by deer30084
Shaft drive never "made it" on motorcycles. So why Can Am?
Well shaft drives have been around a long time and have worked well. I have had a lot of them but they too are not without their troubles. Very expensive to repair. I am quite happy with the belt drives though. Several hundred thousand miles on Harleys with belt drives and two Spyders with belt drives have served me well. All my BMW's have had shaft drives and good care with regular service and oil changes in the shaft drives have been trouble free for myself. Shaft repair can be North of $1500 +. A new belt can be had for several hundred dollars.
Bottom line: I would not throw one away for the other.
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