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Introvert or Extrovert - which are you?
Might explain a lot of the miscommunication going on these days ...?
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...?utm_source=eb
Personally, I'm very much an introvert. Overbearing extroverts and bullies I tolerate only just so much before blowing up.
Last edited by UtahPete; 10-14-2018 at 10:57 AM.
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Also introvert but I don't think introvert/extrovert has anything to do with being overbearing or a bully.
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I must be an introvert also....
But, if Jonathan is an introvert he's sure full of himself.
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Good read, Pete.
Also enjoyed the article it highlighted at the bottom - pc culture - food for thought.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
Okay, so here's my theory as it relates to behavior on the off-topic forum.
I think a lot of participants who get caught up in heated arguments are introverts who would not engage in the same way if it were to take place in a social setting. They either would not be in that social setting in the first place, or would keep their thoughts to themselves rather than engage in verbal combat with the extroverts. But the distance, both virtual and actual, created by the online forum, provides the opportunity for introverts to engage, disengage and reflect as they wish. There is no immediacy or social pressure as there would be at a real gathering.
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Originally Posted by Fatcycledaddy
I don't think an introvert would have started this thread, much less have 4,251 post in 34 months, or almost 95 post per month.
Then I think you misunderstand about introverts. Please read the article again, as well as my post this morning.
Introverts aren't necessarily unsocial or uncommunicative.
Last edited by UtahPete; 10-15-2018 at 12:51 PM.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
Then I think you misunderstand about introverts. Please read the article again, as well as my post this morning.
Introverts aren't necessarily unsocial or uncommunicative.
I read the article, I agree with your statement, but most do not go out of their way to be social and communicative.
You thrive on posting, getting people to, as you call it, have stimulating conversations, I call it arguing.
You let everyone know your opinion on every topic that comes up, whether they want it or not.
I am not saying all of that it bad, but I don't see that as the dominate characteristics of an introvert.
As stated below.
Introverts and conflict
by Michaela | 9 comments
It’s no secret that introverts dislike conflict. We would rather stay silent than rock the boat. We tend to favor avoidance over confrontation. If the choice is between fight or flight, we usually choose the latter. Some of us will even go hungry trying to dodge a potential clash (I’ve dropped entire dress sizes while avoiding angry roommates).
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There's this thing out there (and it's NOT on the internet); called "Tact".
Used it properly: you can tell somebody to go to Hell, and actually have them looking forward to the trip!
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
There's this thing out there (and it's NOT on the internet); called "Tact".
Used it properly: you can tell somebody to go to Hell, and actually have them looking forward to the trip!
I am still working on that, being tactful I mean!!
Last edited by Fatcycledaddy; 10-15-2018 at 03:04 PM.
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Originally Posted by Fatcycledaddy
You thrive on posting, getting people to, as you call it, have stimulating conversations, I call it arguing. You let everyone know your opinion on every topic that comes up, whether they want it or not. I am not saying all of that it bad, but I don't see that as the dominate characteristics of an introvert.
And you are being judgmental, I think. You don't know me at all but you're ready to draw conclusions about me based on my activity on this forum. Introvert is only part of who I am. Another part is someone who learned long ago that I need to speak up and be counted if I want to get anywhere in life.
So, although my preference is to avoid open conflict in social situations, and I avoid social situations where conflict is likely or inevitable (thankfully I don't have to go to work in an office anymore), that doesn't mean I am unwilling to exchange ideas in a meaningful debate.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
And you are being judgmental, I think. You don't know me at all but you're ready to draw conclusions about me based on my activity on this forum. Introvert is only part of who I am. Another part is someone who learned long ago that I need to speak up and be counted if I want to get anywhere in life.
So, although my preference is to avoid open conflict in social situations, and I avoid social situations where conflict is likely or inevitable (thankfully I don't have to go to work in an office anymore), that doesn't mean I am unwilling to exchange ideas in a meaningful debate.
Okay, Mr. overbearing introvert.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
And you are being judgmental, I think. You don't know me at all but you're ready to draw conclusions about me based on my activity on this forum. Introvert is only part of who I am. Another part is someone who learned long ago that I need to speak up and be counted if I want to get anywhere in life.
So, although my preference is to avoid open conflict in social situations, and I avoid social situations where conflict is likely or inevitable (thankfully I don't have to go to work in an office anymore), that doesn't mean I am unwilling to exchange ideas in a meaningful debate.
No, nothing judgmental about it. Just going by the observations I have made in the few years I have been on here.
If I were to accuse someone of stealing when they walked out of a store and assumed they had stolen it, then called them a thief, that would be judgmental. If I watched them take it off of the shelf, put it in their pocket and walk out of the store without paying, it would not be judgmental to say he was a thief, but a statement of fact based on my observations.
I have observed you inserting yourself into post when prayers for someone is mentioned, telling them how it does nothing.
I have observed you confronting anyone who has any threads about guns or the second amendment.
If someone expresses any ideas that are political or socially conservative, you have to tell how they are wrong.
As far as "speaking up to get anywhere in life", how does that pertain to belittling someones religious beliefs? What did it do to get you any farther in life when you confront someone on constitutional, or political beliefs?
I am not saying that you shouldn't, or condemning you for the stances that you take. I am not saying you should not express you opinion, but don't do it with the excuse that you are advancing yourself in life somehow.
I am saying however that in all my years of sales, teaching building classes, and being very active in teaching at church, I have met tens of thousands of people. In this time I have met many introverts. Every introvert I have ever met was not argumentative, or confrontational until they were personally attacked, and most times not even then. They didn't go out of there way to be controversial or argumentative as I have observed you to be.
Me, I know I am not an introvert, and I love expressing my opinion of things, as you can probably tell. Doesn't mean I am right or wrong, but it is a good debate. I try to do my best not to make it personal and attack an individual unless they are blatantly rude. Yes I have done that here on occasion unfortunately.
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UP,
Do you think you've ever swayed someone from their original stance on a topic?
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Originally Posted by Fatcycledaddy
I read the article, I agree with your statement, but most do not go out of their way to be social and communicative.
You thrive on posting, getting people to, as you call it, have stimulating conversations, I call it arguing.
You let everyone know your opinion on every topic that comes up, whether they want it or not.
I am not saying all of that it bad, but I don't see that as the dominate characteristics of an introvert.
I think you just validated my earlier post;
Okay, so here's my theory as it relates to behavior on the off-topic forum.
I think a lot of participants who get caught up in heated arguments are introverts who would not engage in the same way if it were to take place in a social setting. They either would not be in that social setting in the first place, or would keep their thoughts to themselves rather than engage in verbal combat with the extroverts. But the distance, both virtual and actual, created by the online forum, provides the opportunity for introverts to engage, disengage and reflect as they wish. There is no immediacy or social pressure as there would be at a real gathering.
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