THIS MAKES ME MAD!!

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

for those who don't read or speak mandarin the video tells of women coming to the u.s. 6 months or more pregnant
from china, having the kid so they can gain citizenship then applying for benefits, leaving the kid in the u.s. and going back to china and still receive benefits for LIFE.

when they come to the u.s. they stay in 1 of 400 homes owned by chinese businesses who help them with this crime. this video tells of california but i'm sure there are a few other states that this happens in, most assuredly ny. i can
only hope trump does something about it.

this post is not meant to be political but hopefully informative, i'm sure very few on here would ever know of scams
like this.

[bikerbillone]

[BajaRon]

It's not just the Chinese. Virtually every country in the world participates in this. It is well known and supported by many in congress. Just not well known or supported by those paying for it.

[Bob Denman]

Exactly how does this benefit the taxpayers?

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

Exactly how does this benefit the taxpayers?

I suppose the same way the federation benefits under the borg.

[Lew L]

"Resistance is Futile"

Until the 14th amendment to the Constitution is changed this will go on, to the delight of many.

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

i for one can not understand in any way how this is good for the country. why would any politician knowingly allow it?

oh did anyone watch the full video?

[Rob Rodriguez]

I think its safe to say that MOST politicians don't have any interest in what's "good for the country". MOST have a large interest in what's good for themselves.

[BajaRon]

Exactly how does this benefit the taxpayers?

Surely you jest...

[BajaRon]

I think its safe to say that MOST politicians don't have any interest in what's "good for the country". MOST have a large interest in what's good for themselves.

At the risk of being 'Political'. I find it difficult to understand why those who vote their pocket-book are surprised when the one they elect also puts their pocket-book before the needs of the country.

[Bob Denman]

Surely you jest...

I FINALLY got to "throw this card"!

[ARtraveler]

I get the "black screen" from both of you. I do however know of what the OP has posted. This has been going on for many years.

60 Minutes or Dateline (maybe both) ran programs about this. It is well known to many. California was mentioned in the report above. Pregnant ladies from other countries sign up for "birthing excursions" to the US. The Constitution states that any born here are automatically citizens. The legal fallout then begins. The thing about the benefits is right on.

Surprised that the "loophole" has never been closed. Our loss, their gain--I guess. Both sides know about this and to my knowledge--no one has done anything to put a stop to it.

[BajaRon]

Though I have my opinion. I'm not here to judge these numbers. I simply think it important that people see the information.

This chart has been compiled using the US Census Bureau's numbers (Past and Present) to generate future population predictions if things remain unchanged.

It is also noteworthy that the Census Bureau no longer asks about citizenship status.

[Pallidus Aranea]

The coming to the US on a "deliver your baby mission" is in fact a problem. But the problem extends far from that. We are a country of limited resources (whether you believe it or not). Limited in available funding, manpower and ability. Those allowing the unchecked "baby dumping for citizenship" AND the unchecked immigration by adults - need to be removed from office. We have a very defined set of guidelines that are supposed to dictate the process for immigration to the US. Baby dumping is a small loophole compared to the lack of enforcement of immigration policies and 'social assistance' programs.

I am speaking from personal knowledge - I have friend that has immigrated here legally. He applied for an H-1B visa under the highly skilled worker program. The program set stipulations that he had to stay employed, could not apply for or use social assistance programs and many other guidelines. By the time that he and his family finally become American citizens, he will have invested 7 years working for various companies and about $5000 or more in legal fees. In his opinion a small price to pay. He and his family are legally immigrating from England.

Another case is just the opposite. I have another friend that like to talk cricket with. He came to the US on a flight as a tourist. He lied at the customs checkpoint about having / visiting family here. After ten years, he is not and refuses to become a citizen. He is constantly bringing his family here from India - all just visiting. To date he says that he has brought "at least 75 family members here." None are citizens. The elder folks that he has are somehow drawing Social Security benefits - without ever paying a dime into the system.

I like and am friends with both - the former I have respect for. They have done it right. The later - I love talking cricket with him but despise how he and his family knowing abused the system.

The worse part - our government always turns the other cheek for various political and economic reasons. Just follow the rules in place - immigrate legally. Deport those that haven't - regardless of how long they have been here or the economic impact they might have.

[Orange Spyder Man]

Its no wonder why Social Security is in dire trouble.. its high time this practice ends...

[UtahPete]

I don't understand why this is worth getting upset about.

[canamjhb]

I don't understand why this is worth getting upset about.

If you don't understand, then it would be a good idea for you to personally support some of these illegals in your own home....

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

I don't understand why this is worth getting upset about.

perhaps those of us that pay taxes have a right for the government not to squander our money.

question for utahpete, are you a socialist or a democratic socialist, there is no need to answer if you are afraid
but you can still reply.

[UtahPete]

perhaps those of us that pay taxes have a right for the government not to squander our money. question for utahpete, are you a socialist or a democratic socialist, there is no need to answer if you are afraid but you can still reply.

Not afraid to reply. I'm a progressive.

Still don't understand what the fuss is about.

[Bob Denman]

Can you define that term?

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

Can you define that term?

i can........... liberal leaning towards socialist. i'm not defining pete just what i believe a progressive is.

i have no problem with socialists as long as they stay true to their values and can start by taking in the poor or illegals,
giving away 90% of their money to accomplish what they preach and of course removing the fence around their house
while leaving it unlocked when they leave.
when not done i consider these people to be hypocrites. not sure if that is a political party or just scum of the earth.

[Bob Denman]

I am specifically wondering how he feels about the redistribution of wealth...

[HayRog]

It's not just the Chinese. Virtually every country in the world participates in this. It is well known and supported by many in congress. Just not well known or supported by those paying for it.

[Pallidus Aranea]

This country that I love and have defended my entire life (from military dependent, to military retiree, to retired DoD contractor) has really gone to hell in a hand-basket when it comes to redistributing everything. I always was of the belief that everyone pays their taxes, from personal to corporate. That funds the country in order to "in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity." When you actually look at the legal breakdown of the terms, as defined by the original authors and later the Supreme Court - no where does it state that we the citizens have to pay for others to live or immigration in any form. Nor does is say that any persons or corporate wealth should be purposefully redirected or redistributed. BUT - that is what has happened and will continue to happen. As long as the citizens voices are either non-existent or muted by other, or they are just too stupid to see what is really happening - this will continue.

Think about this - as a business owner in California it is proposed that any company that has a corporate board will be mandated to have a woman as a member, no questions, no exceptions. What happen to "I own the company and want to work with the most qualified people." Let's cal this executive job redistribution.

This is far from the country that my grandfather fought for and all of my forefathers (generations 11 and 12) made the trek from England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland and Germany to build. That was based on the opportunity to work and benefit from your toils. I know know that I and other tax paying citizens have been sponsoring the decline of this nation. Our wealth, no matter how large or small, has gone to pay for programs to systematically keep people from working, allow illegal immigration (fact the majority of illegals don't work - look at Minneapolis) and basically make America one of the top "lazy ass" countries in the world.

If you think it is ok for this to happen - I have a family in my town that is looking to move into your home. They need you sponsorship for rent, food, education (once you teach them English) and eventually higher education. They will actually tell you that that's why they are here .... ready to have them move in? They want your wealth. Hell sell your Spyder and give them the cash.

I hope this country can right itself - all of the great kingdoms have fallen from where they once were - and most here are blind to our fall and the things that aided in the decline.

Sorry for the rant - being a passionate American I cannot help myself. - I am off the soapbox

[Firefly]

Guess the whole 'no politics' rule is no longer in effect?

Most of this 'off topic' area is quite the cesspool.... people posting fact-less garbage and then blasting their politics, hate and fear.
Some of it is as bad as the Facebook wars about politics.....

#sad