Okay, Who'd pay to get rid of the 'Read Card' Message?

[QuadManiac]

Well, being the anal retentive electrical engineer that I am, I'm offended by BRP's insistence that we wait a few seconds and then promise that, like good little children, we've read the dang safety card, OVER AND OVER.

On those nights when I'm having a hard time getting to bed, like tonight, I start to think about ways to better the world. Tonight, I had an epiphany. It is inherently simple to design a small circuit on a tiny board that will short across one or the other of the mode switches, say N seconds after you turn the key switch on... thereby eliminating the BRP safety card nag. The device could be designed so that it would only 'push' the switch if the key's been off for 5 minutes, so no unnecessary pushes if the system isn't gonna show the nag anyway.

SO, since my time is valuable, I have to figure out what it's worth to you all? If I could provide a turnkey board, with connectors, that simply plugs in between two existing connectors, what would the Spyder community be willing to pay for this luxury? $25? $50? $100? I don't know, but it's sure something I'm gonna think about in my little spare time over the weekend... maybe get NMN in on it, for his marketing talent?

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent, but I am serious about designing and building this, at least for myself... I'll be looking at the schematics tomorrow and maybe we'll have a solution shortly!

[effgjamis]

You mean you don't read the safetu card each time you start the spyder??? and you don't have senior moments??? and you are irratated that you have to push one of the two mode switches?

Just a thought... you might want to consider that the mode circuit also give you the abilitiy to clear, set and adjust many cluster functions. So the PCB you suggest just might disable those functions as well.

[shunkmanitu]

Well, being the anal retentive electrical engineer that I am, I'm offended by BRP's insistence that we wait a few seconds and then promise that, like good little children, we've read the dang safety card, OVER AND OVER.

You must know that there some of us that have never even pulled the card out EXCEPT to make fun of it to a Lawyer friend! I have never read it!

Nearly every time I ride I have to open the trunk so I just turn the key on at that time and touch the "button" as I climb on board! I will just use your profit margin to put in a tank or two of fuel. You have to remember, if you take over four seconds to hit 60mph you are wasting time anyway!

[Lamonster]

I would pay you to put the nanny on a switch.

[docdoru]

I would pay you to put the nanny on a switch.

but with the "all-time off" position

[dltang]

I don't ever read the safety card or even the scrolling message on the screen. When I turn the key and it starts to scroll that is when I hit the Mode button on the left handlebar and I'm good to start up. No real problem. I guess I would not pay money just for a 2-3 second wait to start my spyder. The other nice thing about this and it was mentioned a long time back. It is kind of an antitheft device. Non spyder folks will have a heck of a time trying to figure out how to get the spyder started.

[Lamonster]

I don't ever read the safety card or even the scrolling message on the screen. When I turn the key and it starts to scroll that is when I hit the Mode button on the left handlebar and I'm good to start up. No real problem. I guess I would not pay money just for a 2-3 second wait to start my spyder. The other nice thing about this and it was mentioned a long time back. It is kind of an antitheft device. Non spyder folks will have a heck of a time trying to figure out how to get the spyder started.

You mean I've been reading that card all this time for nothing?

[Roaddog2]

+1

+2

[tatt2r]

I don't ever read the safety card or even the scrolling message on the screen. When I turn the key and it starts to scroll that is when I hit the Mode button on the left handlebar and I'm good to start up. No real problem. I guess I would not pay money just for a 2-3 second wait to start my spyder. The other nice thing about this and it was mentioned a long time back. It is kind of an antitheft device. Non spyder folks will have a heck of a time trying to figure out how to get the spyder started.

[captainryder]

Uh... What card? When I installed my GPS over the dash, I removed that piece. ( As the bolts go down through the dash)

But add me to the list for a nanny. Supposedly, if you stop and start within a few seconds... minutes... the notice doesn't appear. I've tried to fill my gas tank quickly, spilling it all over the, as it overflows, and still haven't " beat the clock"

So instead of keeping miles ridden, I'm keeping track of how many times I'm supposed to read this message !

[NancysToy]

I don't ever read the safety card or even the scrolling message on the screen. When I turn the key and it starts to scroll that is when I hit the Mode button on the left handlebar and I'm good to start up. No real problem. I guess I would not pay money just for a 2-3 second wait to start my spyder. The other nice thing about this and it was mentioned a long time back. It is kind of an antitheft device. Non spyder folks will have a heck of a time trying to figure out how to get the spyder started.

+1 Doesn't bother me in the least...and I worked my last 30 years as an engineer.
-Scotty

[czdaryle]

I don't ever read the safety card or even the scrolling message on the screen. When I turn the key and it starts to scroll that is when I hit the Mode button on the left handlebar and I'm good to start up. No real problem. I guess I would not pay money just for a 2-3 second wait to start my spyder. The other nice thing about this and it was mentioned a long time back. It is kind of an antitheft device. Non spyder folks will have a heck of a time trying to figure out how to get the spyder started.

I agree...try to have someone start up your spyder..it will take them a while..every little bit helps when they cant start it right away. Oh and my card is long gome

[draboo]

I agree...try to have someone start up your spyder..it will take them a while..every little bit helps when they cant start it right away. Oh and my card is long gome

It starts without the card in place??

[Firefly]

Well, being the anal retentive electrical engineer that I am, I'm offended by BRP's insistence that we wait a few seconds and then promise that, like good little children, we've read the dang safety card, OVER AND OVER.

On those nights when I'm having a hard time getting to bed, like tonight, I start to think about ways to better the world. Tonight, I had an epiphany. It is inherently simple to design a small circuit on a tiny board that will short across one or the other of the mode switches, say N seconds after you turn the key switch on... thereby eliminating the BRP safety card nag. The device could be designed so that it would only 'push' the switch if the key's been off for 5 minutes, so no unnecessary pushes if the system isn't gonna show the nag anyway.

SO, since my time is valuable, I have to figure out what it's worth to you all? If I could provide a turnkey board, with connectors, that simply plugs in between two existing connectors, what would the Spyder community be willing to pay for this luxury? $25? $50? $100? I don't know, but it's sure something I'm gonna think about in my little spare time over the weekend... maybe get NMN in on it, for his marketing talent?

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent, but I am serious about designing and building this, at least for myself... I'll be looking at the schematics tomorrow and maybe we'll have a solution shortly!

One word : Xanax

Put me on the list for the anti-nanny switch !

[MSGTDOC]

You mean I've been reading that card all this time for nothing?

[LittleJohn]

I dont find the need to push the mode button a nuisance at all. I would however like to be able to change the message that scrolls telling you to read the card and acknowledgs by pushing the mode button. If you could keep it from saying that, it would act even more as an anti theft device, cuz the thief would have no idea how to start it then.
I can think of some good messages to scroll there...LOL

[AMTJIM]

One of the better switches on my wifes Honda van...VSS on/off.

[FANG]

I agree...try to have someone start up your spyder..it will take them a while..every little bit helps when they cant start it right away. Oh and my card is long gome

I don't ever read the safety card or even the scrolling message on the screen. When I turn the key and it starts to scroll that is when I hit the Mode button on the left handlebar and I'm good to start up. No real problem. I guess I would not pay money just for a 2-3 second wait to start my spyder. The other nice thing about this and it was mentioned a long time back. It is kind of an antitheft device. Non spyder folks will have a heck of a time trying to figure out how to get the spyder started.

my brother wanted to try out my . I handed him the key and told him to go ahead. It was fun watching him spend 5-10 minutes trying to start the . He kept asking where the safrty card was and then when he found it he actually read it and pushed it back in. When it didn't start he pulled it back out and pushed it back in several times before I could hold a straight face anymore...

[NancysToy]

They could change the message to read, "Good Morning, Mr. Phelps."
-Scotty

[Dudley]

My best guess about the scrolling, card, etc., is BRP is covering liability issues. If something happens to you and it could have been prevented by following the instructions on the card they are covered. I use the card many times to cover the instrument cluster from the desert sun here in the Southwest. I have already lost one cluster from reflective sun rays off the after-market windshield. Now I also use a pillow case type covering over the whole windshiled. No more reflections.
I agree with the push-to-clear button being another factor to deter anyone starting the Spyder. It can't be started without the programmed key, but what if you lost the key and someone found it in the parking lot? Anything to deter gets my vote. I have found the Spyder to be a very advanced-in-safety machine and have not modified a thing on it, nor do I want to. I know, to each his/her own, but that's my "his own".

[QuadManiac]

Well, I didn't say my late night epiphanies make any sense... except to me... late at night.

I wish the 'nanny-off switch' would be as easy as the 'nag-off switch', but not so. Sounds like the anti-theft and 'fun factor' is worth more than getting rid of the nag anyway.

Back to the drawing board! Maybe some sleep would help.

[QuadManiac]

They could change the message to read, "Good Morning, Mr. Phelps."
-Scotty

And ends "This Spyder will self destruct in five seconds"?

[NancysToy]

And ends "This Spyder will self destruct in five seconds"?

That ought to deter theft, alright!
-Scotty

[Firefly]

Theft deterrant? So I guess reading English is a unique ability bestowed upon Spyder owners only?

[GaryTheBadger]

I would pay someone to have the message and long delay removed from my Odyssey Navigation screen at startup. It prevents use of the backup camera, meaning it allows you to backup without the camera, a safety flaw in my opinon.