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syn vs regular motor oil
I'm trying to decide on syn or blend motor oil. i know the manual says use a blend but for my next oil change aim wondering if the full syn would be better .does anyone have info if there is any clutch slippage exc ? which may have me think the blend would be a better choice . it is a 2014 rt limited 1330 Thanks Vic
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Blend is ok......
Just make sure you use wet clutch specific application. Also keep in mind your oil lubricates your transmission so you also have the shear factor to consider. Check out the available brands of oils made specifically for motorcycle use and you'll good. You are likely going to receive no less that 200+ responses to your question because it is the MOST debated topic on this site.
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best oil ?????
Originally Posted by Vic
I'm trying to decide on syn or blend motor oil. i know the manual says use a blend but for my next oil change aim wondering if the full syn would be better .does anyone have info if there is any clutch slippage exc ? which may have me think the blend would be a better choice . it is a 2014 rt limited 1330 Thanks Vic
Even considering cost Syn. is the best way to go ..... Right now there is a HUGH rebate on Rotella T-6 which is the right type oil for the 1330...... Walmart even has it on sale , so the rebate is even better ............... Mike
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I have a 2015 RTL and up until 23K miles I used the BRP 1330 blend. At 23K I decided to go to full synthetic and went with BRP full synthetic, mainly based on Sierra Cycles recommendation. I didn't know what to expect, but in other bikes when I went to full synthetic it tended to result in an engine running noticeably cooler, better shifting, and generally a more mechanically quiet engine. With BRP full synthetic the only very slight difference I see is the engine running just a tad cooler. I mostly tell this by how infrequent the electric fan comes on. In AZ the electric fan is not uncommon, particularly on 105+ degree days for in-town riding. I expected more, but this may mean nothing. It might be as simple as the BRP blend is very good.
Rob
Originally Posted by Vic
syn or blend motor oil.
2015 RT-Ltd SE6 and F3S SE6, both with a number of commercial add-ons plus my own tweaks.
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oil
Synthetic oil is good. You can also use Microlon Engine Treatment, which I used in my Airplane Engine.
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You have misread the manual and specifications!
" Use the XPS 4-STROKE SYNTH.BLEND OIL (SUMMER) (P/N 293 600
121) or a 5W40 semi-synthetic (minimum)
or synthetic motorcycle oil
meeting the requirements for API service
SL, SJ, SH, SG or higher classification.
Always check the API service
label on the oil container."
AJ
Originally Posted by Vic
I'm trying to decide on syn or blend motor oil. i know the manual says use a blend but for my next oil change aim wondering if the full syn would be better .does anyone have info if there is any clutch slippage exc ? which may have me think the blend would be a better choice . it is a 2014 rt limited 1330 Thanks Vic
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Oil
Use an oil synthetic or not with the proper ratings for your engine and change it when needed and you won't ever have an oil related failure......
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Synthetic or blend: why not just use the BRP oil that your Dealer sells? After all; the engineers are hanging their reputations on it...
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Originally Posted by moogully
Synthetic oil is good. You can also use Microlon Engine Treatment, which I used in my Airplane Engine.
Being a wet clutch with a shared oil supply, I'd recommend against using any additive to the oil. What's good for engines is sometimes not so good for wet clutches.
2020 RTL SE6
Previously 2008 GS SM5 and 2014 RT SE6
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Choices, choices
Not that different when comparing a synthetic blend and a full synthetic . Not so with a full synthetic and a non synthetic one. Guess it is more going with a good brand name oil. I use XPS blend and am happy with it.
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Mt. Helix, California
2012 RS sm5
2012 RS sm5 , 998cc V-Twin 106hp DIY brake and park brake Classic Black
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Originally Posted by moogully
You can also use Microlon Engine Treatment, which I used in my Airplane Engine.
BAD idea.
A quick Google search looks like this probably is Moly (molybdenum disulfide) which is specifically BAD for wet clutches.
As is PTFE (teflon) and other "super slick" snake oil additives.
NO additives in your oil. NONE.
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Synthetic or blend: why not just use the BRP oil that your Dealer sells? After all; the engineers are hanging their reputations on it...
Are these the same people that recommend Kendra tires?
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The difference between the BRP Synthetic and Blended is small. According to XPS lubricants the blended is 95% synthetic. So really if you want to use the BRP stuff. I would not worry about it. Now in the aftermarket I would go with a full synthetic because they are not going to tell you how little synthetic is in the blend.
Last edited by billybovine; 08-21-2018 at 12:55 PM.
2018 F3 LIMITED
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Originally Posted by billybovine
According to XPS lubricants the blended is 95% synthetic.
So, I'd be REALLY interested in hearing what XPS Lubricants has to say about what perceived advantage there IS with blending in that 5%.
I find that a little hard to swallow; why bother ??
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easy,
Don't you remember your Grandmother telling you that "Everybody has to eat of pound of dirt; before they die."?
There you go...
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
BAD idea.
A quick Google search looks like this probably is Moly (molybdenum disulfide) which is specifically BAD for wet clutches.
As is PTFE (teflon) and other "super slick" snake oil additives.
NO additives in your oil. NONE.
+1!!!
Specifically, from my operator's guide immediately below the recommended API oil service codes,
"NOTICE Do not add any oil additives
to the recommended oil. This may lead to
gearbox and clutch malfunctions."
Artillery lends dignity to what would
otherwise be a vulgar brawl.
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
So, I'd be REALLY interested in hearing what XPS Lubricants has to say about what perceived advantage there IS with blending in that 5%.
I find that a little hard to swallow; why bother ??
Don't know. Why not ask them?
2018 F3 LIMITED
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Originally Posted by billybovine
Don't know. Why not ask them?
Anyone who really cares should ask.
I don't.
I was kind of hinting at: Maybe the person who got the initial answer should follow up......for the benefit of all.
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If your going to use Synthetic- Make sure its Motorcycle Oil JASO 2 Rated!!!! Two is BETTER THAN JASO Rated?
2015 F3 sm6, Custom Dynamics fender lights.
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Semi-synthetic Blend
I have purchased 3 new bikes, a Kawasaki, a Victory and now a Can Am. ALL of them recommended using a semi-synthetic oil. Victory stated that semi synthetic results in engine running 5-10F cooler. I have been in Powersports for 50+ years and I have never seen a lubrication-related failure other than loss of lubrication (low/no oil or pump failure). There is nothing wrong with using synthetic oil, it just costs more with no apparent advantage. If synthetic was better wouldn’t the manufacturers recommended it? Just my 2 cents.
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Have to love oil threads, such passion.
2012 RT A&C SE5
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Originally Posted by vindex1963
Have to love oil threads, such passion.
If you love oil threads: you'll REALLY love tire brand and air pressure arguments.
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