Rider harassment?

[Rogue Hawk]

I do understand we only get his side of the story. But still, it's seems disturbing me that the police essentially send in a SWAT team to stop one guy for lane cutting.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I do understand we only get his side of the story. But still, it's seems disturbing me that the police essentially send in a SWAT team to stop one guy for lane cutting.

You are correct it's only one side of the story ....Well I was an LEO for 37 years .... made thousands of traffic stops and had this occur 100 plus times ..... It would take me at least an hour of typing to cover all the Bikers BS about this, Here's just one point " How many times did the Biker ask the officer how and why the Stop was made " ...I counted seven..... The biker is swimming in ATTITUDE and Passively resisting all efforts by the officer to do the Task at hand....Zero co-operation ..... If you were the officer how would you like to be treated ????? ....... just a different prospective ...... Mike ...........PS, I'm the kind of Cop who thinks BAD Cops should get twice the punishment for wrong doing ..... Because they took an Oath not to be Nasty or worse CROOKED

[Rogue Hawk]

You are correct it's only one side of the story ....Well I was an LEO for 37 years .... made thousands of traffic stops and had this occur 100 plus times ..... It would take me at least an hour of typing to cover all the Bikers BS about this, Here's just one point " How many times did the Biker ask the officer how and why the Stop was made " ...I counted seven..... The biker is swimming in ATTITUDE and Passively resisting all efforts by the officer to do the Task at hand....Zero co-operation ..... If you were the officer how would you like to be treated ????? ....... just a different prospective ...... Mike ...........PS, I'm the kind of Cop who thinks BAD Cops should twice the punishment for wrong doing ..... Because they took an Oath not to be Nasty or worse CROOKED

This is why I posted this, to read other's assessment of what could have happened. To the untrained eye (mine) the impression can be made the cops where too aggressive.

[kep-up]

I think they stopped him for sh==s and giggles.

[ByeSpyder]

I am on the cops side. He made unsafe lane changes. He was obviously speeding. Can't tell if he didn't use his blinker but assume that because his lane changes were much to abrupt. He is a buttwipe and deserves to be ticketed for every violation. He not only puts himself at risk but every other biker - most of whom do not ride this way. I don't want to be run over by some road rager because this idiot drives like a moron and pisses everybody else off.

[Easy Rider]

He is a buttwipe and deserves to be ticketed for every violation.

Unless maybe it is a local policy, a LEO is not legally required to listen or pay attention to ANYTHING a person has to say before, during or after an arrest.....except maybe a request for medical treatment.

In my opinion, anybody who is uncooperative should be handcuffed, put in the squad and transported to jail or a ticket written....without the LEO engaging in any conversation more than legally required.

In most cases, you get what you deserve.

[jerrydonna]

the first lane change and speed told the story
and that finial lane split to TELL driver about his light... RIGHT you would have taken off first from the light and that was your plan

You are correct it's only one side of the story ....Well I was an LEO for 37 years .... made thousands of traffic stops and had this occur 100 plus times ..... It would take me at least an hour of typing to cover all the Bikers BS about this, Here's just one point " How many times did the Biker ask the officer how and why the Stop was made " ...I counted seven..... The biker is swimming in ATTITUDE and Passively resisting all efforts by the officer to do the Task at hand....Zero co-operation ..... If you were the officer how would you like to be treated ????? ....... just a different prospective ...... Mike ...........PS, I'm the kind of Cop who thinks BAD Cops should get twice the punishment for wrong doing ..... Because they took an Oath not to be Nasty or worse CROOKED

" aggressive " ..... where in the video ( give the time/s please ) were any of the Cops acted " aggressive " .... I'm NOT...trying to start a pissing contest but I'm a FACT freak ......Mike

I am on the cops side. He made unsafe lane changes. He was obviously speeding. Can't tell if he didn't use his blinker but assume that because his lane changes were much to abrupt. He is a buttwipe and deserves to be ticketed for every violation. He not only puts himself at risk but every other biker - most of whom do not ride this way. I don't want to be run over by some road rager because this idiot drives like a moron and pisses everybody else off.

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

What i see is they stopped him yet didn't give him a ticket so it does make me wonder, WHY?

[Bob Denman]

Ride like an idiot, and you put yourself in the cross-hairs...
Question: is lane-splitting legal in the State where this happened?

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

This is why I posted this, to read other's assessment of what could have happened. To the untrained eye (mine) the impression can be made the cops where too aggressive.

" aggressive " ..... where in the video ( give the time/s please ) were any of the Cops acted " aggressive " .... I'm NOT...trying to start a pissing contest but I'm a FACT freak ......Mike

[johnsimion]

" aggressive " ..... where in the video ( give the time/s please ) were any of the Cops acted " aggressive " .... I'm NOT...trying to start a pissing contest but I'm a FACT freak ......Mike

More "odd" than "aggressive" IMO. The only "aggressive" I see is when the cop car suddenly pulled across several lanes of traffic and squealed the brakes. That seemed both unnecessary, dangerous to other traffic, and certainly a huge inconvenience to everybody else. Also, for the cop car to have caught up with him while (allegedly) following him like this, it seems pretty obvious that the cops had to have been doing the exact same things the motorcyclist was doing (unsafe lane changes) and yet they didn't even have the lights and flashers going. Why not just turn on the flashers and sirens way back so others would move out of the way and they could make a safe stop? Or call in another car to make the stop? Then there was the fact they didn't give him a ticket after all that. Like others, I agree that his riding seemed to violate several laws. Virtually an emergency stop and no ticket? That makes no sense.

[ByeSpyder]

More "odd" than "aggressive" IMO. The only "aggressive" I see is when the cop car suddenly pulled across several lanes of traffic and squealed the brakes. That seemed both unnecessary, dangerous to other traffic, and certainly a huge inconvenience to everybody else. Also, for the cop car to have caught up with him while (allegedly) following him like this, it seems pretty obvious that the cops had to have been doing the exact same things the motorcyclist was doing (unsafe lane changes) and yet they didn't even have the lights and flashers going. Why not just turn on the flashers and sirens way back so others would move out of the way and they could make a safe stop? Or call in another car to make the stop? Then there was the fact they didn't give him a ticket after all that. Like others, I agree that his riding seemed to violate several laws. Virtually an emergency stop and no ticket? That makes no sense.

How many times have you seen video of a biker just running away when a cop tries pulling them over? I think this particular stop was to prevent that from happening as the biker was trapped between civilians on both sides and the cop car in front.

And we don't know if the undercover cop car had lights or siren (other than neither could be seen or heard when they pulled up). And do we know they didn't give the biker a ticket? My video hit the place where the biker took off his gloves and then began repeating so I can't say for sure.

[Rogue Hawk]

" aggressive " ..... where in the video ( give the time/s please ) were any of the Cops acted " aggressive " .... I'm NOT...trying to start a pissing contest but I'm a FACT freak ......Mike

I am a police supporter But I do question things. I don't want to just come down on one side automatically.

Well, there is nothing to disagree about it. I just say aggressive because there are so many officers for what is a routine traffic stop. It looks to me one even took the key out of the ignition. I am not even sure they are technically allowed to do that. The key is private property.

[Bob Denman]

That's to keep him from attempting to flee...
Motorcycles are so quick and maneuverable; that you have to use multiple vehicles to plug up all of the potential escape routes...
As I previously stated: sound tactics!

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I am a police supporter But I do question things. I don't want to just come down on one side automatically.

Well, there is nothing to disagree about it. I just say aggressive because there are so many officers for what is a routine traffic stop. It looks to me one even took the key out of the ignition. I am not even sure they are technically allowed to do that. The key is private property.

" The key is private property " .... I suppose they could just have detained that person until they ( the police ) wrote up all the paperwork necessary for a search and seizure WARRANT to present to a Judge ... if a Judge was available .... if none were available, they can Legally detain you ( Him ) until one was available....But in truth the Police can do what's necessary to prevent someone from Fleeing / Escaping if they are acting UN-lawfully..... ....On the so many officers thing, there is safety in numbers ... People are much less likely to fight when confronted by overwhelming odds. The other officers were probably involved in the Chase also ( they appeared almost at the same time )... For all we know the CHASE started 10 seconds after the guy started his video .... Frankly there is way more we don't about this incident than what we do know..... I don't always side with the Police just because I was one .... in fact I'm probably MORE critical than you might be. I have gone through life with this thought .... Before you criticize, walk a mile in their shoes..... It has helped me to acquire " empathy " a much needed commodity in police life .......Mike

[Cruzr Joe]

One side of the story, seems like there is more to it

Cruzr Joe

[Big F]

One side of the story, seems like there is more to it

Cruzr Joe

spoken like a true retired police officer!!!!!!!!!!!

[ByeSpyder]

I do understand we only get his side of the story. But still, it's seems disturbing me that the police essentially send in a SWAT team to stop one guy for lane cutting.

That is NOT a SWAT team and he was guilty of more than just land cutting.

[Nokesy]

I do understand we only get his side of the story. But still, it's seems disturbing me that the police essentially send in a SWAT team to stop one guy for lane cutting.

As a retired LEO, I saw several improper lane changes no signals. While he saying their standing around with their thumb up their butts. It takes time to send and get info back from dispatch. Faster now that we are linked direct. No need for the attitude from the guy, they checked him out, determined he was the owner of the bike and gave him a warning. Remember they have to have a reason to putll you over and check that you are not driving a stolen bike. I can remember in one night catching 6 of the nine people I pulled over that had stolen the bike. They could have given him a number of tickets that would cost him points and a lot of money