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How many here are constantly hitting the Nanny Speed limit on curves
It is crazy how something intended to keep you safe will throw you sideways in a curve with oncoming traffic.
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Or do I need to avoid going on spirited rides with regular trikes?
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Something else is going on. The nanny should not be throwing you sideways and if you are riding with conventional trikes, you are NOWHERE near the Spyder's cornering limits.
This sounds more like either low tire pressure or bump steer.
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
Something else is going on. The nanny should not be throwing you sideways and if you are riding with conventional trikes, you are NOWHERE near the Spyder's cornering limits.
This sounds more like either low tire pressure or bump steer.
Tire pressure was cold 20 PSI in front and 22 in rear. add more after it warms up. What do you mean by bump steer?
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If it is something wrong with my Spyder, How can I tell for sure and can you adjust or fix it at your shop? I will probably be going to Houston next week.
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
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This sounds more like either low tire pressure or bump steer.
I gotta agree with the 'if you are ryding with conventional trikes' and the 'something else is going on' bits, but I'd suggest 'substantially incorrect' tire pressure is probably a better way of putting it rather than just singling out 'low' as a likely culprit!!
Tire pressure that's substantially too low OR too high could be contributing to inducing abnormal Nanny interventions, but from my experience & the testimony of others, you can go pretty low in tire pressure with most 'non-Kenda' 50 to 70 profile tires on your Spyder and most won't usually experience any adverse input or reaction from the Nanny!! Some have even run pressures as low as 8psi on 'real' tires without any abnormal Nanny reactions, & from what I've heard about those others doing this, you really couldn't call their riding style anything less than 'spirited'!! Personally, I generally run 14-18psi all round in my 'slightly larger than OE Spec Car tires' on my Spyder without any adverse or even regular input from the Nanny, & I don't think too many would classify my riding style as anything much less than 'spirited' either - in fact, some have been known to use somewhat more colourful terms!! But the only time the Nanny intervenes is when something is really very close to 'the limit' & for me, not once has that intervention been anything less than safely manageable & clearly beneficial/helpful!! Never has it thrown the Spyder sideways EXCEPT when that was what my control input called for, and even then, every time it has been absolutely controllable & clearly life-saving!! I'd hafta say that in my experience, the Nanny really works well at doing what it was designed to do!
There again, if you are still running OE Spec Kendas, there's a good chance that that's probably contributing to your issues & all bets are off!! Sure, if you happen to be lucky enough to get a good set of Kendas, they can be sorta good.... but if, like many of us, you got even just one 'bad' Kenda, let alone three of the blighters (something which is seemingly something very easy to do!!) then they can be very VERY bad in terms of their impact on your ride & handling!!
So AY4B, after you consider all the above & how it applies to you/your Spyder & then adjusting as necessary, if your Spyder still has a Nanny that's misbehaving as badly as in the manner you describe, I'd hafta say it sounds like there is something else odd going on....
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Originally Posted by Peter Aawen
I gotta agree with the 'if you are ryding with conventional trikes' and the 'something else is going on' bits, but I'd suggest 'substantially incorrect' tire pressure is probably a better way of putting it rather than just singling out 'low' as a likely culprit!!
Tire pressure that's substantially too low OR too high could be contributing to inducing abnormal Nanny interventions, but from my experience & the testimony of others, you can go pretty low in tire pressure with most 'non-Kenda' 50 to 70 profile tires on your Spyder and most won't usually experience any adverse input or reaction from the Nanny!! Some have even run pressures as low as 8psi on 'real' tires without any abnormal Nanny reactions, & from what I've heard about those others doing this, you really couldn't call their riding style anything less than 'spirited'!! Personally, I generally run 14-18psi all round in my 'slightly larger than OE Spec Car tires' on my Spyder without any adverse or even regular input from the Nanny, & I don't think too many would classify my riding style as anything much less than 'spirited' either - in fact, some have been known to use somewhat more colourful terms!! But the only time the Nanny intervenes is when something is really very close to 'the limit' & for me, not once has that intervention been anything less than safely manageable & clearly beneficial/helpful!! Never has it thrown the Spyder sideways EXCEPT when that was what my control input called for, and even then, every time it has been absolutely controllable & clearly life-saving!! I'd hafta say that in my experience, the Nanny really works well at doing what it was designed to do!
There again, if you are still running OE Spec Kendas, there's a good chance that that's probably contributing to your issues & all bets are off!! Sure, if you happen to be lucky enough to get a good set of Kendas, they can be sorta good.... but if, like many of us, you got even just one 'bad' Kenda, let alone three of the blighters (something which is seemingly something very easy to do!!) then they can be very VERY bad in terms of their impact on your ride & handling!!
So AY4B, after you consider all the above & how it applies to you/your Spyder & then adjusting as necessary, if your Spyder still has a Nanny that's misbehaving as badly as in the manner you describe, I'd hafta say it sounds like there is something else odd going on....
You left out what Brand of tires & Level of the brand. Help a new guy
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Originally Posted by AY4B
Or do I need to avoid going on spirited rides with regular trikes?
Have it pretty regular on mine. Most of the time it kinda reminds me, but one time I was trying to get out of the way when nanny kicked in and kinda put me in a tight spot.
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Rarely. And I ride pretty hard...
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Originally Posted by BajaRon
Rarely. And I ride pretty hard...
It rides like its on rails with your sway bar and elka shocks up until the nanny kicks in and then I struggle to keep it in line or just ride threw it to accout for the bad handling.
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Thanks for all the input. I have run at 15 psi early on which is what is on the owners manual and more recently have bumped it up to 20 to see if it helps because some here have said that BRP had recommended it in a bulletin. Like Peter said it could just be crappy Kenda tires.
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Nanny always hits the brakes or slows the engine, saving my sorry butt!
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From Day one when I drove the new F3 home I turned off on a road I like to run and the first curve, it kicked in and I went WTF was that! Its like when you are in a curve and it feels like it starts side hopping and that is what kicks in the nanny. Its never gone sideways. It just feels like it moves to the side some and is unexpected. My ryding stile I lean into every curve more than most do as well.
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I sometimes strap a carrier across the passenger seat via the passenger grab handles on my F3 ... (to carry my dog and other items) this pushes down on the passenger censer on the rear seat...
This makes nanny VERY insensitive in curves ..(cutting the power and applying the breaks)...the first time it happened it was a pukka moment
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As a new Spyder owner, I rode several thousand miles trying to adjust and improve my riding skills. I found my Spyder was scary dangerous in corners at or above 65 MPH. Only after replacing the Kendas did I experience riding like I expected. I was one of the unlucky ones to have a bad set of tires. I don't know which one or if all were bad. Doesn't matter. I now can ride the Spyder close to the limits that I ride my Goldwing. And, I can regularly drag the hard parts in corners on the wing.....
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Originally Posted by AY4B
Thanks for all the input. I have run at 15 psi early on which is what is on the owners manual and more recently have bumped it up to 20 to see if it helps because some here have said that BRP had recommended it in a bulletin. Like Peter said it could just be crappy Kenda tires.
I am not sure anyone could really give you solid advise without riding your Spyder. It could be a number of things working together, a single issue, or even riding style. But if you can't keep up with a conventional trike. Something is definitely not working in your favor.
Are you breaking a tire loose before the Nanny engages? Or does she come in with no obvious reason?
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Originally Posted by BajaRon
I am not sure anyone could really give you solid advise without riding your Spyder. It could be a number of things working together, a single issue, or even riding style. But if you can't keep up with a conventional trike. Something is definitely not working in your favor.
Are you breaking a tire loose before the Nanny engages? Or does she come in with no obvious reason?
I can keep up with them but am at probably my limit. I do feel like the tires are breaking loose and that is why I am leaning to the theory that Its the tires.
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