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    That's a good video, I'm glad people are starting to figure out how to make these Spyders sound better

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    Nice but speakers are 2 or 4 ohms ?

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    sure would like to know how he wired it into the system for speakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattlebars View Post
    sure would like to know how he wired it into the system for speakers.

    When I got my amp put in my RT, I let the local custom stereo shop do it - no issues and it wasn't a terrible install price. check out your local stores

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    I have an 2018 F3L. My speakers make a popping sound during moderate to higher bass songs. Is it the woofers or tweeters. Only the front do it. I only have the bass set at 50 percent. What do I need to fix this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP58 View Post
    I have an 2018 F3L. My speakers make a popping sound during moderate to higher bass songs. Is it the woofers or tweeters. Only the front do it. I only have the bass set at 50 percent. What do I need to fix this.
    Speakers. i'm trying to get mine warranteed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kredab View Post
    When I got my amp put in my RT, I let the local custom stereo shop do it - no issues and it wasn't a terrible install price. check out your local stores
    RTs don't count. Sorry. I tried setting up an amp from the woofer leads, but the stereo unit does not put out the full spectrum, just the lows. I have not tried the "midrange" yet. We will see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattlebars View Post
    Speakers. i'm trying to get mine warranteed.
    It's done it since new. Wouldn't the replacements do the same thing or did they ruin them when installed at the factory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP58 View Post
    It's done it since new. Wouldn't the replacements do the same thing or did they ruin them when installed at the factory.
    Mine only do it at highway speeds & hi volume. They did it since new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattlebars View Post
    Mine only do it at highway speeds & hi volume. They did it since new.
    Same here so I don't think getting new ones from dealer will fix it. I would like to get some after market ones. But don't know what will work. I do not want to have to cut or add amps. Just want good speakers
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    Quick Question re: the JBL Component set that's supposed to be the best sound quality....the GTO 508c. It doesn't appear those are Marine grade speakers, which I assume the stock speakers are? With the speakers being exposed to rain and other elements, wouldn't the speakers need to be marine grade?

    If no, I'll probably buy a set and install them to the head unit to see how it sounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP58 View Post
    Same here so I don't think getting new ones from dealer will fix it. I would like to get some after market ones. But don't know what will work. I do not want to have to cut or add amps. Just want good speakers
    I have tried and tried, but cannot get anything to work. the woofers don't get the full range so coax do nothing and the base works with Polk DB501s (they bolt right in) but they fart worse than the OEM speakers (not enough power).

    Quote Originally Posted by amcvay1979 View Post
    Quick Question re: the JBL Component set that's supposed to be the best sound quality....the GTO 508c. It doesn't appear those are Marine grade speakers, which I assume the stock speakers are? With the speakers being exposed to rain and other elements, wouldn't the speakers need to be marine grade?

    If no, I'll probably buy a set and install them to the head unit to see how it sounds.
    DON"T buy the GTO's. They work great on RTs apparently, but the F3 is a different animal and they do nothing. Marine is not that important as long as you don't hit them directly through the grill with a power washer. The OEM speakers seem to be just paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattlebars View Post
    I have tried and tried, but cannot get anything to work. the woofers don't get the full range so coax do nothing and the base works with Polk DB501s (they bolt right in) but they fart worse than the OEM speakers (not enough power).



    DON"T buy the GTO's. They work great on RTs apparently, but the F3 is a different animal and they do nothing. Marine is not that important as long as you don't hit them directly through the grill with a power washer. The OEM speakers seem to be just paper.
    Good to know....I'm going to tackle the speakers soon, but if you can't just drop in new, better speakers I'm sure an amp will be in the cards as well. Are you saying that nothing you've added speaker wise sounds good in the F3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcvay1979 View Post
    Good to know....I'm going to tackle the speakers soon, but if you can't just drop in new, better speakers I'm sure an amp will be in the cards as well. Are you saying that nothing you've added speaker wise sounds good in the F3?
    That is what I'm saying. The woofer speaker terminals have only the bass frequencies. No good for coax speakers. I have not tried the the midrange terminals to see if they are full range. I tried to hook up an amp (old Rockford Fosgate 200s Punch) and got no results with that on the woofers terminals either. I will be trying again in a few months. If anyone knows who Derrick Johnson is or how to get hold of him, let me know. In the video it looks as if he's using the Green wires for the amp input which are the midrange wires. I believe I will be putting the amp in the frunk close to the battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattlebars View Post
    That is what I'm saying. The woofer speaker terminals have only the bass frequencies. No good for coax speakers. I have not tried the the midrange terminals to see if they are full range. I tried to hook up an amp (old Rockford Fosgate 200s Punch) and got no results with that on the woofers terminals either. I will be trying again in a few months. If anyone knows who Derrick Johnson is or how to get hold of him, let me know. In the video it looks as if he's using the Green wires for the amp input which are the midrange wires. I believe I will be putting the amp in the frunk close to the battery.

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    My bet is they have a passive crossover hidden somewhere, so you'd need to find that or just run new speaker wires to get rid of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcvay1979 View Post
    My bet is they have a passive crossover hidden somewhere, so you'd need to find that or just run new speaker wires to get rid of that.
    Passive crossover on the OEM wires after the amp? Nothing like that shows up in the circuit. Speaker part of the circuit shown here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattlebars View Post
    Passive crossover on the OEM wires after the amp? Nothing like that shows up in the circuit. Speaker part of the circuit shown here:

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    Then I'd say the factory amplifier is routing the signals, which I suppose makes sense as they're using a mid and a woofer. So the best bet is to bypass the factory amp altogether or install true mids in the stock location and woofers as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcvay1979 View Post
    Then I'd say the factory amplifier is routing the signals, which I suppose makes sense as they're using a mid and a woofer. So the best bet is to bypass the factory amp altogether or install true mids in the stock location and woofers as well?
    I need to clarify this thread. I've poured over that video and it seems that he's used the Green "midrange" wires to drive a 2 channel amp running the Coax speakers installed. If you play the video, you will notice that when he demonstrates the sound, there is NO BASS at all, just mid to upper highs because I believe he's using the "midrange" output from the stock radio into a 2 channel (left & right) amp. The bass voice coils don't vibrate at all by the reflection in them. I plan to use a 4 channel amp and run both the OEM midrange and the woofer speaker outs through the amp and get a quality set of component speakers to get the signal from all four channels IE Left two speakers and right 2 speakers.

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    So what year has a better audio system? The older ones with 2 amps or the newer ones with 1 6x20? The speakers for the 2016 & 2017 are 3x the price of the 2018 & 2019. Not saying that higher price is better quality.
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    I'm still contemplating upgrading the speakers and maybe adding an amp. I wonder if the rear speakers would provide a full range out to send to an amp. Then you'd have to run wires to the front dash and add new speakers, but that may be the only way to pickup full range.

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    Have you found a solution to resolve the popping sound? I've been scouring the Spyderlovers forum seeking for help from others who are experiencing similar. My '18 F3L has been in the shop four times to try and resolve the issue since spring 2018 - video for reference. Latest software update v20.8 I had completed in July 2019 unfortunately didn't resolve the popping issue.

    Anytime my steering bar is turned left/right, static noise emanates from the speakers while in FM station is broadcasting. In the meantime I've had four brand new '18 RT Ltd on loan which also makes the same identical staticky noise through the speakers (video) when the steering is turned left/right. I've asked the dealer to relay this to BRP because I'm suspecting more '18 Spyders with the new digital dash cluster likely has this same issue.

    >Has anyone specifically only with the '18 or newer model Spyder's (RT or F3's) that utilises the new digital display cluster notice if:
    1) ALL their speakers clip on music's bass points, even while at low volume
    2) the FM tuner signal seem is quite staticky and
    3) volume output has to be turned up nearly 80%+ in order to hear it at speeds above 50mph/80kph?

    I compared my '18 F3 LTD radio volume output against a 2017 F3-LTD. On the 2017 I set the volume output (tuned to the same radio station AND using a music streaming device playing the same song) at 30% and then adjusted the 2018 to an equal level output. My Spyder had to be set at 60% to be equal to the 2017. I've tried this also with the 2018 models with my dealer's new floor models against the 2017's and reproduced the same results.
    Quote Originally Posted by JP58 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by JS3535 View Post
    So what year has a better audio system? The older ones with 2 amps or the newer ones with 1 6x20? The speakers for the 2016 & 2017 are 3x the price of the 2018 & 2019. Not saying that higher price is better quality.
    This info is from actually HEARING them perform …. the 16 & 17 speakers were about equal to what I achieved with my 2 ohm JBL speakers …. which is damn good …. however in 18 & 19 the same engineer who screwed up the whole DESS issue probably " FIXED " the also not broken speakers from 16 & 17 ….. this seems to be a common practice at BRP ….. maybe that engineer is a nephew of the founder ….. jmho …. Mike

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    I'd like to replicate the harness that goes from the radio to the rear speaker amp. I've got a top case but no amp. Does anyone have a schematic or pinout for that harness? The 2017 F3 Limited schematic doesn't show it, as far as I can tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssiggy View Post
    I'd like to replicate the harness that goes from the radio to the rear speaker amp. I've got a top case but no amp. Does anyone have a schematic or pinout for that harness? The 2017 F3 Limited schematic doesn't show it, as far as I can tell.
    f3T & Ltd shown. The RaDiO RDO is in the rear under the cowl/(top case?) and the audio unit controls the radio. I would guess that the rear speakers are parallel to the "front" as shown. RW2=right woofer negative RW1=right woofer positive. Extrapolate from there where M = midrange. (no "rear") shown.

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