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    Default Dreaded seat again

    Is it the seat or is my butt is broken. The stock seat had me squirming at mile 50 with no relief after a short stop. My ultimate seat is good to around mile 80 and with a 10 minute stop good for another 80. Should I try another seat or is this normal? I have never been comfortable on longer rides no matter what I was riding so it's probably me.
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    Russell Day Long. The best by most anybody's standards. I'm on number seven. You can spend a ton of money on seats but if you buy Russell you will only spend it once.

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    Default I can cure your sore butt problem

    There is no need to buy an expensive new seat..............
    All you need is one of my Motorcycle Dave's Seat Gel Kits. $79.95 that should fix the problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmony 44 View Post
    Is it the seat or is my butt is broken. The stock seat had me squirming at mile 50 with no relief after a short stop. My ultimate seat is good to around mile 80 and with a 10 minute stop good for another 80. Should I try another seat or is this normal? I have never been comfortable on longer rides no matter what I was riding so it's probably me.

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    I suggest these all the time because they made a big difference for me. https://ldcomfort.com/Mens-Riding-Shorts.html


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    80 miles is about right for monkey butt if you're not a conditioned long distance rider. At 80 miles it's a good idea to stop and take a break, shake it off and loosen up for 10 or so. Not a bad practice for safety reasons and to recharge your internal stay alert batteries; if you know what I mean. And yes, Russell's day long is an excellent choice.

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    Forget about all of the Asses in here, who are telling you what to do!
    You only need to listen to ONE Ass: your own!
    Everybody has their own level of comfort, and how to achieve it: happy shopping; while you find yours!
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    I can vouch for MotorcycleDaves Gel pads.
    And also try some LD Comfort shorts, if you haven't already.

    https://www.webbikeworld.com/ld-comfort-shorts-review/

    Also ---- https://alaskaleather.com/collection...pskin-buttpads --- or any like product, quite a few makers out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Forget about all of the Asses in here, who are telling you what to do!
    You only need to listen to ONE Ass: your own!
    Everybody has their own level of comfort, and how to achieve it: happy shopping; while you find yours!
    The trouble is, you need to listen to all these Asses in here to know what options are available to you, Bob .

    Dave’s gel insert may be brilliant, but I have never had any luck with gel inserts. They just don’t work for me, but it’s obvious that Dave’s insert does work for many.
    Having tried virtually every seat and option out there, my first option now when buying a new bike is to head straight to Russell Day Long where they guarantee their tailored seat will give you all day comfort. They have not failed me on my last 5 bikes .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman;1369946 [B
    Forget about all of the Asses in here, who are telling you what to do!
    You only need to listen to ONE Ass: your own!
    Everybody has their own level of comfort, and how to achieve it: happy shopping; while you find yours!
    Best advice for MANY things here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorcycledave View Post
    There is no need to buy an expensive new seat..............
    All you need is one of my Motorcycle Dave's Seat Gel Kits. $79.95 that should fix the problem
    Call me 209-887-3283
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    While it may be you, rather then spend a whole bunch of money on another seat that may not work,follow Dave's suggestion. I don't have your problem,Except for a 1969 Norton I have been able to make do with the seat on any bike I rode. Until the Spyder. It was a 2 hour seat at best. I bought Dave's gel pad and installed it myself,with his help by phone. You will find him to be very personable,VERY HELPFUL,and very available. That change took my seat from a 2 hour ride to an all day rider day after day. I think with your past experience this cheaper mod will help you decide whether or not it is you for a lot less money,and it may just solve your problem. If not,your not out much. Even buying a power staple gun I was into the seat for around $100.00.I am not an upholster and if you feel such a mod is beyond you a real upholster could do the job fairly cheaply. Good luck in your quest. Nothing is more miserable then trying enjoy a motorcycle you can't get comfortable on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus1300 View Post
    While it may be you, rather then spend a whole bunch of money on another seat that may not work,follow Dave's suggestion.
    completely. I did the mod myself, front and back, with Dave's gel/memory foam pad and it made a huge difference. I'm a left hip disarticulation amputee (leg gone from hip socket down) and have a lot of sensitivity in my left hip. This mod helped that problem immensely! The best solution for the money by far!

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    I had an Ultimate on a GW trike and found it very comfortable. But, I hated having to keep a rain cover on the seat while traveling. I did this so I didn't have to stop and put the cover on every time it rained. I also loved my Corbin, and never had to worry about a rain cover. Any thoughts on using the rain cover?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmony 44 View Post
    Is it the seat or is my butt is broken. The stock seat had me squirming at mile 50 with no relief after a short stop. My ultimate seat is good to around mile 80 and with a 10 minute stop good for another 80. Should I try another seat or is this normal? I have never been comfortable on longer rides no matter what I was riding so it's probably me.
    You are not alone. One complaint against 's is the seat. On the five I have owned--the OEM seemed to turn into mush at about 50 miles.

    I have replaced the seats on all five--usually within 500 miles of purchase. Also have used sheepskin gel and airhawk.

    Currently, both seats are BRP Comfort. I find them much better than OEM.

    There are many threads and recommendations from each one touting the brand they use. Unfortunately, you have to work through that to find the one that "suits" you.

    Visiting a gathering of 's will give you an idea what's out there and what will work for you. Good luck with the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmony 44 View Post
    Is it the seat or is my butt is broken. The stock seat had me squirming at mile 50 with no relief after a short stop. My ultimate seat is good to around mile 80 and with a 10 minute stop good for another 80. Should I try another seat or is this normal? I have never been comfortable on longer rides no matter what I was riding so it's probably me.
    Having recently transitioned from a Harley Ultra to the RTS I found the CanAm seat to be the most uncomfortable I have ever experienced. Partly due to the foot and leg ergonomics with my height. I finally ran across another rider who had a Corbin custom seat on his bike and he let me sit on it. I immediately ordered one for myself and I love it. It moves the rider back about one and a half to two inches, which makes a huge difference. We just returned from Tennessee where we spent a couple of 6 to 7 hour days riding the Smokey Mountains and the Tail of the Dragon 2 up. Stopped for a break about every two hours and it was great. The seat is terrific. Not so much the price. They're pretty pricey and I wouldn't bother to order the rider back rest if I had it to do over. It sits too high up and doesn't really provide any lumbar support. Before you spend the money, track down someone who has one and try it for yourself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wuzfuzz View Post
    Having recently transitioned from a Harley Ultra to the RTS I found the CanAm seat to be the most uncomfortable I have ever experienced. Partly due to the foot and leg ergonomics with my height. I finally ran across another rider who had a Corbin custom seat on his bike and he let me sit on it. I immediately ordered one for myself and I love it. It moves the rider back about one and a half to two inches, which makes a huge difference. We just returned from Tennessee where we spent a couple of 6 to 7 hour days riding the Smokey Mountains and the Tail of the Dragon 2 up. Stopped for a break about every two hours and it was great. The seat is terrific. Not so much the price. They're pretty pricey and I wouldn't bother to order the rider back rest if I had it to do over. It sits too high up and doesn't really provide any lumbar support. Before you spend the money, track down someone who has one and try it for yourself.
    Having experienced the original seat, and the BRP ultra (h ha) I knew I had to go a different route for my new 2017. I went to Corbin and they built me a truly custom seat. Back 4 and up 1. Beautifully stitched, fairly flat,nicely firm, just beautiful. I didn't mind losing the driver backrest option, and I didn't care about the passenger room. This thing is AWESOME. and they were excellent to deal with.
    I need to get some pics up of my new ryde anyway, so soon you can all look at their handiwork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmony 44 View Post
    Is it the seat or is my butt is broken. The stock seat had me squirming at mile 50 with no relief after a short stop. My ultimate seat is good to around mile 80 and with a 10 minute stop good for another 80. Should I try another seat or is this normal? I have never been comfortable on longer rides no matter what I was riding so it's probably me.
    How long have you had he ultimate seat??? I ask because there is a break in period to get used to most aftermarket seats.
    I ask because I'm like you. I've never had a stock seat on a motorcycle that didn't cause me exteme pain.
    With our 2011 Spyder RT my wife and I were good for about 50 miles before we had to get the heck off the bike.
    We bought an untimate seat and now we're good for 80-100 miles. When I'm riding alone with the untimate seat I can ride until I need gas.
    I've used 3 different aftermarket seats on several 2 wheel bikes.
    Ultimate: the best we've used for the price
    Corbin: too hard for both of us
    Mustang: better than the corbin but definately not as good for us as the ultimate.

    Hve you tried an Air Hawk cushion? A lot of people say that the really help. We tried them on the stock Spyder seat and the definately helped but the ultimate seat helped more.
    We haven't used the Air Hawk cushions with the ultimate seat because we haven't felt the need.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmony 44 View Post
    Is it the seat or is my butt is broken. The stock seat had me squirming at mile 50 with no relief after a short stop. My ultimate seat is good to around mile 80 and with a 10 minute stop good for another 80. Should I try another seat or is this normal? I have never been comfortable on longer rides no matter what I was riding so it's probably me.
    My same comments replaced Ultimate seat with same issues with Hartco seat Cresent City Florida problem solved. Contact Mark Hart great person building seats since 1989.

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