Results 1 to 21 of 21
  1. #1
    Active Member 2013REDRTS's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Central Indiana
    Posts
    114
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default New front brake pads

    I'm installing a set of EBC front pads on after work today. I got the #FA630HH from Ebay. Fronts are starting to make a little noise so I decided to just change them out. Seems to be straight forward replacement.
    2013 RED RT-S SE-5. Nothing special, but it's mine. I call it El Diablo Rojo
    US ARMY Combat Engineer. Sapper Strike!

  2. #2
    Very Active Member SPYD3R's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    GREENVILLE, SC
    Posts
    3,372
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default CLIPS

    very easy job....
    i'll be doing mine in a couple weeks, just before we head off to Deadwood...
    during disassembly, be careful of the little clips that hold the rod in place, they seem to grow wings and fly off to never-never-land...
    OH, and remove the cover on the reservoir before you try to squeeze the calipers...
    Dan P
    SPYD3R

  3. #3
    Active Member 2013REDRTS's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Central Indiana
    Posts
    114
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    I hope it goes as easy it it looks. I would think the combination of the EBC pads with the Brembos this thing should stop on a dime, not that it stops bad now.
    2013 RED RT-S SE-5. Nothing special, but it's mine. I call it El Diablo Rojo
    US ARMY Combat Engineer. Sapper Strike!

  4. #4
    Very Active Member billybovine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Mitchell, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    6,263
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Check your rear brake pads. Normally they need to change twice as often as the front.

    2018 F3 LIMITED

  5. #5
    Very Active Member hypurone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    NorCal - Northbay
    Posts
    1,125
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SPYD3R View Post
    OH, and remove the cover on the reservoir before you try to squeeze the calipers...
    To expand on this a bit. If you have added fluid to the reservoir at any point (it will drop as the pads wear and the pistons move farther out in their bores) be sure to draw off some of the fluid to avoid overflow! If you don't have the vacuum tool for this, a turkey baster works. There are also syringe type devices at auto parts stores for this.

    '15 F3-S Pure Magnesium Metallic - Mad Max Edition
    '15 Mclaren 650S Coupe - Aurora Blue

    "You Were Really Flyin', When I Passed You Back There!"

    Chuck
    2015 F3-S , Pure Magnesium Metallic/Steel Black Metallic

  6. #6
    SpyderLovers Sponsor BajaRon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Greeneville, TN
    Posts
    13,519
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    Check your rear brake pads. Normally they need to change twice as often as the front.
    True for the 2008-2012 Spyders. But not usually true for the 2013-2018 Spyders. The early Spyders had a great deal of bias on braking for the rear tire. I think the engineers felt that getting the rear tire to brake first and release last would help stabilize the Spyder during braking. But it appears that this bias has been reduced quite a bit as most of the later design appear to wear the pads at a much more even rate.
    Shop Ph: 423-609-7588 (M-F, 8-5, Eastern Time)

    Only SLOW people have to leave on time...





  7. #7
    Very Active Member billybovine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Mitchell, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    6,263
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    True for the 2008-2012 Spyders. But not usually true for the 2013-2018 Spyders. The early Spyders had a great deal of bias on braking for the rear tire. I think the engineers felt that getting the rear tire to brake first and release last would help stabilize the Spyder during braking. But it appears that this bias has been reduced quite a bit as most of the later design appear to wear the pads at a much more even rate.
    My 2013 did.

    2018 F3 LIMITED

  8. #8
    Very Active Member oldguyinTX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Central Texas
    Posts
    3,381
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    My only question to you is, why would you not buy them from BajaRon, a site sponsor? He has great prices and great service.
    "A Wise Man Once Said, I Should Ask My Wife."
    2017 Champagne Metallic RT-S SE-6 Rivco Dual Flag Holders; Slingmods Highway Pegs; (Hate Them) Airhawk Seat Cushion; Show Chrome Black Touring Rack w/ Risers & Touring Windshield; RAM X Mount For TXTAG; TackForm Phone Mount; Lidlox; Magic Mirror Mounts; Guardian Bells; WOLO "Bad Boy" Air Horn; Dual USB Power Outlet With Voltmeter; Spyderpops Full View Mirror Turn Signals; Large Brake Pedal; Kott Grilles; Large Mud Flap; BajaRon 3 Piece Sway Bar, Last But Not Least, Kuhmo Rear Rire, Vedrestien Fronts.
    2017 RT-S , Brake pedal extender is twice the size of the stock pedal. Champagne Metallic

  9. #9
    Active Member nhoj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Aurora Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    387
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by oldguyinCT View Post
    My only question to you is, why would you not buy them from BajaRon, a site sponsor? He has great prices and great service.
    Maybe he did. Ron sells on eBay too.
    Marilyn 2015 RTS SE6 Red
    John 2015 F3S SE6 Silver

    previous:
    2011 RT SM5 Silver
    2013 STS SM5 Silver

    "common sense will prevail....but we see no sign of that"

  10. #10
    Very Active Member Chupaca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    San Diego, CA.
    Posts
    31,097
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default Someday...

    Will have to do mine someday...42,000 miles the rears did go quicker but even when I changed them at 33,000 they were not at the limit. .
    Gene and Ilana De Laney
    Mt. Helix, California

    ​2012 RS sm5
    2012 RS sm5 , 998cc V-Twin 106hp DIY brake and park brake Classic Black

  11. #11
    Very Active Member oldguyinTX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Central Texas
    Posts
    3,381
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by nhoj View Post
    Maybe he did. Ron sells on eBay too.
    You are right, I forgot about that. I always just deal with Ron directly.
    "A Wise Man Once Said, I Should Ask My Wife."
    2017 Champagne Metallic RT-S SE-6 Rivco Dual Flag Holders; Slingmods Highway Pegs; (Hate Them) Airhawk Seat Cushion; Show Chrome Black Touring Rack w/ Risers & Touring Windshield; RAM X Mount For TXTAG; TackForm Phone Mount; Lidlox; Magic Mirror Mounts; Guardian Bells; WOLO "Bad Boy" Air Horn; Dual USB Power Outlet With Voltmeter; Spyderpops Full View Mirror Turn Signals; Large Brake Pedal; Kott Grilles; Large Mud Flap; BajaRon 3 Piece Sway Bar, Last But Not Least, Kuhmo Rear Rire, Vedrestien Fronts.
    2017 RT-S , Brake pedal extender is twice the size of the stock pedal. Champagne Metallic

  12. #12
    Active Member Rookiespyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Hanover Ont Canada
    Posts
    166
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    Check your rear brake pads. Normally they need to change twice as often as the front.
    Hello as a fellow Ontarion how many km do you put on before you change your brake pads.


    2015 RT Limited

  13. #13
    Very Active Member IdahoMtnSpyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Idaho
    Posts
    9,767
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    If you haven't changed them yet take note. You do not need to remove the calipers. The pads will slip out the back of the calipers. Just use a screwdriver or something similar to push the pads back to get the pistons all way back in. Take the rod and spring out, slip out the old, slip in the new, replace spring and rod, and you're done in about 10 minutes!

    2014 Copper RTS

    Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.
    2014 RTS , Copper! (officially Cognac)

  14. #14
    Very Active Member billybovine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Mitchell, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    6,263
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rookiespyder View Post
    Hello as a fellow Ontarion how many km do you put on before you change your brake pads.
    The only pads that I changed where on my 2013 ST. Same brembo brakes. If I remember correctly I did that at about 45,000 kms. The inside pad on the rear. The one that's hard to see. Was just starting to have metal on metal. So it should have been done sooner. You experience may vary, do to how you drive.

    2018 F3 LIMITED

  15. #15
    Very Active Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    Oakley Utah
    Posts
    8,126
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    If you haven't changed them yet take note. You do not need to remove the calipers. The pads will slip out the back of the calipers. Just use a screwdriver or something similar to push the pads back to get the pistons all way back in. Take the rod and spring out, slip out the old, slip in the new, replace spring and rod, and you're done in about 10 minutes!
    That's good to know. Which pads did you go with and do you know what the difference might be between the OEMs and EBC's (the dealer was asking me)?

    Thanks.
    2014 RTL Platinum


  16. #16
    Very Active Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    Oakley Utah
    Posts
    8,126
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    That's good to know. Which pads did you go with and do you know what the difference might be between the OEMs and EBC's (the dealer was asking me)?

    Thanks.
    Bump
    2014 RTL Platinum


  17. #17
    SpyderLovers Sponsor BajaRon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Greeneville, TN
    Posts
    13,519
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    That's good to know. Which pads did you go with and do you know what the difference might be between the OEMs and EBC's (the dealer was asking me)?

    Thanks.
    The OEM are an Organic pad. Usually Kevlar. You will see pad sets touted as 'KEVLAR' on eBay and Amazon, etc., which makes them sound awesome! But you are getting OEM quality at best. And usually not that good unless they are listed as BRP pads.

    The best braking material is Semi-Metallic. This version has steel particles embedded into the resin compound. They stop the best and are very resistant to fade. But they are very hard on the rotor, tend to make a lot of noise, and leave a lot of brake dust that will rust because of the steel.

    My Premier Addition Spyder came with Semi-Metallic pads as did all the early Spyders. They stopped incredibly well even with the cheesy Chinese calipers. But the negative factors listed above did them in and BRP started putting Organic pads on later models.

    The quest has been to come up with a pad that works as well as the Semi-Metallic without all the negatives. The OEM Organic pads are inexpensive, are very easy on the rotors, usually don't make any noise (emphases in the 'Usually'), create very little brake dust which will not discolor your wheels and is relatively easy to wash off. But they wear quickly, do not stop nearly as well, and will fade much more quickly than Semi-Metallic pads.

    EBC developed the Fully Sintered pads for racing. They replaced the steel component with a copper alloy. These stop nearly as well as Semi-Metallic, are a bit more fade resistant, create a bit more dust than Organic but much less then Semi-Metallic. The brake dust will not rust or discolor the wheels, but can be a bit more difficult (though not hard) to remove than organic dust. They wear much better than organic but not quite as well as Semi-Metallic. They are much easier on the rotors than Semi-Metallic, they last longer than the OEM Organic (and nearly as long as the Semi-Metallic), and they are as quiet as the OEM Organic pads.

    There is much more to a brake pad than most people realize. And you never know when you will need an exceptional brake pad.
    Last edited by BajaRon; 07-16-2018 at 08:59 AM.
    Shop Ph: 423-609-7588 (M-F, 8-5, Eastern Time)

    Only SLOW people have to leave on time...





  18. #18
    Very Active Member DGoebel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Faribault, MN
    Posts
    2,209
    Spyder Garage
    2

    Default

    I've just given Ron's front EBC pads and rotors a good 4,800 mile test and am very happy with the stopping power, wet stopping power, and haven't noticed any issues with brake dust so far.
    Rode up to Canada, down to Florida, Up part of the Cherohala Skyway, down the Tail of the Dragon (lot's of braking there), and up and down the Devil's Triangle LOT'S of HARD braking there. and Damn those EBC pads and rotors stop great!
    Safe Rides,
    David and Sharon Goebel
    Both Retired USAF Veterans
    2018 Anniversary Edition RT Limited
    Baja Ron ultimate swaybar. Vredestein tires, Baja Ron Front Shock Pre-load adjusters, Pedal Box, See my Spyder Garage
    IBA 70020

  19. #19
    Very Active Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    Oakley Utah
    Posts
    8,126
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    The OEM are an Organic pad. Usually Kevlar. You will see pad sets touted as 'KEVLAR' on eBay and Amazon, etc., which makes them sound awesome! But you are getting OEM quality at best. And usually not that good unless they are listed as BRP pads.

    The best braking material is Semi-Metallic. This version has steel particles embedded into the resin compound. They stop the best and are most resistant to fade. But they are very hard on the rotor, tend to make a lot of noise, and leave a lot of brake dust that will rust because of the steel.

    My Premier Addition Spyder came with Semi-Metallic pads as did all the early Spyders. They stopped incredibly well even with the cheesy Chinese calipers. But the negative factors listed above did them in and BRP started putting Organic pads on later models.

    The quest has been to come up with a pad that works as well as the Semi-Metallic without all the negatives. The OEM Organic pads are inexpensive, are very easy on the rotors, usually don't make any noise (emphases in the 'Usually'), create very little brake dust which will not discolor your wheels and is relatively easy to wash off. But they wear quickly, do not stop nearly as well, and will fade much more quickly than Semi-Metallic pads.

    EBC developed the Fully Sintered pads for racing. They replaced the steel component with a copper alloy. These stop nearly as well as Semi-Metallic, are a bit more fade resistant, create a bit more dust than Organic but much less then Semi-Metallic. The brake dust will not rust or discolor the wheels, but can be a bit more difficult (though not hard) to remove than organic dust. They wear much better than organic but not quite as well as Semi-Metallic. They are much easier on the rotors than Semi-Metallic, they last longer than the OEM Organic (and nearly as long as the Semi-Metallic), and they are as quiet as the OEM Organic pads.

    There is much more to a brake pad than most people realize. And you never know when you will need an exceptional brake pad.
    Fantastic. Thanks Ron.
    2014 RTL Platinum


  20. #20
    Active Member papanorm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    central texas
    Posts
    343
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    I installed Ron’s pads recently and I am very impressed with the new pads. The OEM’s seemed to not stop as well as time and miles went on.
    2016 F3L , Big Bike Parts Black

  21. #21
    Very Active Member IdahoMtnSpyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Idaho
    Posts
    9,767
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    That's good to know. Which pads did you go with ...
    EBCs from Baja Ron.

    2014 Copper RTS

    Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.
    2014 RTS , Copper! (officially Cognac)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •