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DREADED P1614.. FAULT.
After riding around Fundy National park in New Brunswick, Canada, Sue and i stopped at a restaurant to have a bite to eat. After lunch turned Spyder on and went to start Spyder. After it started in was running on one cylinder and I could smell gas. Check engine light was on. Pulled code and it was P1614. Shut off Spyder. Turned it back on and I started it again, same thing. Shut down and tryed again to start. This time it started with no faults. Made it back to hotel and did some research. I had my laptop with me, so I had the manual to research. Searched here on Spyder, lovers and found a wealth of info. Later that evening Sue and I wanted to check out this Italian restaurant. By the way it was only 49 degrees out. Spyder did the same thing twice and then started ok. We ate supper and had a great meal. Spyder started up with no problems.
Packed up our gear this morning and was heading for home. (650 miles). It was 48 degrees this morning. It took three tries this morning to get it started with no problem. For the rest of the day it started ok. Probably 10 times. Before we got home I stopped by an auto parts store. Picked up a can of sea foam and a can of throttle body cleaner.
Arrived home and got all un packed and went out to the garage to tackle the P1614 error code. Pulled the top of the air breather cover off. Reached in and felt the butterfly valves. WOW, where they ever tackey, gummy and dirty. Removed the main relay,(2011 RTS). This stops the 40 minute timer (high pitched tone). Sprayed a clean day with cleaner and wiped down the 2 valves. Direct sprayed the pivot points. Wiped down again. Put relay back in and started bike up. Ran great. Stuck my fingers on the valves and monitored the action of the valves. They seemed in sync. Checked my MAP sensor lines. They are in great shape ( no cracks). Put bike all back together. Started up and ran great. Hopefully it will start on tomorrow morning.
If you have a v-twin i would be checking these on your next service. Again I could not believe how sticky mine where. Bruce
Last edited by safecracker; 06-06-2018 at 09:09 PM.
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Took a little ride this morning and Spyder ran flawless. Bruce
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Gone but not forgotten
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P1614 fault
Originally Posted by safecracker
Took a little ride this morning and Spyder ran flawless. Bruce
Your mileage please
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2018 F3-T
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Mike all fuel related equipment is stock. Checked vacuum hoses, they are in good shape. Air box did have some oil in the bottom. Throttle body was replaced in 2013. I now have 59,000 miles. Ran great today. Bruce
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How nice...
I wouldsay you self mediated your spyder. Good reminder that the throttle body needs attention...I have the JT cleaner and it is a snap to clean the throttle body...
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2012 RS sm5 , 998cc V-Twin 106hp DIY brake and park brake Classic Black
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Originally Posted by safecracker
Mike all fuel related equipment is stock. Checked vacuum hoses, they are in good shape. Air box did have some oil in the bottom. Throttle body was replaced in 2013. I now have 59,000 miles. Ran great today. Bruce
If your vacuum hoses are Stock & original I would be very surprised they aren't suspect .... Strictly going by age isn't valid .... It has to combined with the mileage your engine has , the engine produces HEAT cycles ....this has a HUGH effect on wear factor...... I would have no problem using OEM vacuum hoses that were 10 years old ...IF they had been on a Dealer's shelf, in a climate controlled room, not in contact with the weather ............. But if you think they are still good, you have to deal with it .... not me .............Glad you had a great vacation ..... Mike ......PS if you think OIL in the air box is OK, well you must also think it isn't migrating to the Throttle bodies ...... Nowhere in the owner's manual does it recommend mixing oil and gas together and then putting it your gas tank like they do with 2-stroke engines - which are designed for it .......
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Mike, thank you for your in put. Oil in air box is not good. I had not had the air box off in over 2 years. I cleaned it up and I no longer keep the oil level up to the max on the dip stick. I took the vacuum hoses off and I stretched and twisted them. They are in good shape. After cleaning throttle bodies, it is running great. Bruce.
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VACUUM LINES
Originally Posted by safecracker
Mike, thank you for your in put. Oil in air box is not good. I had not had the air box off in over 2 years. I cleaned it up and I no longer keep the oil level up to the max on the dip stick. I took the vacuum hoses off and I stretched and twisted them. They are in good shape. After cleaning throttle bodies, it is running great. Bruce.
Bruce we know each other , we have broken bread together many times ....As far as those hoses go I have History on my side .... The OEM hoses have a finite life span and I'm sure yours are at the end or close to it ...... If NEW silicone hoses cost $100.00 it would be one thing ....but $3.00 ........ and it's not like a Dealer is going to rip you off with a $150.00 service charge ......you are checking these yourself ..... But Friends or not I'm not going to NAG , I'm not the one facing ...SPYDER NOT RUNNING Issues ......................Peace , Mike
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Mike, you are right. I will be getting new silicone hose this week. I have been wanting to but keep forgetting. Thanks again. Bruce.
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