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    Default 2008 Spyder gs Transmission Error message

    I purchased an 08 Spyder GS SE 5 with 7000 miles on it in the middle of December of 2017, I have recently had it to an authorized dealer for an oil change and inspection. Everything checked out fine at time of service, I put on approximately 300 miles since with no issues, but today which is hot and humid in PA and was out in some stop and go traffic, rode about 15 miles from home, I was stopped at a traffic , went to go and the dash displayed Eg and check engine light came on with transmission error. Any suggestions would be appreciated ?
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    Everything is working..? Try shutting her down pulling the key and letting the computers reset. If after that all the warnings are gone and don't come back it could be a glitch in the system from a missed shift etc. If still there or comes back could be the gear positioning sensor or the paddle shifter...
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    That does happen. A shut off and reset usually takes care of the issue.

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    Default THIS ISSUE

    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    Everything is working..? Try shutting her down pulling the key and letting the computers reset. If after that all the warnings are gone and don't come back it could be a glitch in the system from a missed shift etc. If still there or comes back could be the gear positioning sensor or the paddle shifter...
    ........ The BRP computer system is the MOST fussy one in the automotive arena ......... many FALSE positives so to speak ..... I ran my 08 GS with the DASH lit up like a Christmas tree for almost two years but it always started and ran fine ..... it could certainly be the case here ....good luck ..... Mike -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    Everything is working..? Try shutting her down pulling the key and letting the computers reset. If after that all the warnings are gone and don't come back it could be a glitch in the system from a missed shift etc. If still there or comes back could be the gear positioning sensor or the paddle shifter...

    Thank You very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    ........ The BRP computer system is the MOST fussy one in the automotive arena ......... many FALSE positives so to speak ..... I ran my 08 GS with the DASH lit up like a Christmas tree for almost two years but it always started and ran fine ..... it could certainly be the case here ....good luck ..... Mike -
    Thanks very much Mike!
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    Default Several Things Do This

    1) Electrical Noise. BRP put out a tech bulletin to ground the coil pack (on left side). The electrical noise can interfere with the TCS computer CANBUS communications, resulting in missed / wrong reading. This gets you stuck in some gear or the "E" on the dash. My GS has green 10AWG wire under the tupperware tying everything together that could be - coil, engine, frame, back to rear fender frame, etc.

    2) Gearbox position sensor. HUGE pain to replace, I have a big thread about replacing mine here on the forums. This causes the transmission icon to light, stuck in gear, in WRONG gear (says 2nd but in neutral), etc. Mine was worn out, the center shaft flopped about. About $125 replacement, watch a couple videos on getting belt off by jacking up bike and removing rear shock bolt - instead of messing with alignment screws.

    3) Stripped shift lever (rare but mentioned here on the forums)

    4) Shifting solenoid not grounded and/or not fully engaging (showing wrong gear; trans light; etc.). Solenoid puts out a big wave of electrical noise. Very randomly could interfere (based on my reading).

    5) I think there was a software update (2010??) when this was happening a lot. Would need to take to dealer to check software version.


    If you are a DYI person and take off the tupperware on the left side, also check the torque on the front sprocket (16mm?). Should be 110ft/lbs. Mine was finger loose, never had the service bulletin work done! Manual says 95 ft/lbs, it comes loose and the bolt threads started wearing. I used blue locktite per many forums' recommendation. New bolt is like $10 from cheapcycleparts.com.


    When my 2008 GS started down this road I was on all the forums researching!! Was getting tired of stopping every hour to pull key to get TCS computer to reset ...


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    Back in 08 & 09 they had a lot of GEAR POSITION SENSORS failures...I had replaced mine on my 08 way back then...

    Try doing a search here on the forum...

    BRP does not call it a GPS sensor...They have another name for it...which I don't remember now...

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    I had to replace mine too years ago. I think they call it the Gear Box Position Sensor - GBPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevencovert View Post
    1) Electrical Noise. BRP put out a tech bulletin to ground the coil pack (on left side). The electrical noise can interfere with the TCS computer CANBUS communications, resulting in missed / wrong reading. This gets you stuck in some gear or the "E" on the dash. My GS has green 10AWG wire under the tupperware tying everything together that could be - coil, engine, frame, back to rear fender frame, etc.

    2) Gearbox position sensor. HUGE pain to replace, I have a big thread about replacing mine here on the forums. This causes the transmission icon to light, stuck in gear, in WRONG gear (says 2nd but in neutral), etc. Mine was worn out, the center shaft flopped about. About $125 replacement, watch a couple videos on getting belt off by jacking up bike and removing rear shock bolt - instead of messing with alignment screws.

    3) Stripped shift lever (rare but mentioned here on the forums)

    4) Shifting solenoid not grounded and/or not fully engaging (showing wrong gear; trans light; etc.). Solenoid puts out a big wave of electrical noise. Very randomly could interfere (based on my reading).

    5) I think there was a software update (2010??) when this was happening a lot. Would need to take to dealer to check software version.


    If you are a DYI person and take off the tupperware on the left side, also check the torque on the front sprocket (16mm?). Should be 110ft/lbs. Mine was finger loose, never had the service bulletin work done! Manual says 95 ft/lbs, it comes loose and the bolt threads started wearing. I used blue locktite per many forums' recommendation. New bolt is like $10 from cheapcycleparts.com.


    When my 2008 GS started down this road I was on all the forums researching!! Was getting tired of stopping every hour to pull key to get TCS computer to reset ...


    GL!

    Steve
    Thanks very much for the info Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by larryd View Post
    Back in 08 & 09 they had a lot of GEAR POSITION SENSORS failures...I had replaced mine on my 08 way back then...

    Try doing a search here on the forum...

    BRP does not call it a GPS sensor...They have another name for it...which I don't remember now...
    Thank You
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