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    Default Electrical wiring damage

    Well, looking for some help and I’ll give a rundown on what I did. So the switch I put in to turn off her stereo so it saves battery while not using the bike was in a spot that one could accidently turn it on - putting helmet in frunk for example. So I decided to relocate it and thought I had it connected correctly, turned it on and bam, dead short, wire started burning before I was able to turn the switch off. No fuse in line from battery to switch, unfortunately I put the fuse after the switch. Reason for negative at the switch was to power an illuminated switch so she could tell if stereo was off or on.

    After calmimg down and kicking myself I decided to make sure her 2013 Spyder ST would fire up, it did. But after 10 seconds I got “ check transmission” then it showed “ check engine” message on computer. Also, would not shift into gear, turn signals won’t work and no high beam. Also, the computer won’t go through menu items. I have headlight low beam, tail lights and her heated grips, fog lights and parking brake work.

    Looked at the obvious few fuses, nothing obvious, fuses tested good with ohmeter. Not sure how to test the bigger black relay/ fuses or whatever they are.

    Any suggestions on what else I could look at? This was basically a dead short across the battery and melted the insulation off the wires, not sure how it could have affected any other wiring but apparently it did.

    Not a way to end the weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuaneR View Post
    Well, looking for some help and I’ll give a rundown on what I did. So the switch I put in to turn off her stereo so it saves battery while not using the bike was in a spot that one could accidently turn it on - putting helmet in frunk for example. So I decided to relocate it and thought I had it connected correctly, turned it on and bam, dead short, wire started burning before I was able to turn the switch off. No fuse in line from battery to switch, unfortunately I put the fuse after the switch. Reason for negative at the switch was to power an illuminated switch so she could tell if stereo was off or on.

    After calmimg down and kicking myself I decided to make sure her 2013 Spyder ST would fire up, it did. But after 10 seconds I got “ check transmission” then it showed “ check engine” message on computer. Also, would not shift into gear, turn signals won’t work and no high beam. Also, the computer won’t go through menu items. I have headlight low beam, tail lights and her heated grips, fog lights and parking brake work.

    Looked at the obvious few fuses, nothing obvious, fuses tested good with ohmeter. Not sure how to test the bigger black relay/ fuses or whatever they are.

    Any suggestions on what else I could look at? This was basically a dead short across the battery and melted the insulation off the wires, not sure how it could have affected any other wiring but apparently it did.

    Not a way to end the weekend
    Considering your lack of understanding about electrical systems, I think the only responsible advice is to take it to a qualified shop. Don't touch that bike again except to ride it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    Considering your lack of understanding about electrical systems, I think the only responsible advice is to take it to a qualified shop. Don't touch that bike again except to ride it.
    Unfortunaley I know exactly what I did, I just don’t know what damage I caused. But good advice, same one my wife gave me an hour ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuaneR View Post
    Unfortunaley I know exactly what I did, I just don’t know what damage I caused. But good advice, same one my wife gave me an hour ago
    Even tho our batteries seem small by comparison to most auto / trk. batteries, they can produce enough juice to fry wires pretty quickly...... You at a minimum strip out all the wires you put on the system for your project...... and check very closely any wires that were near them ........... PS this is why on this Forum people discuss using / adding a separate fuse block for any and all additional circuits ........Fuses are your friend ..... not dissing you on this , you were lucky this time......Answering your particular situation would require me ...seeing it .........good luck ...... Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Even tho our batteries seem small by comparison to most auto / trk. batteries, they can produce enough juice to fry wires pretty quickly...... You at a minimum strip out all the wires you put on the system for your project...... and check very closely any wires that were near them ........... PS this is why on this Forum people discuss using / adding a separate fuse block for any and all additional circuits ........Fuses are your friend ..... not dissing you on this , you were lucky this time......Answering your particular situation would require me ...seeing it .........good luck ...... Mike
    As far as I can tell the only wires damaged are the wires from my switch to the battery. Also the iginition was offf. Basically connected positive and negative across the battery and let them burn. My guess is fuses but more concerned about the computer. But I hear you on the fuseblock, dumb on my part.

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    Default WIRING ISSUES & COMPUTER

    Quote Originally Posted by DuaneR View Post
    As far as I can tell the only wires damaged are the wires from my switch to the battery. Also the iginition was offf. Basically connected positive and negative across the battery and let them burn. My guess is fuses but more concerned about the computer. But I hear you on the fuseblock, dumb on my part.
    ... If the Spyder was not " ON " ( even just the switch ) ....Unless you were in a CIRCUIT connected to one of the computers I don't see how ANY of them could be affected by your wiring error .....Remember ALL the OEM - BRP wiring is Protected, so you should check all the OEM Protection devices.... Mike

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