Arachnid Tire wear progress

[pauly1]

Without solicitation or provocation: I installed one of the old generation Arachnid brand rear tires on my F3. At 5500 miles, it is wearing flat across the tread. I'm sure they'll be haters and do betterers, but this is a good tire made for a MC application, at a fair price, readily available via order, that is by far of the 3 brands I've tried, wearing per expectations. And I am not easy on tires.

Wayne

[Chupaca]

I have about 7,000 on my arachnid and can't complain. I have had two Kendas that averaged 17,000 each with no problems. I will see how the arachnid does but so far so good. True this is not the place to mention such things....

[Warlock]

I have about 7,000 on my arachnid and can't complain. I have had two Kendas that averaged 17,000 each with no problems. I will see how the arachnid does but so far so good. True this is not the place to mention such things....

I use to wonder how so many got the miles out of the OEM tires. Our roads here in Mississippi eats tires up. Very abrasive roads. Have several buddies like myself would only get 7000 miles out of a tire. One is a lady driver and her husband and they drive very conservative. So a lot depends on road condition for the tires. I know I would hate to have road rash from our roads. Would be like a meat grinder. Getting ready to install another tire. This time is a Yokohama S drive 205/55/15. Will see how it goes. Had one on my wife's bike and it handled super in wet and dry conditions.
David

[Navydad]

I have about 7,000 on my arachnid and can't complain. I have had two Kendas that averaged 17,000 each with no problems. I will see how the arachnid does but so far so good. True this is not the place to mention such things....

This IS the place to mention such things. How else are we going to learn about what is out there for our bikes. That is what this site is all about isn't it? If not then it is time for me to go. Yeah, you are going to catch a bunch of crap, but who cares. I run a car tire and I am happy with it, but that doesn't mean you have to. When OTHERS pay for my tires and parts then OTHERS can tell me what to buy. Run your Kendas and Arachnids if you like them and tell the OTHERS to go eat a bug.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Without solicitation or provocation: I installed one of the old generation Arachnid brand rear tires on my F3. At 5500 miles, it is wearing flat across the tread. I'm sure they'll be haters and do betterers, but this is a good tire made for a MC application, at a fair price, readily available via order, that is by far of the 3 brands I've tried, wearing per expectations. And I am not easy on tires.

Wayne

Thanks for your input and thanks for the photo ..... I have a Michelin Hydro-Edge on the rear and it's actually a tad better looking than your Arachnid .... I have over 36,000 miles on the Michelin .... So get back to us when get near that mileage , so we can compare ......................Mike

[Chupaca]

I use to wonder how so many got the miles out of the OEM tires. Our roads here in Mississippi eats tires up. Very abrasive roads. Have several buddies like myself would only get 7000 miles out of a tire. One is a lady driver and her husband and they drive very conservative. So a lot depends on road condition for the tires. I know I would hate to have road rash from our roads. Would be like a meat grinder. Getting ready to install another tire. This time is a Yokohama S drive 205/55/15. Will see how it goes. Had one on my wife's bike and it handled super in wet and dry conditions.
David

So much has to do with road conditions, weather, ryding styles and the model spyder... Do hear good things about the Yokahamas...

[oldguyinTX]

I have about 10K on my Arachnid and it is holding up well. Still lots of tread left, way better than the Kenda. But then a dishwashing rubber glove would be better than a Kenda.

[Chupaca]

This IS the place to mention such things. How else are we going to learn about what is out there for our bikes. That is what this site is all about isn't it? If not then it is time for me to go. Yeah, you are going to catch a bunch of crap, but who cares. I run a car tire and I am happy with it, but that doesn't mean you have to. When OTHERS pay for my tires and parts then OTHERS can tell me what to buy. Run your Kendas and Arachnids if you like them and tell the OTHERS to go eat a bug.

I do every time asked, even after reading all the posts about things here I will still go out and try for myself. Have not been disappointed with my choices. So stay with us I can take the flack and know there is a lot to take into consideration...

[ofdave]

curious,
does the Arachnid say anything on the sidewall about being a special motorcycle tire?

[AY4B]

curious,
does the Arachnid say anything on the sidewall about being a special motorcycle tire?

http://www.spydercomfort.com/tires.htm

[Warlock]

So much has to do with road conditions, weather, ryding styles and the model spyder... Do hear good things about the Yokahamas...

Had put one on my wife's bike and we had 7 of us on a trip and got into some serious rain. She was the only bike that didn't hydro plane. I was worried about her because she was still pretty new in her riding skills. Nice looking tire with good rain grooves. It's a softer compound tire. Will see how it does on mileage. I do ride pretty aggressive. Still think I'm a young fellow. Guess I need to slow down and smell the roses.
David

[Road-Kill]

I'm staying out of tire talk until I see traction tests conducted.
I'm not changing from my trusted Kenda tires because I might get a few more miles out of another brand.

[ofdave]

http://www.spydercomfort.com/tires.htm

good info, thanks
will be considering the Arachnid.
I will have to educate my dealer before he will install a non-Kenda tire.
So I still need to know if it says anything on the sidewall like the Kenda says regarding a special motorcycle tire.
Maybe someone who uses these could go look at their sidewall and see?

[SpyderAnn01]

Wayne, that’s great that you like the tire but you’re paying almost twice what you would for a car tire, I really doubt the traction is better, you likely won’t get nearly the same mileage out of it and now we all know the “special motorcycle use” designation is BS.

I’m glad they made improvements to the Arachnid but it is still made by an inferior manufacturer, Vee Rubber. Our local motorcycle tire shop absolutely will not mount a Vee Rubber tire on any motorcycle.

[petegtsv10]

Every time I see a new thread about tires I look to see if someone has mounted a UHP (Ultra High Perf) tire on a bike or Can-Am. A UHP on a car will RADICALLY change it's driving and handling characteristics. All I ever read about are mid-grade all-season tires. I know the best tires (Michelin Pilot SuperSports and others) don't come in the appropriate sizes, but there must be some UHP tire that does. A UHP tire would get less mileage than an all-season, but would still give many more miles than a MC tire. an all-season on a sportscar will feel very "sloppy" compared to an UHP tire. Replace the MPSS on a ZO6 with all-seasons and on your first drive you'll think your suspension has gotten loose! I would think that UHP precision and responsivness would be a great perk for an F3. (UHP wet weather performance has improved tremendously in the last few years.) Go to Tirerack.com to read reviews of UHP tires in our sizes and maybe someone here will make the jump. (my wife only has 6K miles on her F3 now, so tires aren't in our near future)

[ARtraveler]

Welcome from the land of between the rock and the hard place.

Here, I am stuck with OEM Kenda and do not have a choice. Not mechanical enough to mess with the back tires--so stuck with OEM.

That said, there are a lot of choices out there for most of you. Lots of brands to choose from and it's your choice and $$$.

I know there are better tires, but am stuck with OEM Kenda. I consistently get between 13K and 15k on the rear tires. Only one exception, I got 8.9K out of the "softer" rubber compound on the 2014 OEM. Currently have almost 15K on the "newer" version.

Fronts: I get 20K to 25K on them consistently--(over 5 different spyders).

[Peteoz]

I'm staying out of tire talk until I see traction tests conducted.
I'm not changing from my trusted Kenda tires because I might get a few more miles out of another brand.

Road-Kill, you seem to have a fixation that people are only putting other than Kenda on their Spyders because they will get a ‘few more miles out of another brand”. If you read most of the posts, you will find that longer tyre life is NOT the major reason that people are switching, although that can certainly be one of the benefits. Most are switching because they feel more comfortable and get better performance on a better made tyre. I, for one, would be quite happy to get the same miles as a Kenda out of a car tyre that gave me better performance and made me feel safer. Your assumption that everyone who switches to a car tyre is a cheapskate chasing better mileage is simply incorrect.

Pete

[Road-Kill]

All this talk comes from people who are only talking mileage and "feel"......never traction.
Mileage is based on facts and is a good thing.
"feel" is not based on facts and way too opinionated to be of anyone's value.
You mention performance.......
Performance also includes traction but that's taboo in this forum for reasons unknown.

Road-Kill, you seem to have a fixation that people are only putting other than Kenda on their Spyders because they will get a ‘few more miles out of another brand”. If you read most of the posts, you will find that longer tyre life is NOT the major reason that people are switching, although that can certainly be one of the benefits. Most are switching because they feel more comfortable and get better performance on a better made tyre. I, for one, would be quite happy to get the same miles as a Kenda out of a car tyre that gave me better performance and made me feel safer. Your assumption that everyone who switches to a car tyre is a cheapskate chasing better mileage is simply incorrect.

Pete

[jcthorne]

All this talk comes from people who are only talking mileage and "feel"......never traction.
Mileage is based on facts and is a good thing.
"feel" is not based on facts and way too opinionated to be of anyone's value.
You mention performance.......
Performance also includes traction but that's taboo in this forum for reasons unknown.

Not really, its just harder to test. One of the biggest reasons I wanted something better than the Kenda was for better traction. The F3 lights up the rear tire very easily. Spinning does not make for quick acceleration.

I did try a Yokomama UHP tire, the A008 and while traction was good, longevity was less than I was willing to recommend, 3000 miles. Went to the S-Drive Yoko, still better traction than the Kenda although not what the A008 offered. About 18k miles is average on the S drive on a Spyder. For me and many of my customers, its been the best combination of handling, noise, traction, longevity and price. Everyone's desired features are not the same, some do prefer the general passenger tires for longer life at the expense of traction and handling.

[Navydad]

My Kenda hydroplaned terribly in wet conditions. My General Altimax doesn't. Not about mileage or longevity for me, it is about being able to ride in adverse conditions without fear of losing control. Is that traction related enough for ya?

[Highwayman2013]

I believe Kenny Butler is using a UHP tire on the rear of his spyder. Being he is in Florida I'm sure wet performance is a factor as well.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

All this talk comes from people who are only talking mileage and "feel"......never traction.....Wrong - every tire that I have recommended has been performance oriented - wet and dry performance ...... this means TRACTION !!!!!!!
Mileage is based on facts and is a good thing.
"feel" is not based on facts and way too opinionated to be of anyone's value.
You mention performance.......
Performance also includes traction but that's taboo in this forum for reasons unknown.

I don't rely on BUTT feelings ....they are very unreliable ..... Science rules ................Mike

[Peteoz]

You mention performance.......
Performance also includes traction but that's taboo in this forum for reasons unknown.

It is? We must be reading different threads.

Pete

[Road-Kill]

What science?
Where?
Please cite the field tests conducted showing various tires and their braking distances on a Spyder. (that's called science)
You cant because it doesn't exist.......muh feelings is not science.
There are probably much better tires then Kendas but until I see the science..........................

I don't rely on BUTT feelings ....they are very unreliable ..... Science rules ................Mike

[Fatcycledaddy]

I don't rely on BUTT feelings ....they are very unreliable ..... Science rules ................Mike

I agree, science has a lot of value. However, when a race car driver is on the track, whether NASCAR, or INDY style cars, the driver is in constant communication with the crew chief on how the car is handling. What the drive BUT feels in the handling of the car can cause a tire change, suspension change, or any other multiple of things.
All of us have driven long enough to know when the Spyder we are riding handles on the corners better with one tire or another. We follow the science of the tires traction rating on wet and dry roads, the maximum load rating, and then the but feeling of how it handles on the road as I ride.
Just like in my car, I have had people recommended a tire to me, I tried it and did not like the feel on the road, so I changed.
You can also have two tires that according to science, have all of the exact same rating for traction, load, and wear, yet they feel totally different from each other in handling when installed.
I installed a tire under Mike's, Peter's and other people recommendation, I didn't like the wet traction with it. I was told to lower the air pressure on it to improve the wet traction, they have done that and it worked for them. I tried it and it worked for me also. I follow the 4 PSI rule from cold to hot, and have had zero complaints or problems with the tire.
Better traction, wet and dry, better ride, and so far better wear mileage.

Science is a must, but experience and an established history of that experience will go a long way in my book.