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    I have 15000 miles on my 2015 RT Limited at what point do I change my air filter.


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    Inspect at 6,000 or one year....inspect and or replace 12,000 or two years...I like the K&N filters. They are washable and go much further between inspections. There are other better replacement filters out there as well. This is data from a 2012 RS but I would think they are similar.... your manual should tell you....
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    All 1330 RT is around 19000 miles along with brake fluid change.
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    I don't want to hijack the thread but look at pg 120 of your operator's guide. You will note there also that you should also change the fuel filter at 19,000 miles. If you however check the maintenance schedule for a 2016 RTL on pg 126 of the operator's guide you will see that the fuel filter should be changed at 28,000 miles, not 19. I specifically asked BRPCare about the change and was told to ask my local dealer -- big help! I did ask the dealer explaining that the part numbers for the fuel filters for the 2014 and later RTs are exactly the same. Dealership told me I could extend the interval on my 2014 to 28K. I missed the 19K change and ran the original to 23K with no ill effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    ..I like the K&N filters. They are washable and go much further between inspections.
    I don't.
    There is a good reason why they go longer between services: They trap less dirt.
    Guess where that missed dust GOES ??

    There is a good reason why the ENTIRE ROAD VEHICLE INDUSTRY stopped using oil bath air filters about 50 years ago: Pleated paper works better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Rider View Post
    I don't.
    There is a good reason why they go longer between services: They trap less dirt.
    Guess where that missed dust GOES ??

    There is a good reason why the ENTIRE ROAD VEHICLE INDUSTRY stopped using oil bath air filters about 50 years ago: Pleated paper works better.
    And yet we have a person who went 123,600 miles on a 2014 RT with a K&N air filter and it was fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwayman2013 View Post
    And yet we have a person who went 123,600 miles on a 2014 RT with a K&N air filter and it was fine.
    And yet that is called an "anecdote" and it proves nothing.

    Even if it is absolutely true, it is only ONE case and we don't know what his intake or the cylinder wear looks like.

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    Default here is another" anecdote"

    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Rider View Post
    And yet that is called an "anecdote" and it proves nothing.

    Even if it is absolutely true, it is only ONE case and we don't know what his intake or the cylinder wear looks like.
    I've put K&N filters on everything I owned for a long, long time. Some high mileage vehicles too and no loss of compression ( Yes I checked ). A scientific study----no, but with no compression loss and millions of K&N filters out there I will keep using them.

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    I have a K&N filter in my 2009 Ford Focus.
    Last week it passed 250,000 miles.
    Of course, this means nothing as there is no dust in the air here in Wisconsin.
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    [QUOTE=Easy Rider;1342706]And yet that is called an "anecdote" and it proves nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Rider View Post
    I don't.
    There is a good reason why they go longer between services: They trap less dirt.
    Guess where that missed dust GOES ??

    There is a good reason why the ENTIRE ROAD VEHICLE INDUSTRY stopped using oil bath air filters about 50 years ago: Pleated paper works better.
    So is this an anecdote too? Since the K&N really isn’t an oil bath air filter unless it has a sump filled with oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Rider View Post
    I don't.
    There is a good reason why they go longer between services: They trap less dirt.
    Guess where that missed dust GOES ??

    There is a good reason why the ENTIRE ROAD VEHICLE INDUSTRY stopped using oil bath air filters about 50 years ago: Pleated paper works better.
    I question that. The main reason for any kind of switch of that sort is cost, pure and simple. Originally installing and later changing out a paper filter is a whole lot easier and less messy and overall lower cost than the oil bath air cleaners. A mechanic cousin told me 60 years ago the primary reason the auto industry switched to tubeless tires was that the tubeless one could be easily mounted by a machine on an assembly line and cost less than than tube tires. Back in the mid 50's there was nothing inherently better in the function of a tubeless vs. a tube tire. A factory manager at a Nissan plant in England told me back in 1989 that every request for a part change from a supplier had to start with the words "in order to improve the quality" or "in order to reduce the cost."

    Oh, and by the way, if oil bath is no good then why does Honda use an oil soaked foam air filter in its ATVs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwayman2013 View Post
    So is this an anecdote too? Since the K&N really isn’t an oil bath air filter unless it has a sump filled with oil.
    No, tests have been done. By reputable people who are NOT paid by K&N.
    If you search hard enough you should be able to find them.

    And.....the purpose of the "sump" was to keep oil on the filter strands which actually trap the dirt particles that they contact.

    K&N does not make bad products but they are mostly designed and intended for RACING applications where the main considerations are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post

    Oh, and by the way, if oil bath is no good then why does Honda use an oil soaked foam air filter in its ATVs?
    I don't know. Maybe you should ask them ??

    A paper filter is a BAD choice if it will be operated in an environment where the paper might get WET.

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    The K&N topic is discussed endlessly on virtually every motorcycle forum in existence with those that hate and those that love them with very little in between. I personally do not favor them, but that's me. I will throw into the discussion something that is often overlooked. With a K&N or oil covered foam filters regular maintenance is a must not because of dirt contamination, but because the oil ages and dries out and thereby loses it's ability to trap particulars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Rider View Post
    I don't know. Maybe you should ask them ??

    A paper filter is a BAD choice if it will be operated in an environment where the paper might get WET.
    I believe the reason Honda uses an oil soaked foam filter is because ATVs are almost always ridden in very dusty environments!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KX5062 View Post
    The K&N topic is discussed endlessly on virtually every motorcycle forum in existence with those that hate and those that love them with very little in between. I personally do not favor them, but that's me.
    I've always tended to use OEM brand or brands popular with auto service people like what NAPA sells. But I just ordered an air filter from Baja Ron, and he sells the K&N air filter only. I figure it must be quite adequate or he wouldn't sell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Rider View Post
    I don't. There is a good reason why they go longer between services: They trap less dirt. Guess where that missed dust GOES ??

    There is a good reason why the ENTIRE ROAD VEHICLE INDUSTRY stopped using oil bath air filters about 50 years ago: Pleated paper works better.
    K&N filters are pleated paper. They are not 'oil bath'. And, they are used a lot in vehicles of all types.

    I don't know where you are getting your information, but it's just plain wrong and not helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    K&N filters are pleated paper.
    K&N makes more than one kind of filter.

    Actually, the SELL more than one kind; who knows where they actually are made.

    The most common type is advertised as a "high flow performance" type which is a mesh that needs to be cleaned and oiled periodically.
    I ASSumed that was the type sold for Spyders......but I don't know for sure.

    You can NOT clean and oil a pleated paper filter.

    My information might be incomplete......but what you said is just plain wrong.

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    Here's from the K&N home page, cotton gauze, not paper.
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