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    Default LASER WHEEL ALIGNMENT

    I'm going to build my own laser wheel alignment kit. Can someone point me in the right direction regarding good magnetic base lasers. Must be accurate over a said distance. Don't want to spend heaps. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treva View Post
    I'm going to build my own laser wheel alignment kit. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as cheap/good magnetic base lasers. Thanks.
    Cheap and good generally don't coexist. You have my best regarding your undertaking. Good luck and have fun, keep us advised your results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dogs View Post
    Cheap and good generally don't coexist. You have my best regarding your undertaking. Good luck and have fun, keep us advised your results.
    I hear what you say so I edited it.

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    Default magnets ?

    are the " lasers " going to mount right to the wheels ? ( I think you are going to mount them a different way ) ... 40 to 70 dollars is in the field of the not so cheap , cheap lasers I would think

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    I use johnson laser levels bought from northern tool. They are the cheapest you can get and still be able to adjust the lasers. You will want to verify the laser accuracy before doing your alignment. There are videos on youtube showing how. I use my own laser alignment equipment with perfect results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youngers View Post
    are the " lasers " going to mount right to the wheels ? ( I think you are going to mount them a different way ) ... 40 to 70 dollars is in the field of the not so cheap , cheap lasers I would think
    Yes, mounted on a steel plate which is attached to the front discs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel The Biker View Post
    I use johnson laser levels bought from northern tool. They are the cheapest you can get and still be able to adjust the lasers. You will want to verify the laser accuracy before doing your alignment. There are videos on youtube showing how. I use my own laser alignment equipment with perfect results.
    Thanks JTB, I will certainly look at the johnson levels & good on you for doing your own alignment.

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    The laser alignments that are being commercially performed; are actually pretty inexpensive. While I applaud ingenuity: I also have to question your motives for this exercise...
    The folks that have developed these processes, have spent lots of effort, time, and money.
    Are you looking for a way to simply undercut them?
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    Default One thing missing....

    As mentiioned on many of the DIY laser alignment projects is the fact you still need to get into the system with BUDS to re-set the angle sensor. You may have a friendly dealer that will help you out or charge a bit less than a laser alignment would cost you.
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    Here are a set of good lasers and how to check them and also how I check and Align on my Spyder. They will tell you on here you are wasting time and money and you will need BUDs reset afterwards and it is not correct. It sure changed the handling and ride on mind. I am not taking it anywhere I would be afraid they will change it. They sure won't tell you it is right.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    As mentiioned on many of the DIY laser alignment projects is the fact you still need to get into the system with BUDS to re-set the angle sensor. You may have a friendly dealer that will help you out or charge a bit less than a laser alignment would cost you.
    Seems like penny wise and dollar foolish
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    Seems like penny wise and dollar foolish
    I got to omit I am not very smart because I don't know what you mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerald37 View Post
    I got to omit I am not very smart because I don't know what you mean.
    Just that you're likely to spend more than you save with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    Just that you're likely to spend more than you save with this.
    I have put new car tires on it, balanced them all, Doc's belt tensioner, realigned and set the tension on the belt, laser aligned it, bleed the brakes and it handles and rides like a dream. At 80 mile an hour on a smooth highway let loose of the handles bars it stays straight for long distance. Lock the brakes down it does not pull either way. In four months I put over 7000 miles on it and over 500 since these things were done. It shows no codes. When I purchased it two people had owned and they did not like it because it wander all over the road had vibration and keep taking it to one of the local dealers and was charging them a arm & leg very time it went back. Dealer said there was nothing wrong with it. The last guy that had it consigned it to the Honda dealer I had been buying Gold Wings from. They called me and gave me a good trade in for my 2015 Honda F6B. They told me it did not ride or handle very good but knew I could straighten it out. I know you don't think I am very smart and I know you have a lot more education than I have but I have been a mechanic, machinist, tool & die maker and in manufacturing management all my life. NOW YOU SAY I'AM LIKELY TO SPEND MORE MONEY THAN I AM GOING TO SAVE. I love this Spyder to much to go back to the Honda F6B. This board is really good to get information and help but there is a feel people on that try to discourage people from doing things their self's. First thing that always comes up if you do that you're need to go to a dealer and have BUDs reset. It took me a month before I got courage to bleed my own brakes. Again this board is great there is people on it that will help and keep you from doing what you shouldn't and will tell you how to get around it. I do try to purchase from the supporting venders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerald37 View Post
    I have been a mechanic, machinist, tool & die maker and in manufacturing management all my life. NOW YOU SAY I'AM LIKELY TO SPEND MORE MONEY THAN I AM GOING TO SAVE. I love this Spyder to much to go back to the Honda F6B. This board is really good to get information and help but there is a feel people on that try to discourage people from doing things their self's. First thing that always comes up if you do that you're need to go to a dealer and have BUDs reset. It took me a month before I got courage to bleed my own brakes. Again this board is great there is people on it that will help and keep you from doing what you shouldn't and will tell you how to get around it.
    Then you shouldn't have any trouble sourcing the parts you need. Good luck with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    The laser alignments that are being commercially performed; are actually pretty inexpensive. While I applaud ingenuity: I also have to question your motives for this exercise...
    The folks that have developed these processes, have spent lots of effort, time, and money.
    Are you looking for a way to simply undercut them?

    I think he lives in the outback. Probably not too many Spyder laser aligning people around him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
    I think he lives in the outback. Probably not too many Spyder laser aligning people around him.
    Okay: That's a reason that makes sense.
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    ok, you set the air pressure in all 3 tires. you check and/or set belt tension/alignment. then you set up your guides and attach the lasers. all of this is in relation to the rear of the rear tire? if the front of the rear tire is kicked one way or the other due to belt alignment then the bike is still going to track down the road "doglegged", correct? seems to me the rear wheel would need to be aligned with the engine drive pulley or squared in the swingarm in order for all this to be totally accurate. how to do it I have no idea. i'm splitting hairs here but to me it just makes sense. of course i'm prolly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
    I think he lives in the outback. Probably not too many Spyder laser aligning people around him.

    Address states QLD. I think that means Queensland Australia.

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    Default Buds reset

    You will only need to do a Buds reset to zero if you change the handle bar position. If you align the wheels to the handle bar setting as it is before making adjustments. Unless for some reason the bars are off center. It will still be zeroed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
    I think he lives in the outback. Probably not too many Spyder laser aligning people around him.
    It isn't that outback we are just plain Mid Westerns.
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    I get a kick out of been able to do things myself. This laser kit is for my self. Thanks gerald37 for the videos & the other positive posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quasi View Post
    ok, you set the air pressure in all 3 tires. you check and/or set belt tension/alignment. then you set up your guides and attach the lasers. all of this is in relation to the rear of the rear tire? if the front of the rear tire is kicked one way or the other due to belt alignment then the bike is still going to track down the road "doglegged", correct? seems to me the rear wheel would need to be aligned with the engine drive pulley or squared in the swingarm in order for all this to be totally accurate. how to do it I have no idea. i'm splitting hairs here but to me it just makes sense. of course i'm prolly wrong.
    This will be my last post on laser alignment. When I corrected the belt tension and alignment I did square it in the sing arm. I do have a manual. I am not as stupid as you people think I am. My Spyder handles and rides perfectly it does not track down the road "doglegged" it does not pull either way, dose not pull when braking, no vibrations. The two people that owned it before that put the first 10,000 miles had it a number of times to the dealer and they could not make it handle right. The first owner told me the mechanic told him he did not know to much about Spyder's. They were a Honda dealer and had just the Spyder line not full Can Am line he had never been to training. I sure am not taking it back to them. You guys are not going to scare me out of owning a Spyder. In fact after this summer if my health holes out i am thing about a new one. I am 80 years old so I never know. On this Web Site I will never answer or try to help anybody again. Anybody that would like information may sent me a private message. I don't usually get this upset but it just seems like several on here just are trying to find some wrong and the reason I come on here was for help not criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerald37 View Post
    This will be my last post on laser alignment. When I corrected the belt tension and alignment I did square it in the sing arm. I do have a manual. I am not as stupid as you people think I am. My Spyder handles and rides perfectly it does not track down the road "doglegged" it does not pull either way, dose not pull when braking, no vibrations. The two people that owned it before that put the first 10,000 miles had it a number of times to the dealer and they could not make it handle right. The first owner told me the mechanic told him he did not know to much about Spyder's. They were a Honda dealer and had just the Spyder line not full Can Am line he had never been to training. I sure am not taking it back to them. You guys are not going to scare me out of owning a Spyder. In fact after this summer if my health holes out i am thing about a new one. I am 80 years old so I never know. On this Web Site I will never answer or try to help anybody again. Anybody that would like information may sent me a private message. I don't usually get this upset but it just seems like several on here just are trying to find some wrong and the reason I come on here was for help not criticism.
    HEY THERE, nobody called you stupid! so you need to calm down. my post was basically in the form of a question. hence the ? marks. live long a prosper.

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