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    Default 3/4 Lids I am torn...

    I am thinking of getting a new lid and I am torn between the HJC jet and the shoei. If its out there I know you guys would know thanks. I will also be mounting sena 20 units both.

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    Happy hunting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOSESS View Post
    I am thinking of getting a new lid and I am torn between the HJC jet and the shoei. If its out there I know you guys would know thanks. I will also be mounting sena 20 units both.
    I recently had the same dilemma. After extensive research regarding safety, comfort, price, etc...
    I opted for the Shoei Neotech. Although it was fairly pricey, I figured it was worth the investment in the long run.
    The only issue I had was the padding was squeezing my cheek which I remedied by putting something in the helmet for a couple days which made the padding
    less fluffy. The helmet is super comfortable and I love the modular design and all of the built in goodies...
    Check it out, I love it!
    Good Luck on your search.

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    NOT to rain on your Parade ...

    But I'd feel as if I wasn't doing my job; if I didn't post this;

    Helmet Impact Study Results.jpg

    Ignore it or not: the choice is yours to make.
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    Default Thank you

    Thank you for the reply, I presently own a neotec and love it, Bob great info and that's why I am asking these questions. So from what I am getting here is stay with a full face.

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    I prefer a 3/4 helmet with a short visor, when the weather cooperates. Due to the humidity here in Wisc. during the summer, it makes wearing one for the day much nicer. But I have to admit that I also wear a full-face when I'm on a trip and it starts to rain to somewhat keep my glasses drier and to also keep the rain from pelting the heck out of me. When I'm on a trip, I usually tow my trailer and I keep one in a helmet bag and one on my head and swap out as weather permits. My wife has a Shoei 3/4 type helmet but it has a full face shield with a drop-down sun visor, and she prefers that because she feels claustrophobic in a full-face style helmet. From what I have seen in the motorcycle apparel mags, that their is quite the selection of helmets and I'm sure you will find one that suits your needs and looks good to boot! Mac

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    Try the Shark Evo option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOSESS View Post
    Thank you for the reply, I presently own a neotec and love it, Bob great info and that's why I am asking these questions. So from what I am getting here is stay with a full face.
    I'm not saying anything: I just wanted to give you a little bit more information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffmal View Post
    I recently had the same dilemma. After extensive research regarding safety, comfort, price, etc...
    I opted for the Shoei Neotech. Although it was fairly pricey, I figured it was worth the investment in the long run.
    The only issue I had was the padding was squeezing my cheek which I remedied by putting something in the helmet for a couple days which made the padding
    less fluffy. The helmet is super comfortable and I love the modular design and all of the built in goodies...
    Check it out, I love it!
    Good Luck on your search.
    Me too! I really wanted the Shoei Neotech but having just getting a new Spyder and having to equip it with all the essentials farckles, I went for the HJC Modular to save a little cash. The cheek pads are also a little tight but they say to get it that way. It will break in. I went with the Sena 30K though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOSESS View Post
    Thank you for the reply, I presently own a neotec and love it, Bob great info and that's why I am asking these questions. So from what I am getting here is stay with a full face.
    It will make communicating on your Sena much clearer if you have a modular. It is hard to cut out the wind noise on a 3/4. Have you looked at those helmets that have the removable chin bar? They aren't cheap but would allow you to go with the 3/4 feel when you want and the full face/modular at other times. I think BRP has one.
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    We prefer modulars as well. I love my Shoei neotec and the wife prefers her Scorpion Exo 950. We wouldn’t leave home without them!
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    Nolan Modulars here. I have a total of eight Nolans. Started with the full faces and have worked our way to the Modulars. That is what we are now comfortable with. The latest--purchased last year have the N-com systems instead of Sena. We prefer the Sena for more clear and longer communication distance. The helmets are great. Neither one of us use the chin bars.

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    When we purchased our 2013 RTL our dealer had Nolans. We went with the N40 fulls which have the removable chin guards, ventilation could be a little better though but not bad. Like other posters here we use the chin guards on longer trips. We got 20% off thru our dealer but they were still a little pricey. Our salesman upgraded us to the Nolan B5 intercoms we love them also
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    It will make communicating on your Sena much clearer if you have a modular. It is hard to cut out the wind noise on a 3/4. Have you looked at those helmets that have the removable chin bar? They aren't cheap but would allow you to go with the 3/4 feel when you want and the full face/modular at other times. I think BRP has one.

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    Default I'm in with.....

    I have found the modular helmets work best for me and the wife. Closed up to full face when on the freeway at speeds and open on the curvy mountain road...But each ryder must find what makes them happy and safe....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOSESS View Post
    I am thinking of getting a new lid and I am torn between the HJC jet and the shoei. If its out there I know you guys would know thanks. I will also be mounting sena 20 units both.
    I have the HJC Jet, and was wearing it during my recent crash. Bought another one. It couldn't do anything to prevent the broken ribs; I did have a mild concussion, probably would have been a lot worse without a helmet.

    What I like about this helmet:
    The shield is full sized, goes down to the chin, provides a lot of face protection.
    The built in sunscreen is very useful. I didn't think I'd find this helpful, but it really works. One less thing to remember.

    I bought it in yellow. My friend who likes to ride behind (WAY behind) in group rides says she can always find me.

    In the summer, the ventilation is fine. I have yet to figure out how to install air conditioning on the Spyder, so good ventilation while moving is the best I can do. There's a couple of vents on the helmet, opening them is easy.

    I was able to get this at my local shop. Not very expensive, only a little more then the internet.

    There's really no negatives about this helmet for me. I don't use Sena or anything like that, so I can't rate how well that works. It is good for sticking my earbuds in my ears and listening to my own particular form of "music".

    Good luck in your search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    NOT to rain on your Parade ...

    But I'd feel as if I wasn't doing my job; if I didn't post this;

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    Ignore it or not: the choice is yours to make.
    excellent point
    A 3/4 helmet is too dangerous for this old head.



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    Comfort is critical and I don't think you can fully appreciate the comfort of a helmet from trying it on for 15 minutes in the store. I learned this the hard way; I bought an HJC because it looked good and felt good in the store. After an hour's ride, though, I'd have a splitting headache and big red mark on my forehead. I later learned that I have a long oval shaped head and HJC usually makes helmets for folks with round (Earth) shaped heads. That's no slap at HJC, that's just the shape they choose to make and it probably fits people with Earth-shaped heads just great. Hence I'd recommend you spend some time on WebBikeWorld and RevZilla concerning helmets and head shape. I ended up going with Arai and it's very comfortable for me because Arai's helmets are for people with long oval-shaped heads. As I understand it, Shoeis come in several different shapes, mostly for oval-shaped heads but perhaps not "long oval" like Arai. I also have to agree with the recommendation for a full-face helmet, not just for the added protection but because your communicator will work better.
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    Wow lots of info. I am heading to a shop here in nj tomorrow and check out a few. I am also going to buy from a local dealer. just so I can do my part to keep these guys in business. I figure a bit more research is needed.
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    We've been searching for helmets also. It's difficult as not many places by us have any selection of 3/4 helmets. So when we attended the motorcycle show in January we found all the brand's to try on. I thought the shoei was the ticket until I came across the Aria CTZ model. That's what we decided to buy. They're about the same money as Shoei too. I really liked the fit and so did my SO. In other helmets I've felt like my ears were being smashed against my head but not with the Arai's, nice ear pockets and good spaces for communication systems. Good luck with your search. Chris

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    In selecting a helmet, there is one question you have to ask yourself..........what is your head worth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    NOT to rain on your Parade ...

    But I'd feel as if I wasn't doing my job; if I didn't post this;

    Helmet Impact Study Results.jpg

    Ignore it or not: the choice is yours to make.
    As you can see by Bob's illustration most impact is on the chin and face area in M/C accidents. A fellow Pilot and Classmate of mine had a terrible accident with his son on the back. Car made a left hand turn and he broadsided it. He was wearing a 3/4 helmet and spent the next 6 months in the hospital while they built a new jaw with teeth a little at a time. I would never ever wear anything but a full face helmet or let a passenger do so. Small inconvenience for the safety it provides. His son went over the car and did survive with near fatal injuries.



    Please reconsider. Thanks Bob for the study/illustration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaherbst View Post
    As you can see by Bob's illustration most impact is on the chin and face area in M/C accidents. A fellow Pilot and Classmate of mine had a terrible accident with his son on the back. Car made a left hand turn and he broadsided it. He was wearing a 3/4 helmet and spent the next 6 months in the hospital while they built a new jaw with teeth a little at a time. I would never ever wear anything but a full face helmet or let a passenger do so. Small inconvenience for the safety it provides. His son went over the car and did survive with near fatal injuries.



    Please reconsider. Thanks Bob for the study/illustration.

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    hi guys/gals
    i have been reading lots, but after this comment I had to post. I would agree 100% on a full face also as I had an bike accident 20 yrs ago with a car and only part that was ok was my head as body was 80% road rash, 12 months in hospital 37 operations lower right leg amputation and helmet was trashed but not even a head concussion. So wife will let me buy a spyder now and so I bought the Daytona 500 and will also be looking at a great full face and hand brake as it was right leg amputated. So yes the head is worth saving....great site and maybe 1day run into a few people on spiders....👍🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Lee View Post
    We've been searching for helmets also. It's difficult as not many places by us have any selection of 3/4 helmets. So when we attended the motorcycle show in January we found all the brand's to try on. I thought the shoei was the ticket until I came across the Aria CTZ model. That's what we decided to buy. They're about the same money as Shoei too. I really liked the fit and so did my SO. In other helmets I've felt like my ears were being smashed against my head but not with the Arai's, nice ear pockets and good spaces for communication systems. Good luck with your search. Chris
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    We were going to go to a 3/4 but after seeing Bob's picture we decided to stay with a modular.

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