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    Default Watch out Elio....

    As I read that the Elio has been in the making now for 8 years and projection to sell stocks to collect $100,000,000 toward the $130,000,000 they need to put it into production and on the market 2018/2019... Not holding my breath on that....In passing I found this cute little Canadian electric single seater looking to get some deposits...Will this be any better ???
    electra-meccanica-solo-ces-2018-3-980x620.jpg EMV Solo and they have a Super Solo that is quite radical...Electra Meccanica (Canada)
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    I think Elio is dead. I’m not sure I would jump into this crowd begging(funding) thing ever. I think there was a helmet they tried to do this way as well. There’s a sucker born every minute.
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    I will believe in Elio when I can go to my local Elio dealer, kick the tires, and choose from 100 or so.

    PS: I am being factious here.

    The Canadian one looks a bit nicer. But I am also going to hold off on the crowd funding. PT Barnum was indeed right.

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    And he thanks you for the vote of confidence!


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    looks like they will have 3 models for sale (someday)
    prices seem to be inline with electric cars and the one shown will be under 19K
    the top of the line has hints of the Spyder but may cost 100 thou
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    I would have bought one of these, had they produced one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwayman2013 View Post
    I think Elio is dead. I’m not sure I would jump into this crowd begging(funding) thing ever. I think there was a helmet they tried to do this way as well. There’s a sucker born every minute.
    not sure if elio is dead but the founder should be with his elaborate scam

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post
    not sure if elio is dead but the founder should be with his elaborate scam
    Was it a deliberate scam ?
    Or did he just screw up big time ??

    I'm reminded of the Tucker.

    Just my opinion, I could be wrong. Of course, If I am, I'm sure someone on this forum will be happy to point it out.
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    Methinks the Elio is dead. Have not heard much in a few months now. Last I heard, they had about $40K in operating funds. That's one payroll check for the boss.

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    Default Vanderhall?

    I've been doing some research on the Vanderhall Venice, wondering if anyone else is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retread View Post
    I've been doing some research on the Vanderhall Venice, wondering if anyone else is.

    john
    my spyder/indian dealer carries them, sat in it, will probably do test drive in spring. i think they look very nice &
    would get that over a slingshot

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    Default Yikes...!!!

    They collected some $22,000,000 have 40 grand left and no cars on the road.... bunch of people made a bundle not the investors...

    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    Methinks the Elio is dead. Have not heard much in a few months now. Last I heard, they had about $40K in operating funds. That's one payroll check for the boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retread View Post
    I've been doing some research on the Vanderhall Venice, wondering if anyone else is.

    john

    I Put in an order for one. Not jumping ship, just adding to the toy box. I still love my F3S.
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    From the Elio website: https://www.eliomotors.com/bring-on-2018/

    While we work towards our target of starting production in 2019, we know that the upcoming year will be one of progress and forward momentum.
    Same story, different year!

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    2014 Copper RTS

    Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    From the Elio website: https://www.eliomotors.com/bring-on-2018/



    Same story, different year!
    Every turn of the calendar, they advance production to the next year. PT Barnum was right on the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retread View Post
    I've been doing some research on the Vanderhall Venice, wondering if anyone else is.

    john
    I saw this on Jay Leno's Garage.
    Very nice.
    Very nice indeed.
    Definitely nicer than a slingshot, and equally as nice, but far less expensive than a T-Rex.
    Not competition for the Spyder, but it's a nice complement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeWheels View Post
    I saw this on Jay Leno's Garage.
    Very nice.
    Very nice indeed.
    Definitely nicer than a slingshot, and equally as nice, but far less expensive than a T-Rex.
    Not competition for the Spyder, but it's a nice complement.


    The Slingshot isn't made for tall people. I test drove a Venice and it fit me like glove and I'm 6'4". And as you say, nicer than a Slingshot.
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    I like the looks of the Vanderhalls, but I still prefer my RT-L
    (When it finally gets here...)

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    Regarding Mr. PT Barnum “ there is a sucker born
    every min.”
    Julie and I went to the movies, our about once
    a year movie out and saw The Greatest Showman.
    I was hoping it would follow Barnum’s life and times
    Well if you plan on going.....
    It is not even close, if you go thinking as I did
    you will come away wondering what you just watched.




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    So, how does an open three wheeler with a steering wheel compare to either a new or used Miata with air and an optionally enclosed cab if necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderCodes View Post
    So, how does an open three wheeler with a steering wheel compare to either a new or used Miata with air and an optionally enclosed cab if necessary?
    It does not. PS. I would choose the Miata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorcycledave View Post
    Regarding Mr. PT Barnum “ there is a sucker born
    every min.”
    Julie and I went to the movies, our about once
    a year movie out and saw The Greatest Showman.
    I was hoping it would follow Barnum’s life and times
    Well if you plan on going.....
    It is not even close, if you go thinking as I did
    you will come away wondering what you just watched.
    I was planning on seeing that movie. Barnum was born in Bethel CT. That's the next town over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeWheels View Post
    Was it a deliberate scam ?
    If it was a deliberate scam it was the slickest of all time.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeWheels View Post
    Or did he just screw up big time ??
    I've met Paul Elio and seen his prototypes. I am convinced both he and the vehicle are for real. However, Paul is an engineer, not a financeer nor someone who has ever brought a product to market. In addition, he set some very ambitious goals for the vehicle and that may have been his undoing (and I am not conceding defeat for Elio Motors just yet). Unlike some other "inventors" who use the parts bin to cob together products Paul's idea necessitated inventing many sub-assemblies which is very expensive. In addition, part way through the prototyping process he made a deal with GM to lease/use one of their old factories in Louisiana and use part of the development money to get the plant ready for production. That may have been a huge error.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeWheels View Post
    I'm reminded of the Tucker.
    There is little or no resemblance between Tucker and Elio. Tucker posed a threat to the Big 3 of the late 1940's and they went out of their way to ensure he could not bring his vehicles to market. Tucker actually built 51 working cars and drove them publicly to prove their products. Tucker's company "failed" due to collusion between the Big 3 and a Michigan senator aided by the media. He was accused of securities fraud and even though found innocent his company folded.

    The one common thing that could be said about the two vehicles is that they both demonstrated significant new technology. In Elio's case it is the design (3 wheeler) and hyper mileage and the end design that makes it a "commuter car for the masses" (which was once the domain of the VW Beetle). In Tucker's case it was the use of a rear located air-cooled flat-six helicopter engine, safety features such as a collapsible steering wheel and uni-body construction and center headlight that followed the steering wheel.

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