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    Default The 3 wheeled cycle market just got more interesting

    Saw this article at Spyder Life Magazine. http://www.financialexpress.com/auto...nster/1002602/

    Looks like Yamaha will now have 3 reverse trike type models soon. I have to think Honda will be close behind since they have been showing concept bikes the last few years.

    What I find interesting.....Both Honda and Yamaha are showing, and in Yamaha's case building, 3 wheeled, reverse trike designs that lean. How long and how many people have been on this forum asking for BRP to have a leaning Spyder? I'm not sure why BRP has such a reluctance to building leaning and performance minded Spyders but this may finally force them to do so.

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    SORRY, but this just doesn't compete with our SPYD3RS......
    those front wheels need to be connected to a Double-Wish-Bone configuration to compete.... until a manufacturer comes out with a similar configuration, i'm not interested....
    i truly hope that HONDA BOUNCEE.jpg is researching a direct competitor to BRP's creation....
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    They look interesting, but they're not here yet, and I still prefer my Spyder!
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    In the latest issue of Rider Magazine the show some of the Yamaha line up for 2018 and the 3 wheeler is listed there with a projected test date.

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    Spyder still wins my vote

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    In the first picture showing the bike throwing dirt from the road, the rider is leaning out from the turn. Not what I would have expected. Still much prefer my Spyder
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    Default You got a Spyder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    They look interesting, but they're not here yet, and I still prefer my Spyder!
    It came in? I thought you were Spyder-free right now......
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    Love the Spyder!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cptjam View Post
    It came in? I thought you were Spyder-free right now......
    When I say "My Spyder": I'm referring to ALL of them...
    But I'm still waiting for number three.
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    As to why BRP hasn't built a leaner. Don't forget, both Yamaha and Honda are much larger companies and have deeper pockets to do R&D.
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    Yamaha just bought the patent for the Brudeli (spelling?) leaning trike. Check The Kneeslider site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    When I say "My Spyder": I'm referring to ALL of them...
    But I'm still waiting for number three.
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    When and if one of the "big boys" (Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki) does build some competition for the , it is going to be very interesting. If they are willing to keep the pricing affordable, they will have a winner.

    If they use what the market will bear pricing or if they get to the $40's, no, no, no. HD now has some models that reach the $40's.

    I am betting the new entry level GW (two wheels of course) at $23,500 is going to take off big time--again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    When and if one of the "big boys" (Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki) does build some competition for the , it is going to be very interesting. If they are willing to keep the pricing affordable, they will have a winner.

    If they use what the market will bear pricing or if they get to the $40's, no, no, no. HD now has some models that reach the $40's.

    I am betting the new entry level GW (two wheels of course) at $23,500 is going to take off big time--again.
    I think if one of the "big boys" built a reverse trike design that was designed for a different demographic than the current Spyder line up they would have a winner.

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    Since BRP stock is doing just fine (almost doubling over the past year), either they are making a total killing on other items, which I doubt, Spyders are trivial part of the company, again which I doubt, or investors are not worried about the Yamaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Rodriguez View Post
    Saw this article at Spyder Life Magazine. http://www.financialexpress.com/auto...nster/1002602/

    Looks like Yamaha will now have 3 reverse trike type models soon. I have to think Honda will be close behind since they have been showing concept bikes the last few years.

    What I find interesting.....Both Honda and Yamaha are showing, and in Yamaha's case building, 3 wheeled, reverse trike designs that lean. How long and how many people have been on this forum asking for BRP to have a leaning Spyder? I'm not sure why BRP has such a reluctance to building leaning and performance minded Spyders but this may finally force them to do so.
    Article mentions "unique looking bike".... code for FUGLY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble_B View Post
    Article mentions "unique looking bike".... code for FUGLY.
    And the Spyder isn't? My oldest daughter called it a dorky old man batmobile.

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    When they start selling them to the public and are tested by a few sources, I’ll take a look.
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    When I was at Homecoming, I noticed that one of the patents on display was for a leaning system. Just because BRP hasn't released one doesn't mean they haven't designed one. Who knows it could be the 10K Spyder coming for 2019.

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    Default Just not there...

    Still these models are like the threewheeled scooters. They have a very narrow stance with a massive amount of suspension parts up front.. I personally don't want a three wheel leaner. I would go back to two wheels you loose all the benefits ...
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    There are two 'motorcycle' markets that BRP Spyders don't cater for:

    Adventure Bikes
    Several issues here:
    • Belt drive on the Spyder is never going to be off-road friendly
    • Nanny setup + car rear tire isn't configured to handle spirited off-road riding (I've tried;-)).
    • Higher ride height would mean leaning version is required for stability
    • They already have a range of quads/side-by-sides for the off-road market so wouldn't want to poach customers, problem is these are not suitable on-road.


    Sports/Sports Tourer
    Originally this was covered by the GS/RS, with the ST being OOTB Sports Tourer. There's currently nothing in the lineup that covers that, the F3 variants being 'cruiser' based with a sitting position to match.

    Looking at the photos in that article it would suggest Yamaha may be targeting both those gaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culpjp View Post
    When I was at Homecoming, I noticed that one of the patents on display was for a leaning system. Just because BRP hasn't released one doesn't mean they haven't designed one. Who knows it could be the 10K Spyder coming for 2019.
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    Default What main one thing do you see different than a Spyder?

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    While there might be a segment that would want a leaning 3 wheeler, count me out. The point of lean is finite, I mean that past some point the geometry will lock up and not go past that lean angle. Exceed that and bad things will happen. If I want a leaning bike, it's a two wheeler that I can drag a knee. The Spyder is for more sedate riding, and I've got both sides covered, with neither being a compromise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asp125 View Post
    ...... The Spyder is even better at the fast & exciting riding than many 2 wheelers AND YET still allows for more sedate riding, so I've got both sides covered, with neither being a compromise.
    Fixed it for you asp125!

    And you are right, if you really want a bike that leans, there are already lots of great 2 wheeler examples out there, why wouldn't you??

    But then, depending on the effort you want to put in or the way you want to ryde today, the Spyder can handle the fast & exciting and the sedate & gentle and is up for soo much more besides - the only real limitation is you & the way you want to ryde! Altho I'd still like a turbo & a more relaxed nanny......
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