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    Default Global Warming......yeah, about that!

    Minus 9 here in Indiana this morning! Too cold to do my annual New Years' Ryde. If this keeps up we will have to put heaters on our Spyders. Been back in 1870...something since we were this low.
    At least this should kill off some mosquitoes for the summer....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadster Renovations View Post
    Minus 9 here in Indiana this morning! Too cold to do my annual New Years' Ryde. If this keeps up we will have to put heaters on our Spyders. Been back in 1870...something since we were this low.
    At least this should kill off some mosquitoes for the summer....
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    I remember all of that talk about us getting chilled...




    ...forty years ago!

    Right now; I could use a little bit of global warming!
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    Now, don't get me started on this

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    Default OK................

    Well we do live under a variable star ( a G2V type star) on a planet with an elliptical orbit with an axis that does wobble a bit. When these effects come into play the temperature of the earth will seem to change. The stacking effect ( machining and engineering term) is real ( in my humble opinion) Over a LOOOOONG period of time the change tends to average out. Over our SHORRRRRRT lives it may seem to make a big difference.


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    In Alaska this AM: We have 45 degrees above zero. The Pineapple Express winds are blowing again. The snow is melting again. I have not used my snowblower this season yet.

    Global warming is noticeable here. The glaciers are melting very fast--as in almost a mile a year now. The Northwest Passage is open in summer and getting earlier each year.

    Eventually we may have a Spyderfest in January here.

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    Either we are freezing or we are heating up.......what they want is taxes, manipulation and control.
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    Default Bummer.....

    That is a mite chilly.... hope you catch a break soon and get in that new year ryde....
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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    In Alaska this AM: We have 45 degrees above zero. The Pineapple Express winds are blowing again. The snow is melting again. I have not used my snowblower this season yet. Global warming is noticeable here. The glaciers are melting very fast--as in almost a mile a year now. The Northwest Passage is open in summer and getting earlier each year. Eventually we may have a Spyderfest in January here.
    That would be great. Before the mosquitoes!

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    You go ahead and believe that scientific BS. Me, I'll get my answers out of Revelations if you don't mind.
    Hi Pete,

    I am a God fearing man and the bible is very important and not to be taken lightly. But the "scientific BS" does have merit. Too bad some folks have manipulated it ( both the science and the bible) to their advantage by interpreting info to their own gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    In Alaska this AM: We have 45 degrees above zero. The Pineapple Express winds are blowing again. The snow is melting again. I have not used my snowblower this season yet.

    Global warming is noticeable here. The glaciers are melting very fast--as in almost a mile a year now. The Northwest Passage is open in summer and getting earlier each year.

    Eventually we may have a Spyderfest in January here.
    The only problem with that is according to a buddy of mine who was stationed at Fort Richardson, the mosquitoes are large enough to fly away with our Spyders. I'm not a big fan of flying insects than can drain the blood out of me with one sip.

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    If I ever get a chance to grab that Gore fella by the neck...
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    Let the deniers rejoice, can y’all swim? Hope so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadster Renovations View Post
    Been back in 1870...something since we were this low. ...
    I didn’t realise you were that old, Doc.......have you been riding a Spyder all that time ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
    Hi Pete,

    I am a God fearing man and the bible is very important and not to be taken lightly. But the "scientific BS" does have merit. Too bad some folks have manipulated it ( both the science and the bible) to their advantage by interpreting info to their own gain.

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    Not knowing all that is in the Bible despite my religious WASP upbringing, I think the recent high winds, fires, floods, storms, earthquakes... all could be the from the breath of God... a warning? or... you ain't seen nothing yet?! May be something to ponder over while enjoying your morning coffee or your evening beer... I'm not ready, but I am observing with interest....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    If I ever get a chance to grab that Gore fella by the neck...
    You mean it's all his fault? That, and the internet too? Poor guy can't catch a break with y'all ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
    Hi Pete, I am a God fearing man and the bible is very important and not to be taken lightly. But the "scientific BS" does have merit. Too bad some folks have manipulated it ( both the science and the bible) to their advantage by interpreting info to their own gain. Lew L
    Lew, that was insensitive of me. I'm sorry and will pull the post.

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    From what I read if accelerated climate change by man is real (and there is no doubt in my mind it is), current Spyder riders are too old be concerned anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Railwhale View Post
    The only problem with that is according to a buddy of mine who was stationed at Fort Richardson, the mosquitoes are large enough to fly away with our Spyders. I'm not a big fan of flying insects than can drain the blood out of me with one sip.
    RE: Mosquitos--In our area (Anchorage), the mosquitos start coming out in May. We refer to them as B-52's. They are big and slow moving. By mid June they are gone. If you wish to go North to the Tundra--watch out. They will fly off with your Spyder. I am just down the road from Ft. Richardson. Coming from MN and WI--we don't have a problem with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnorthern View Post
    From what I read if accelerated climate change by man is real (and there is no doubt in my mind it is), current Spyder riders are too old be concerned anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
    Well we do live under a variable star ( a G2V type star) on a planet with an elliptical orbit with an axis that does wobble a bit. When these effects come into play the temperature of the earth will seem to change. The stacking effect ( machining and engineering term) is real ( in my humble opinion) Over a LOOOOONG period of time the change tends to average out. Over our SHORRRRRRT lives it may seem to make a big difference.
    I accept that global warming is real because it's the consensus of the scientific community, give or take a couple of outliers, and because I trust people who are smarter than I am who have actually studied the issue and come to that conclusion ... people who have nothing to gain from drawing that conclusion, unlike people who have a financial stake in unlimited growth and things the way they are. It is the height of arrogance to deny facts just because they don't fit your opinion or your pocketbook, and I honestly can't take anyone seriously who thinks global warming is real because it's hot today or denies it because it's cold outside today. That's not how global phenomenons work. As Lew points out, there are many variables involved in this global phenomenon. The variables he mentions are at a solar-system scale and he's absolutely right about them, but one variable he didn't mention is the one within our control right here on Earth, and that's the composition of the atmosphere. It cannot be seriously denied that CO2 causes a greenhouse effect and the scientists say the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has dramatically increased over, say, the last 100 years. Certainly that does not prove that the CO2 is the sole cause of the global warming OR that mankind was the sole source of the CO2. OTOH, it seems pretty darned stupid to knowingly pumping more and more CO2 into the atmosphere in the midst of global warming, whether that CO2 is the sole cause of the warming or simply a minor contribution. Adding more CO2 is like putting fertilizer on the weeds in your garden; it can only make the problem worse. Moreover, while the temperature will undoubtedly average out over a LOOOOOONG period of time, that will be small comfort if the high temperatures make the Earth uninhabitable during the SHORRRRRRT lives of ourselves and our children and grandchildren. That's why the problem can't be ignored -- and why I support efforts to control CO2 emissions [although Chinese coal-burning power plants are such high emitters of CO2 that they should be the first ones to be controlled].

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    RE: Mosquitos--In our area (Anchorage), the mosquitos start coming out in May. We refer to them as B-52's. They are big and slow moving. By mid June they are gone. If you wish to go North to the Tundra--watch out. They will fly off with your Spyder. I am just down the road from Ft. Richardson. Coming from MN and WI--we don't have a problem with them.
    Good, a native that would know about mosquitos in Alaska.
    1. Is it normal for the coastal areas to not have that many mosquitos? I have had good luck in the Glacier Bay and Juneau area.
    2. Is there a time before freezing weather when they thin out?
    3. I was southwest of Fairbanks one time on a forest fire and though thick I was amazed at how well 40% DEET insect repellent worked. Is that true further north in the tundra?

    Thanks.

    P.S. I know the roads in Alaska are not suitable for a Spyder. This would be in an SUV.

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    Our New Years Day ride here in southern Ohio was canceled as well. It wasn't the cold that did it for me. All It takes is heated gear and a bit of stupid and I have lots of both. What killed it for me was the massive amount of salt and brine mix that ODOT decided to dump on the roads just before the huge 3 inch snowfall we recently were blessed with. They used very little last year so they must have needed to rotate the stock. I was in no mood to clean that stuff off of the Spyder in single digit temps and no way were any of the vintage rides going out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsimion View Post
    I accept that global warming is real because it's the consensus of the scientific community, give or take a couple of outliers, and because I trust people who are smarter than I am who have actually studied the issue and come to that conclusion ... people who have nothing to gain from drawing that conclusion, unlike people who have a financial stake in unlimited growth and things the way they are. It is the height of arrogance to deny facts just because they don't fit your opinion or your pocketbook, and I honestly can't take anyone seriously who thinks global warming is real because it's hot today or denies it because it's cold outside today. That's not how global phenomenons work. As Lew points out, there are many variables involved in this global phenomenon. The variables he mentions are at a solar-system scale and he's absolutely right about them, but one variable he didn't mention is the one within our control right here on Earth, and that's the composition of the atmosphere. It cannot be seriously denied that CO2 causes a greenhouse effect and the scientists say the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has dramatically increased over, say, the last 100 years. Certainly that does not prove that the CO2 is the sole cause of the global warming OR that mankind was the sole source of the CO2. OTOH, it seems pretty darned stupid to knowingly pumping more and more CO2 into the atmosphere in the midst of global warming, whether that CO2 is the sole cause of the warming or simply a minor contribution. Adding more CO2 is like putting fertilizer on the weeds in your garden; it can only make the problem worse. Moreover, while the temperature will undoubtedly average out over a LOOOOOONG period of time, that will be small comfort if the high temperatures make the Earth uninhabitable during the SHORRRRRRT lives of ourselves and our children and grandchildren. That's why the problem can't be ignored -- and why I support efforts to control CO2 emissions [although Chinese coal-burning power plants are such high emitters of CO2 that they should be the first ones to be controlled].
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